larchmont

I like that better!

(1) Sooner

(2) Only conflicts with 1st round of baseball playoffs, not World Series

Zoot

no, that's a TL

gavriil

Acura still insisting being blant. I dont get it.

soopa

its so nice seeing my website as the only source for TL photos

EmuMessenger

I think that is what the new Accord coupe six speed does.

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soopa and his evil empire :evil:













lol

Neech

So how do the phone controls work (steering wheel). Does it work with any Cell provider, do you need a special phone, etc??

ProZach

Are you saying that you prefer the name 3.5RL to Legend . The Legend had character, and I think killing the name brought about a total loss of recognition. Though I always hated how car companies put the engine displacement in their names, it is irritating.

Zapata

lol BMW gets reemed for the bangle designs and honda gets reemed for it's blandness

Tom2

Not sure how it works, but I've been wondering how long it would be before cars came out with built-in cellphones (and I'm not talking about that OnStar crap) that would be totally hands-free and sent thru the stereo system speakers.

Escpeically living in New York (it's illegal to drive while talking on the phone, unless it's hands-free), I'd like to see it happen soon....

Speed_Racer

The new TL is supposed to come with Bluetooth so you can use your Bluetooth phone handsfree in the car. Pretty slick. . .

planman

In the luxury sedan market, even if you narrow it to the luxury SPORT sedan market, more people will run away from a 300 HP V6 offering than will be drawn to it. Your average suburbanite is just scared of a car with that much power...whether they'll admit it or not.

For enthusiasts like us who just can't get enough ponies...be patient and repeat after me ...Type S...it will come.

Tom2

Wow, my fingers spazzed out on that one!

My typing skillz are pretty outrageous now...

vinarnold

i just put a deposit on a 2004 tl monday night they said i won't get the car until late november

BuddySol

I would think...with the current state of the RL. It's a good thing the Legend name isn't really tarnished, ah?

ProZach

*heh* agreed :P

Myrddin157

ok.. posted in the sticky thread but no one seemed to notice (or it's not that important)

Popular Mechanics in the latest issue says 2004 TL will be:
FWD 3.5L 280hp V6

EmuMessenger

Interesting, please post a scan of the article.

SPUDMTN

Give me a break...the Legend name is dead and it will be dead over here for quite some time (if it ever even does come back). If the RL was named the Legend I'm sure we'd here complaints about how the car isn't befitting of the Legend name. Is the "Legend" name alone going to give a car more character? Didn't think so.

I'll say it again--3.5 RL gave the car BRAND recognition. It's actually quite a good strategy. Brand recognition is far more important than model recognition.


SPUDMTN

Myrddin157

Here's the scan.. sorry about the poor quality... only had a digicam to do it.

Raheel

He said we are pretty sure, MAN it would be nice to have a 3.5 L pushing 280 HP, That would kick Nissan's Ass with its VQ Engine

need4spd_RENAMED

Posted from a differnt thread, but here it goes again:
I picked up a copy of the September 2003 Automobile Magazine, in it had an article on the "2004's FAB 50" (aka the 50 hottest new cars of 2004). On page 88, it states that for the 2004 TL, "is slightly shorter and wider than its predecessor."

This article also states that "Engines essentially are carried over with a few tweaks; the uplevel Type-S again will be powered by a 260-horsepower 3.2-liter V-6."

OK, if these bozos at Automobile don’t know there is no “type-S” I am not sure that any of their info can be trusted.

So it just goes to show (along witht he pop mechanics article), that they are all guessing at this point.

Also, the 2004 RSX pamphlete shows 270HP (this would be the "official" number).

need4spd_RENAMED

Posted from a differnt thread, but here it goes again:
I picked up a copy of the September 2003 Automobile Magazine, in it had an article on the "2004's FAB 50" (aka the 50 hottest new cars of 2004). On page 88, it states that for the 2004 TL, "is slightly shorter and wider than its predecessor."

This article also states that "Engines essentially are carried over with a few tweaks; the uplevel Type-S again will be powered by a 260-horsepower 3.2-liter V-6."

OK, if these bozos at Automobile don’t know there is no “type-S” I am not sure that any of their info can be trusted.

So it just goes to show (along witht he pop mechanics article), that they are all guessing at this point.

