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Old 12-18-2007, 11:58 AM
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Only the TSX made its debut at Detroit, in January.
I hope its at Detroit!
Old 12-21-2007, 12:16 PM
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so who else called it? I remember betting on them putting the RDX motor in and using the AWD platform, and i hope this is true because that is going to be one nice car.

Plus imagine Realtime racing getting these badboys, they would be unstoppable..even more so.
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Plus imagine Realtime racing getting these badboys, they would be unstoppable..even more so.
Unfortunately not in the past 2007 season. The Mazda 6's had the edge over the TSX's and RSX's.
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Unfortunately not in the past 2007 season. The Mazda 6's had the edge over the TSX's and RSX's.
point made. However are the mazdaspeed6's AWD? I know that is why sometimes the Audi's get the jump on RTR.?
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point made. However are the mazdaspeed6's AWD? I know that is why sometimes the Audi's get the jump on RTR.?
No, they are all FWD like the Acura's. But interesting enough, the top Mazda team (Tripoint Motorsport) is using 2.3L Inline-4 engines built by Comptech USA.
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Well not pictures of the next gen tsx but the first picture revealed of the new accord wagon in japan. I know its not much but its still something











not sure how I feel about the heavy civic influence.

http://www.dmi.com.ua/press-centre/autonews?item=519
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Originally Posted by The Dougler
I hope its at Detroit!
The NAIAS @ Detroit is happening this week... Looks like Acura isn't going to unveil anything...

Seems weird. If they are going to release the redesigned TSX this spring, you would think we'd see something by now... Maybe there's been a delay ??
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Better then nothing! Thanks for posting. I'm curious about the direction of the Acura grill going forward, but of course, that small section of grill poking out in the first picture won't be the same on the TSX anyway.
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I hate those door handles also seen on the North American Accord.
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
The NAIAS @ Detroit is happening this week... Looks like Acura isn't going to unveil anything...

Seems weird. If they are going to release the redesigned TSX this spring, you would think we'd see something by now... Maybe there's been a delay ??

I bet they made some design changes.
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It's funny how the new NA Accord's and Civics don't have much resemblence, but the JDM Accord and Civics share a bigger/smaller brother look, which makes the TSX closer in resemblence to the Civic than the NA Accord is to Civic.
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Originally Posted by supraken
It's funny how the new NA Accord's and Civics don't have much resemblence, but the JDM Accord and Civics share a bigger/smaller brother look, which makes the TSX closer in resemblence to the Civic than the NA Accord is to Civic.
Its cause its always been that the JDM civic and JDM accord share a resemblance. Since the US accord is the JDM inspire iit has never really shared any similarities.
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i don't know if merc came up with it first, but honda did a great job of stealing the instrument cluster needle design from them.
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Nothing to get excited about here.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Nothing to get excited about here.
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
The NAIAS @ Detroit is happening this week... Looks like Acura isn't going to unveil anything...

Seems weird. If they are going to release the redesigned TSX this spring, you would think we'd see something by now... Maybe there's been a delay ??
NYAS perhaps. Infiniti did the G37 there.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Nothing to get excited about here.

There are a lot more screen caps from a video of the Accord Tourer posted at TOV. And judging by those I have to agree.

The styling is just plain boring.
Old 01-23-2008, 07:36 PM
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Geez what a disappointment. It looks almost the same from the front, and the rear screams Hyundai Sonata with a slight kick up in the far corners of the taillights.
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I feel like we won't see anything like the NSX and S2k anytime soon from Honda. The last nice Acura to come out was the TL in 04.
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Hot damn those gauges are pimp.
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Geez what a disappointment. It looks almost the same from the front, and the rear screams Hyundai Sonata with a slight kick up in the far corners of the taillights.
The car is a economy brand Honda Accord after all. It is never intended to be designed from the ground up as an Acura TSX. So I'm not surprise the rear has the Sonata lines. In fact, the Sonata has been copying the Accord look for years. Korean cars have no characters. They copy everyone else, such as RX300, E-class, Toureg, ...
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Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
The car is a economy brand Honda Accord after all. It is never intended to be designed from the ground up as an Acura TSX. So I'm not surprise the rear has the Sonata lines. In fact, the Sonata has been copying the Accord look for years. Korean cars have no characters. They copy everyone else, such as RX300, E-class, Toureg, ...
And accord doesn't copy from others? It seems like everyone car company copy from others, for example, look the new gauges of Accord Tourer, its resembles Mercedes gauges. How about the previous accord sedan and coupe rear? It resembled Mercedes....

