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Old 08-27-2007, 07:02 AM
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From TOV: steering and TR improve:

The 2008 Accord steering requires 2.56 turns lock-to-lock compared to 2.98 turns on the previous generation Accord. This quickness is more reminiscent of a sports car than a typical mainstream sedan.

Turning Radius
Both the 2008 Accord Sedan and Coupe feature a tighter turning radius for improved low-speed maneuverability. The turning radius is 18.9 ft. for the Sedan and 18.21 ft. for the Coupe. This is impressive considering that the 2008 Accord is a larger vehicle with a longer wheelbase.
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^ source: http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-ar...&page_number=4
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From TOV: steering and TR improve:


Turning Radius
Both the 2008 Accord Sedan and Coupe feature a tighter turning radius for improved low-speed maneuverability. The turning radius is 18.9 ft. for the Sedan and 18.21 ft. for the Coupe. This is impressive considering that the 2008 Accord is a larger vehicle with a longer wheelbase.
The 07 Accord has a turning circle of 36.1 ft so at 37.8ft (18.9x2) the 08 has an even worse turning circle.
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^ The 07 V-6 Coupe is listed at 38.9 and the 07 4dr v-6 is listed at 39.6 ft. Also the 08 wheel base has grown by +/- 2.3-3..so it is an improvement if they are talking the V-6..???

http://automobiles.honda.com/accord-...oup=dimensions

http://automobiles.honda.com/accord-...oup=dimensions

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Originally Posted by biker
The 07 Accord has a turning circle of 36.1 ft so at 37.8ft (18.9x2) the 08 has an even worse turning circle.
Where's Pi in that equation?
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Where's Pi in that equation?
diameter = radius x 2 ...

As a point of reference, the TSX has a turning diameter of 40 ft, and the Mazda3 34.1 ft.
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Originally Posted by biker
The 07 Accord has a turning circle of 36.1 ft so at 37.8ft (18.9x2) the 08 has an even worse turning circle.
Turning circle is not dependent on how quick the steering rack is. At least not as far as I know.
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Originally Posted by mrdeeno
because it's a honda, and they do everything better, even when they don't

thats great.
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Originally Posted by shrykhar
diameter = radius x 2 ...

As a point of reference, the TSX has a turning diameter of 40 ft, and the Mazda3 34.1 ft.
Math!!
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Originally Posted by shrykhar
diameter = radius x 2 ...

As a point of reference, the TSX has a turning diameter of 40 ft, and the Mazda3 34.1 ft.
Dude, I was kidding ... Hence the tomato.

I don't know if it's supposed to signify other people throwing it at you (I assume so) so when I make a bad joke or whatever, I put it there.

I think we need a Smiley FAQ!
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Dude, I was kidding ... Hence the tomato.

I don't know if it's supposed to signify other people throwing it at you (I assume so) so when I make a bad joke or whatever, I put it there.

I think we need a Smiley FAQ!
Oh ... I always thought the tomato was being thrown at the other person. Oops ...

The new Accord sounds great on paper, but I think it's awkwardly proportioned. I have this personal theory that Honda (and Toyota and Nissan and VW) save their better designs and designers for their luxury brands, where people actually care about that sort of thing.
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Originally Posted by Texas
^ The 07 V-6 Coupe is listed at 38.9 and the 07 4dr v-6 is listed at 39.6 ft. Also the 08 wheel base has grown by +/- 2.3-3..so it is an improvement if they are talking the V-6..???

http://automobiles.honda.com/accord-...oup=dimensions

http://automobiles.honda.com/accord-...oup=dimensions
That would make sense - I was looking at the 07 4cyl LX turning diameter, not the V6.