Also, the 2004 RSX pamphlete shows 270HP (this would be the "official" number).

We just have to wait for the Sept 1st press embargo deadline

need4spd_RENAMED

The other thing we can hope is that the open 5 spoke wheels are actually the HPT package that we have all lusted after (with 18" wheels)! This is what is shown in PM and the car connection shots.

All the shots in Seattle showed solid spokes

Syrus

I wanted to toss in my 2 cents. The new TL is VERY VERY VERY quick. I had a first hand experiance racing it thru the mountains in Colorado in the beginning of June.

My wife and I were drivng cross country from Boston, MA to Phoenix, AZ and I noticed a couple cars ahead of us covered in black and grey tape. I asked my wife to speed up and pass them so we could take a look.

As we were passing the lead car I saw a Acura logo peeking thru the tape on the front. I grabbed for my camera and began taking pictuers. When the driver, of what I now have learned is the new TL, saw me he up shifted and literally dissappeared! We were doing about 110 in our Element at the time.

He was being followed by 3 cars, one I couldn't recognize, but it was slow and could barely keep up with the Honda Pilot and MDX that tired to catch up with the TL. The Pilot had no tape covering it and the MDX had dual mufflers and was covered in tape. Both were covered in antennas and filled with engineers holding laptops. All 4 cars had sequentially numbered plates from ohio that had the words "Honda R & D" at the bottom.

Sorry for the blury pics, I had a shitty camera at the time and had to wait 3 seconds between pics. :-(


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VtecMW

Great shots man. You were doinf 110 in a Honda Element? Wow! I didn't know they go that fast.

Hmm, sounds like an MDX Type-S is on its way!

Is it me, or does this angle seem to resemble the rear quarter shape of the 94-97 Accord?



Wait a min. This car has no character line runnning along the side of it.

EmuMessenger

Also, look how far the right exhaust pipe seems to protrude.

EmuMessenger

It is funny that every article says "their" spies got the photos, but every magazine has the same pictures.

RJC RSX

possibly an amber turn signal?

teo409

Judging from no character line and the exhaust pipe, could it be that they were testing not the TL but a TSX Type S? And that the MDX is the 04 update? Things that make you go hmm...

EmuMessenger

Good call, because the TL has standard XM radio and there was not a roof antenna on that car.

VtecMW

This is more than likely a TL prototype. And, being that this car was photographed in June, I'm sure a lot of production elements were left off, especially considering the fact that the only thing we could draw from until recently was the '04 TL Concept.

So, Acura had probably had some room to play around with some things in order to decide what would make it into production and what wouldn't.

It still looks very much like a '94-'95 Accord in the rear.

EmuMessenger

Fair enough. I guess I am starved for new data!

PokeyD16Z

The thing I can't get is when all of you saw these "open spoke" wheels. They've always been solid from what I can see..

acuraman_RENAMED

It looks like a TSX around the rear quarter panel but the door handles seem to be too low!! Maybe it's the FP (Factory Performance) TSX that Justin has been hinting about or better yet...a TSX Type-S

JeffPhx

No, I think Justin said awhile ago that the MDX will have dual exhaust for 04. I don't think we will see a Type S MDX. This might explain the 5HP jump too.

Can anyone scan the small photo of the MDX in the 04 RSX brochure? I want to see the slight front updates and new wheels.

provench

Spy shot



For comparison ... hmmmmm



My guess is that is a TL ....

Syrus

When I first saw it thats exactly what I thought... even the front end looks like the old Accord. But with all that tape, they could have added styrofoam panels to make it seem bigger etc. And it couldn't keep up with the MDX or the Pilot at all, he tired but even we outran him in the element. Which by the way, the element tops out at 115mph on the stock tires, I learned that the hard way racing a Lancer EVO VIII :-p

need4spd_RENAMED

Dont forget the indent on the side was covered in tape on all the spy shots, that is why it is missing.

need4spd_RENAMED

From the article below in thecarconnection.com it says:

"The overall shape is the same as the TL Concept, but it looks even better in real life — especially the racy open-spoke wheels of the production TL, which outshine the concept car’s wheels"

http://www.thecarconnection.com/inde...56,178&sid=178

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