Why do you generalize and stereotype that Korean cars doesn't have characters? I think Tiburon, Santa Fe, and XG has their own style. I bet your trying real hard to think how they resemble other cars?

People gotta stop hating and degrading Hyundai just because of their past history. Narrow minded ignorant people just wont accept that they are currently coming out with nice simple looking cars...
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these days, who doesn't take cues from other automakers? even now, it seems cars are taking cues from the bangle-designed bmw's.

if it's successful, people will follow and copy.

but from the looks of the genesis sedan and coupe, they aren't simple looking cars. nor do they lack character.
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Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
The car is a economy brand Honda Accord after all. It is never intended to be designed from the ground up as an Acura TSX. So I'm not surprise the rear has the Sonata lines. In fact, the Sonata has been copying the Accord look for years. Korean cars have no characters. They copy everyone else, such as RX300, E-class, Toureg, ...
Look at the new Accord and look at the current 5 series. Tell me that they don't share similar styling cues. Does Honda lack character then?

The smartest thing that Hyundai has done is to revamp their design team; I mean think back to the 90's Hyundai Lineup... they were absolutely hideous. And if it means having to take a more main stream approach to designing their vehicles, then so be it; they're current line up looks light years ahead of the line up from 5-8 years ago.

But back let me get back on point since this is a topic on the TSX/Euro Accord.

IMO, I think Honda and Toyota vehicles "lack character;" not because their styling, but because of the "economical auto maker" direction they are taking.

This Euro Accord/TSX further makes me believe that Honda/Acura lacks character; I mean sure, it looks "OK," but without a NA 6 Cylinder available (w/RWD... althoug I'll settle for AWD) Honda/Acura simply isn't following through as a serious competitor in the "luxury" line up.

Simply, I am disappointed. The styling isn't revolutionary, and personally, although I think the RDX drive train is an improvement over the TSX, a Normally aspirated V6 would have been better imo. (Not to mention.. .GASP... RWD)

Korean Car Companies (And I assume you mean primarily mean Hyundai) lack character? Obviously you haven't been following the Genesis.
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Originally Posted by JediMindTricks
these days, who doesn't take cues from other automakers? even now, it seems cars are taking cues from the bangle-designed bmw's.

if it's successful, people will follow and copy.

but from the looks of the genesis sedan and coupe, they aren't simple looking cars. nor do they lack character.
Exactly. It's not only the car industry either. We wear similar styled cloths, hair, etc. We live in houses that have similar "popular" floor plans and drive cars that look basically the same.

Don't blame the car manufacturers. They're not copying. They're providing the styles and trends that people want right now. Of course the cars all have similar styling. 20 years from now all the cars will have very different styling. But whatever that style is, rest assured they'll all share it.
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Hyundai Sonata rear = old Honda Accord
Hyundai Azera front = old Toyota Camry
Hyundai Sante Fe = VW Touareg
Hyundai Genesis = (if straighten the horizontal grill trims exactly = MB's signature front look)

Kia Amanti front = MB E-class (sloping 4 rounded headlights is a dead ringer)
Kia Sorento = Lexus RX300
Kia Spectra front = Toyota Corolla

Kia is a subsidiary of Hyundai.

I can't recall any other car maker, other than Hyundai/Kia, that has so many US vehicle models "resembling" models from other makers. Borrowing styling cues from successful competitors is perfectly acceptable, but cookie-cutter-like copying (such as the Sante Fe, the Sorento, the Amanti and Genesis fronts) is not considered to be good taste. Why copy if a car company is confident with the works generated from its internal styling design team. Why not be adventurous and come up with unique styling cues exclusive to its vehicle lineups. This is what I called character.

I have yet to see a reputable car maker, other than Hyundai/Kia (apart from those in China - they even build Ferrari knock-offs there), that dares to use the "sloping unequal-size 4 rounded headlights" which is well-known to be the exclusive signature MB E-class look.

