Acura: TLX News
#8162
Suzuka Master
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You, sir, sound like a complete buffoon. You're really comparing cars from 2 different generations (7years difference) in equivalence? Do you not know how fast things change even in the span of 1 year?
It's not even worth it to try and make you understand how idiotic you sound.
It's not even worth it to try and make you understand how idiotic you sound.
for 35k you get 260 hp V6 in 3G.
for 35k you get 208hp I4 in TLX.
So exactly what kind of values are you talking about?
Against 3G, it has less power but cost the same
Against competitors, it is likely to be cheaper but it also has less.
Value = same or better product at the cheaper price (Hyundai)
If you offer less everything for cheaper price, that is just CHEAPER, not value. (Acura)
for 35k you get 208hp I4 in TLX.
So exactly what kind of values are you talking about?
Against 3G, it has less power but cost the same
Against competitors, it is likely to be cheaper but it also has less.
Value = same or better product at the cheaper price (Hyundai)
If you offer less everything for cheaper price, that is just CHEAPER, not value. (Acura)
#8163
Azine Jabroni
You, sir, sound like a complete buffoon. You're really comparing cars from 2 different generations (7years difference) in equivalence? Do you not know how fast things change even in the span of 1 year?
It's not even worth it to try and make you understand how idiotic you sound.
It's not even worth it to try and make you understand how idiotic you sound.
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#8166
Having owned 3 TSXs, I can honestly say I am not the least bit amused by the numbers. I realize that the I4 TLX will be a TSX replacement, but that doesn't mean they had to be so stingy with the performance increase. Considering that the current TSX has had the same 201-hp rating since its introduction as a 2009 model, I hardly think a 5-7% power increase is asking for too much.
2004 - 200 HP
2006 - 205 HP
2009 - 201 HP
2015 - 206 HP
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#8167
Let's not forget the TLX will utilize an 8 speed DCT.
#8168
For many (most?) potential buyers, I'd say the numbers on paper matter a lot, especially when they'll be comparing it against others makes/models. They'll equate what they see on paper to performance even though that's not accurate.
That's how people tend to shop.... by comparing what's on paper. Most potential buyers don't pull out their copy of Car and Driver or Motortrend to see how the car performs in real life vs other makes/models.
That's how people tend to shop.... by comparing what's on paper. Most potential buyers don't pull out their copy of Car and Driver or Motortrend to see how the car performs in real life vs other makes/models.
#8169
Suzuka Master
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For many (most?) potential buyers, I'd say the numbers on paper matter a lot, especially when they'll be comparing it against others makes/models. They'll equate what they see on paper to performance even though that's not accurate.
That's how people tend to shop.... by comparing what's on paper. Most potential buyers don't pull out their copy of Car and Driver or Motortrend to see how the car performs in real life vs other makes/models.
That's how people tend to shop.... by comparing what's on paper. Most potential buyers don't pull out their copy of Car and Driver or Motortrend to see how the car performs in real life vs other makes/models.
#8170
The sizzle in the Steak
It seems the apologists are ignoring the "numbers" on the competitions cars in the same class as the TLX.
#8172
1G TSX was designed for 215 size tire. 2G TSX for 225. so there is no shrinkage of width of tire to get better fuel economic.
I expect TLX 4cylinder to be closer to 2 second faster than 1G TSX at 0-60. and atleast 5 second difference at 0-120mph.
TLX is designed for ground up for SH-AWD. that system will be very effective even with all season skinny tire setup. not need 275 size tire.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._awd_update_1/
The biggest difference in performance was in our figure eight testing. The RDX ran the course in 27.8 seconds with a max lateral acceleration of 0.77 g (avg), while the bigger and heavier MDX ran the course in 26.5 seconds with a max lat of 0.85 g (avg). A difference of more than a second is a lifetime on a track, especially one as short as our figure eight course. It seems the SH-AWD system really does make a significant difference
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With the recent (and good) changes in Acura's leadership, expect to see some Type S models, particularly the TLX. More power, turbo and a possible manual option as well!
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#8180
The sizzle in the Steak
Acura has a ton of work to do to change their track record.
Believe it when you see it, when it comes to Acura.
I'm hoping the current TLX is more of the "past" Acura, than the Future "changed" Acura.
The NA 4 cyl, mixed with the not best in class numbers for the old 3.5 V6 are not encouraging.
Let's hope in a few more years (MMC) they make a significant change.
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Peeps been hoping, praying, claiming, stating that for years.
Acura has a ton of work to do to change their track record.
Believe it when you see it, when it comes to Acura.
I'm hoping the current TLX is more of the "past" Acura, than the Future "changed" Acura.
The NA 4 cyl, mixed with the not best in class numbers for the old 3.5 V6 are not encouraging.
Let's hope in a few more years (MMC) they make a significant change.
Acura has a ton of work to do to change their track record.
Believe it when you see it, when it comes to Acura.
I'm hoping the current TLX is more of the "past" Acura, than the Future "changed" Acura.
The NA 4 cyl, mixed with the not best in class numbers for the old 3.5 V6 are not encouraging.
Let's hope in a few more years (MMC) they make a significant change.
Some of the performance options R&D has cooked up will now be fast-tracked for approval and production. Here's to a GOOD Type S option.
#8183
Some dude
Yep, you're clearly not biased and serving your own agenda.
And a TLX Type-S with anything less then 400 hp would be another half measure because they clearly don't take anything seriously.
Last edited by MeehowsBRZ; 04-16-2014 at 12:58 PM.
#8184
I drive a Subata.
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hp numbers
mpg number
ring lap time
These ALL matter A LOT for marketing, if you know anything about marketing.
#8185
Suzuka Master
Another disappointment
#8187
Azine Jabroni
"Premium Feel"
#8188
I drive a Subata.
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They had to find the most boring presenter ever. Jesus.
#8189
The sizzle in the Steak
Type-S has never been on par with M, AMG, S, or even F.
I'd assume at best 25-35 additional horses courtesy of a 3.7 motor?, suspension upgrades, wheels, trim pieces...."maybe" a six speed manual option....maybe.
...and that's pretty darn good IMHO.
Type-S never was, and never will be an M or AMG.
...and that's ok......so long as Acura delivers a Type-S that is more than just window dressing trim bits and wheels.....which I think they can/will do.
Turbo V6 is just not in the cards.
#8191
Azine Jabroni
#8192
Some dude
1. Those wheels seem really busy.
2. About 5 people cared enough to clap for it.
3. P-AWS will always look dumb, stop using that Acura!
4. lol, at "Sport +" mode.
2. About 5 people cared enough to clap for it.
3. P-AWS will always look dumb, stop using that Acura!
4. lol, at "Sport +" mode.
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The sizzle in the Steak
#8195
I drive a Subata.
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#8197
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#8198
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Man that track looked fun to drive.
#8199
Azine Jabroni