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^ Yep biker, and I was looking @ the 6 and not the 4 so you helped me out there.....I was also trying to inject some positive in what seems to be a lot of negs...Like we all say, driving one and the seat of our pants will tell us if we like or dislike...
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The only feature that I do not like with the 8G's interior is the steering wheel spokes. 07 > 08 there, IMHO.
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^^ Yup, that steering wheel is very odd looking.
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Is it just me, or has the overall appeal of the Accord has gone down hill since the 5th Gen car? In terms of looks, I still say the 5th Gen is the best looking. I had a 6th Gen Accord and it was OK. Honda screwed up the 7th Gen rear and fixed at the MMC, but it was still just an OK car. Now this 8th Gen car is just, I don't know, just not that good looking. Maybe it will be like the 5 series and will take a while for it to grow on people. And what's with making it the size of a boat - who asked for that?
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I didn't like the 5G design at all. The 6G design is remain very very classy in either 4 door or 2 door format.

This 8G design is weird. Long front overhang with the exaggerated headlights create bad front and side profile. Though it might grows on me later......
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However, even though the interior has gotten more busy, I still like it more than the original BMW design that it was so clearly modeled after.
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Wow, that interior is a real disaster! I mean, aesthetically it looks pretty good, but look at the mass of buttons strewn across the center stack! There doesn't seem to be any cohesive element to them. Try figuring out what does what at a glance....
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Lot of J tags in the first lot

2008 Vins are now showing up on some of the dealerships website and boy there are plenty of them starting with JH***.
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That seems to be the pattern - they switch the factory in Japan first, get them on the boat, while they work on switching the US factory.

So, where's the prices?
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I would scoop up the "J" series VINs over the "1" series VINs even though they are the first batch. Call me a manufacturing plant whore ...

But for importation needs, I would be forced to take the "1" series VIN to save the 6.1% importation tax to bring one into Canada ...
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Dang the Japanese Honda workers are working a lot of OT because they're making the new USDM Accords sedans, not coupes right? I think the coupe has always been manufactured in Ohio. In Japan they are still building the RL/Legend and the TSX/Euro Accord.
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For these cars to be here, the factory in Japan must have switched way back in June. Is the Inspire made in the same factory as the RL/TSX?
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08 Accord prices on TOV http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=707430
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$30,500 for a fully loaded coupe?

They can keep it.
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but i'm sure you'll be able to negotiate off that $30,500.

unless you guys think they'll be a backorder like the altima coupes. i heard there's a waiting list until january for those things.

saw some more pics of the new accords in some car magazines during lunch. the coupe looks really sharp.

but the sedan...ehh. i read it's going to be longer and wider than the camry, which is a big looking car to me. i didn't realize the accords were going to be that big. i really don't like the rear of the new accords.
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Top of the line Accords have always been close to the $30k mark since they started offering navigation systems. The EX-L V6 w/nav sedan is only $800 more than 2007 model. Only difference is they're not going to be selling at invoice in the next few months.
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$30,500 for a fully loaded coupe?

They can keep it.
Seriously. $30k for an Accord is steep IMO, even if you negotiate it down. Car prices in general seem to have gone up too much in the past 10 years or so. I guess that isn't so different from everything else in the world, but it's not like salaries go up an equal amount to level it out.
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First Drive: 2008 Honda Accord

Halifax, Nova Scotia - It doesn't seem long ago that Honda introduced an all-new 2003 Accord. That car - in sedan and coupe versions - offered a pair of super-smooth engines with excellent fuel economy, and a progressive suite of standard safety features in a package that was functional and modern, but not particularly exciting (the six-speed manual coupe was an exception).

It sold like hotcakes.

Since then, the bar for the midsize car segment has been raised considerably. Toyota and Nissan have excellent new products in their Camry and Altima, and the Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu and Dodge Avenger lengthen the shopping list with appealing alternatives. Competition is heating up.

Is the new Accord more of the same from Honda? Yes and no. Yes, Honda builds on Accord strengths that include advanced engines, comprehensive safety features and practicality. And no, Honda is looking to add some passion to the recipe, with sharper lines and a more eye-catching presence.