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Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
Hyundai Sonata rear = old Honda Accord
Hyundai Azera front = old Toyota Camry
Hyundai Sante Fe = VW Touareg
Hyundai Genesis = (if straighten the horizontal grill trims exactly = MB's signature front look)

Kia Amanti front = MB E-class (sloping 4 rounded headlights is a dead ringer)
Kia Sorento = Lexus RX300
Kia Spectra front = Toyota Corolla

Kia is a subsidiary of Hyundai.

I can't recall any other car maker, other than Hyundai/Kia, that has so many US vehicle models "resembling" models from other makers. Borrowing styling cues from successful competitors is perfectly acceptable, but cookie-cutter-like copying (such as the Sante Fe, the Sorento, the Amanti and Genesis fronts) is not considered to be good taste. Why copy if a car company is confident with the works generated from its internal styling design team. Why not be adventurous and come up with unique styling cues exclusive to its vehicle lineups. This is what I called character.

I have yet to see a reputable car maker, other than Hyundai/Kia (apart from those in China - they even build Ferrari knock-offs there), that dares to use the "sloping unequal-size 4 rounded headlights" which is well-known to be the exclusive signature MB E-class look.
Relax. They're just cars.
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Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
Hyundai Sonata rear = old Honda Accord
Not quite.

Hyundai Sonata rear = old Honda Accord, but better executed. Much better executed.
New Euro Accord = Hyundai Sonata rear, slight kick in far corners. And LEDs?
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Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
Hyundai Sonata rear = old Honda Accord
Hyundai Azera front = old Toyota Camry
Hyundai Sante Fe = VW Touareg
Hyundai Genesis = (if straighten the horizontal grill trims exactly = MB's signature front look)

Kia Amanti front = MB E-class (sloping 4 rounded headlights is a dead ringer)
Kia Sorento = Lexus RX300
Kia Spectra front = Toyota Corolla

Kia is a subsidiary of Hyundai.

I can't recall any other car maker, other than Hyundai/Kia, that has so many US vehicle models "resembling" models from other makers. Borrowing styling cues from successful competitors is perfectly acceptable, but cookie-cutter-like copying (such as the Sante Fe, the Sorento, the Amanti and Genesis fronts) is not considered to be good taste. Why copy if a car company is confident with the works generated from its internal styling design team. Why not be adventurous and come up with unique styling cues exclusive to its vehicle lineups. This is what I called character.

I have yet to see a reputable car maker, other than Hyundai/Kia (apart from those in China - they even build Ferrari knock-offs there), that dares to use the "sloping unequal-size 4 rounded headlights" which is well-known to be the exclusive signature MB E-class look.
personally, i see no problem with hyundai, kia, or other carmakers taking design cues into their own models.

in the case with hyundai, i think it benefits them. they're taking designs and making them better looking. it's a conservative strategy, but it's helping them slowly attract more and more buyers. the first thing that the majority of car buyers are going to look for is the design. and hyundai's being successful with taking already proven designs and making them look better.

i would imagine or hope that in the future, once hyundai has established a much-better reputation, they will be more willing to take on riskier designs and a more aggressive strategy.

but if you can't see cars and models resembling each other everywhere, then you're not looking hard enough or you're just hating on hyundai.
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THOSE GAUGES ARE PIMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but I give credit where credit is due, and they copied Mercedes on that, but it's for the sake of being pimp, so I don't mind. BTW, they made it better looking than Mercedes, I love the aluminum surrounding.



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^ I kinda like the Mercedes gauges more. The chrome rings look more high end than the aluminum.
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From the pictures posted it looks like they gave the lights a couple more corners and called it day. But hopefully I'm wrong because there would be no point in a full camo get up for that.
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TOV has spyshots of what they believe is the 2009 TSX:

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I can't directly link the pictures, so you'll need to click on the link above.
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There may be hope for this car yet.

Much much better than they Euro Accord we saw.

Looks too small to be a TL.
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That's IT! Thanks for the photo. No question in my mind what we are looking at.
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Last I heard, Edumunds said it would be at the Chicago show?? We will know if correct in 24...I doubt it myself?
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I suppose anything could happen but I'm with you Tex. I doubt it. First, they only officially announced that the RL would be displayed. Second, why would they do a "surprise" display of the TSX at the same show and steal thunder away from the RL. Sounds stupid. But then again, corporations do stupid things quite often. I know Acura does for sure.
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so far, so good.
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Definitely a TSX...it'll have to grow on me, though. It's mainly the grille, which I know is brand-wide; it was inevitable.


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