The most obvious difference is that the fully redesigned 2008 Accord Sedan is bigger in all key interior and exterior dimensions in comparison with its predecessor. Specifically, the 2008 Accord offers a significant increase in cabin and cargo space by extending the wheelbase by 60 millimetres, width by 26 mm and overall length by 76 mm.

The Accord Coupe is also longer, wider and slightly taller than the outgoing model, with passenger volume increasing considerably. And for the first time, the Accord Coupe shares no visible exterior body panels, lights, glass, grille or bumpers with the Accord Sedan (only the door mirrors and door handles are common), making the Accord Coupe virtually a stand-alone model in the Honda line-up.

With the larger dimensions comes new styling that Honda describes as "emotional" and "dynamic". Perhaps sensitive to criticism that their previous generation of cars lacked visual appeal, the company has made obvious efforts to add some pizzazz to the Accord. Certainly this has worked with the Civic, which is now one of the most striking compact car designs on the road, and it works with the new Accord as well.

Starting at the front, the hoodline is 51 mm taller than the outgoing model's, with contours that intentionally recall the Honda S2000 sports car. Overall, the Accord is designed to be more substantial, more expressive, and more impressive.

Standard wheels are 16-inch steel, with 17-inch aluminum wheels optional on the Sedan. The Coupe arrives with standard 17-inch aluminum wheels, and 18-inch aluminum wheels on the Coupe V6/manual.

Speaking of engines, there is now a choice of four powerplants for the Accord - or more accurately, two versions of the four-cylinder inline (I4) and two versions of the V6. The Accord Hybrid model has been discontinued. For 2008, the engine you receive depends on the trim level, which follows familiar Accord designations of LX, EX, EX-L (Leather) for I4 Sedans, and EX, EX-L for V6 Sedans. Four cylinder Coupes can be purchased in EX, EX-L trim, and if you specify a V6, you get the EX-L model.

Of the four engine options, the base version is a 2.4-litre i-VTEC (intelligent variable valve timing) making 177 horsepower and 161 pounds-feet of torque. This engine is only available with the LX Sedan, and is basically the same engine found in the four-cylinder 2007 Accord (it's also found in the current Honda CR-V). This is an entirely satisfactory engine - fuel efficient, clean and quiet - now delivering a six-percent increase in horsepower and a one-percent increase in torque. Fuel consumption (regular grade) is 9.9/6.5 L/100km, city/highway; a slight improvement over the 2007 version.

The EX and EX-L models are equipped with the same 2.4-L engine, but it's tuned to generate 190 hp and 162 lb.-ft. torque, benefiting from a high-flow muffler and reprogrammed Powertrain Control Module (PCM). This is the most powerful four-cylinder engine ever offered in a North American Accord, but it is also designed to run on regular grade fuel.

With a five-speed automatic transmission, it delivers estimated City/Highway fuel economy of 9.9/6.5 L/100 km (the same as the LX model with the less-powerful engine). A five-speed manual transmission is available with all I4 models, but not with the V6.

Replacing the previous 244-hp 3.0-litre V6 is a new 3.5-litre V6 engine with 268-hp and 248 lb.-ft. torque. This engine features a new generation of Honda's Variable Cylinder Management (VCM) variable displacement technology. Depending on driving conditions, the engine will operate on three, four or all six cylinders to optimize fuel economy and power as required (your only indication that this is happening is a green "Eco" light that flashed in the instrument panel).

In order to enhance low and midrange performance for the sportier Accord EX-L V6 Coupe with six-speed manual transmission, it uses a variation of the Accord V6 that doesn't feature VCM. It also features a stiffer suspension, rorty exhaust note and optional 18-inch aluminum wheels.

All Accord sedans and coupes are well-equipped. Standard equipment includes side-curtain airbags, active head restraints, vehicle stability control and traction control, air conditioning, power windows, locks and outside mirrors, and four-wheel anti-lock disc brakes.

The EX Sedan and Coupe ride on 17-inch aluminum wheels, have a power driver's seat, active noise control, and a power moonroof and chrome exhaust finisher. The EX-L completes the package with leather interior and automatic headlights, and can be purchased with a Navigation package that includes XM satellite radio and Bluetooth communication interface.

Interior space in both cars is appreciably larger, supplying more legroom and more shoulder room. The dashboard, controls and centre stack are evolutions of the previous design, having a more angular, expensive and technical look and feel. That can be said of the whole car, which seems entirely more substantial and advanced. The seats offer excellent support and comfort; trunk space is generous.

Power is formidable, too, especially with the V6. That engine has surprising reserves, and pulls strongly and evenly up to its redline. The I4 will be sufficient for most drivers and is almost as smooth as the V6 at highway speeds.

Performance from the six-speed manual Coupe is markedly sportier; shifting is a delight, with power and handling to match. Rear seating is comfortable, with somewhat restricted headroom (but it's certainly enough space for two adults).

In my view, Honda's design team has successfully achieved their objectives of making the Accord more dynamic and expressive. The Accord Sedan certainly has something of the Acura TL in its appearance, and the Accord Coupe looks powerful and agile (now you can even get one in bright red, or black with beige interior, a striking combination missing from the previous generation).

It's fascinating to see how Accords have evolved over time. First offered in Canada in 1976, and now in its eighth generation, the current version is a new benchmark for vehicles of this type. Smooth, powerful, spacious, tight, precise and built to exacting standards, you'll feel like you've arrived in more ways than one when you take the wheel of this splendid car.

At a glance: 2008 Honda Accord

* Price: $25,000-$38,000 Sedan; $27,000-$39,000 Coupe (exact pricing to be announced).
* Available: Sedan: September 21, 2007; Coupe: October 1, 2007
* Notable: Build quality, sophisticated design and technology, road presence, quietness, power.
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Top of the line Accords have always been close to the $30k mark since they started offering navigation systems. The EX-L V6 w/nav sedan is only $800 more than 2007 model. Only difference is they're not going to be selling at invoice in the next few months.

yeah the pricing hasnt changed much the past few generations. i remember my old 02 accord v6 coupe msrp'd at $28k and no navi available then
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i wonder what acura's thinking?

the accord, i believe, isn't that much smaller than the RL, and it's only, what, 17hp less than the RL.
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I don't see why people are flippin' out like ninjas about a $30k Accord.

The 2003 EX V6 was $30k. IMO they have really held prices in check considering the devaluation of the dollar and the fact that the 2008 is a much better car.
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Originally Posted by JediMindTricks
i wonder what acura's thinking?

the accord, i believe, isn't that much smaller than the RL, and it's only, what, 17hp less than the RL.
I wouldn't shop an Accord and an RL.

Then again the RL would have to be pretty exceptional to buy in the first place with 300hp hauling that car around.
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dad works on the line that makes the 4 cylinder Accord motors in Anna,OH.
as of yesterday Marysvile was about 2500 units behind Anna,OH. which is about a weeks(maybe 4 days if everything runs smooth) production for Marysville.(and that's 2 shifts)
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So the cheapest Accord will be $21K - that's a huge jump from the $17K DX models available for 07.
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Originally Posted by stright-(paint)balling
dad works on the line that makes the 4 cylinder Accord motors in Anna,OH.
as of yesterday Marysvile was about 2500 units behind Anna,OH. which is about a weeks(maybe 4 days if everything runs smooth) production for Marysville.(and that's 2 shifts)
what's with the red rep points?
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what's with the red rep points?
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So the cheapest Accord will be $21K - that's a huge jump from the $17K DX models available for 07.
theres no more DX/value edition model. when the 4th gen was released back in 1990 my parents bought an LX for $18k. these new models have much more features standard

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