Acura: TLX News
#6961
Racer
On the contrary it is a niche market on many of their cars, as they don't really compete head to head in most of the categories the way let's say 3 series, A4, IS, C class, ATS compete...or GS, 5 series, CTS, A6, E class compete.
Outside of the MDX and RDX....it's a niche market for Acura.
Outside of the MDX and RDX....it's a niche market for Acura.
This new TLX redesign is just as dramatic as the RDX. Look at any news source; Car & Driver, AutoBlog, Road & Track, etc...the reaction from journalists and readers to this design is overwhelmingly positive. (Unlike the RLX redesign last year, which was mostly negative.) It will not be a surprise if TLX sales go up dramatically over the outgoing TL.
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#6962
אני עומד עם ישראל
It will sell.
Looks good, competitive powertrains, not bad Acura.
Looks good, competitive powertrains, not bad Acura.
#6963
What we need is a 6MT (I'm sure hoping that civicdrivr's hunch is right)
...After that, what we really need is a CLX Type S 6MT. A proper CL revival as the 4th car in the lineup, and I would definitely consider lining up for one.
...After that, what we really need is a CLX Type S 6MT. A proper CL revival as the 4th car in the lineup, and I would definitely consider lining up for one.
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#6965
Safety Car
NY Daily News
The Acura TL is a likeable sport sedan, but controversial looks and an aging design have cut into sales. At Detroit, Acura revealed the TL's replacement, the TLX. Though billed as a prototype, the TLX is a thinly veiled glimpse at the 2015 TLX due midyear.
Acura says the TLX is designed around the theme "red carpet athlete," combining refinement with sports sedan performance. The car is 3.8 inches shorter and its lines are more taut, but it rides the same 109.3-inch wheelbase as the outgoing TL and has as much interior space.
Acura says the smaller size helps the TLX fit more appropriately between the compact ILX and the full-size RLX. The smaller TSX will be dropped later this year.
Instead of more power, the 2015 TLX will strive for more efficiency. An all-new 2.4-liter 4-cylinder becomes the base engine as Acura aims to cover the ground left by the soon-to-be-discontinued TSX.
The 4-cylinder is lighter than Acura/Honda's last 2.4 and it has direct injection and VTEC variable valve timing and lift. Acura isn't providing horsepower numbers at this point, but we expect 200 to 210 horses. The 2.4 is mated to a new 8-speed dual-clutch transmission with a torque converter.
The current model's 3.5-liter V6, which also has direct injection and VTEC, plus cylinder deactivation technology returns. Today's version makes 280 horsepower, but Acura isn't saying if there is a horsepower increase. The 3.5 will be mated to a new class-exclusive 9-speed automatic transmission. Acura says fuel economy should lead the midsize luxury sedan class for both engines.
When it hits the market, TLX buyers will have a choice of front-wheel drive or the next generation of Acura's Super Handling All-Wheel Drive system (SH-AWD). Acura Precision All-Wheel Steer system will also be offered. An Integrated Dynamics System will allow drivers to tailor the driving experience via a choice of four driving modes, Econ, Normal, Sport and Sport +.
Acura isn't showing the interior at this point, but the company did say it will have the next generation of AcuraLink entertainment and communications services.
The TLX's new design direction is certainly better looking, and that could attract more customers. However, the 4-cylinder powertrain seems like a step backward for a midsize luxury sport sedan.
Only time will tell if this package will be enough to give Acura the shot in the arm it needs.
#6966
Burning Brakes
It's the best looking Acura sedan in a while. It's better looking than my beloved 3G TL, because of a much better profile view. The 3G TL has too much over hang. This TLX will once again be competitive. It's way better looking than what Lexus or Infiniti has out now. BMW and Audi still make very nice looking cars. Even Mercedes new entry and mid sized selections are good looking. The entry and mid size luxury market is very competitive. I hope Acura learned its lesson that design does matter. The RDX is selling like hot cakes because of a good redesign. The MDX has always been a good seller because every generation it was one of the better looking in its class. The 4G TL and 2G RL were monstrosities and sold horribly.
Honda, going forward mimick the Germans in design, subtle evolution in designs is much better than drastic changes each generation.
Honda, going forward mimick the Germans in design, subtle evolution in designs is much better than drastic changes each generation.
#6967
Safety Car
AutoNews
Acura today unveiled a prototype version of its 2015 TLX mid-sized sedan, a car that will replace the TL and TSX sedans in its lineup.
The TL was once Acura's top-selling model. But as consumer tastes have shifted toward crossovers, the TL has fallen to a distant third, behind the MDX and RDX crossovers. Acura's front-wheel-drive sedans have also struggled to compete against rear-drive cars from Lexus, BMW and Mercedes-Benz.
With the TLX, Acura will offer consumers a wider choice of powertrains than it has in the past. The sedan will be available with either a 2.4-liter 4-cylinder or a 3.5-liter V-6. Those engines generate 185 and 278 horsepower, respectively, in other American Honda offerings.
The TLX also will be the large-volume launching pad for Honda Motor's dual-clutch automatic transmissions. The 4-cylinder engine will have an 8-speed transmission; the V-6 will get a 9-speed. Both the 4- and 6-cylinder cars will come with standard fwd with 4-wheel steering; the V-6 has optional all-wheel drive.
The production version of the TLX is likely to have the same measurements as the prototype. The overall length, at 190.2 inches, will be nearly four inches shorter than the outgoing TL's, but the wheelbase remains the same at 109.3 inches.
The vehicle dynamics can be selected from Comfort, Normal, Sport and Sport-Plus modes, with each setting adjusting the power steering, throttle response, shift mapping, noise control, all-wheel drive and steering control logic, and climate control routing.
"The Acura TLX Prototype is a precursor of some amazing things we have in store for our Acura sedan customers," Mike Accavitti, American Honda senior vice president, said in a statement. "This completely new model will offer innovative technologies that break down the barriers between the driver and the machine, to deliver a more intuitive, connected and personal driving experience."
#6968
Safety Car
All Michigan
Acura on Tuesday revealed its 2015 Acura TLX prototype at the North American International Auto Show in Downtown Detroit.
The TLX, to become available for purchase later this year, will replace the Japanese automaker's TL model as its mid-level performance luxury sedan, between the ILX and RLX.
Mike Accavitti, senior vice president of American Honda Motor, Co. described the TLX as "incredibly nimble, dynamic and firmly planted."
It features a low, wide profile with a lot of cargo space and leg room, while offering a choice between a 2.4-liter engine with an 8-speed, dual-clutch transmission and a 3.5-liter engine with 9-speed automatic transmission.
"Quick and nimble at low to mid speeds and very linear and nimble at high speeds," said Accavitti.
Acura is using imagery of a "red-carpet athlete," to market the vehicle.
All-wheel precision steering and advanced noise reduction are part of the "vault-like experience," or a hushed, controlled, adrenaline-infused isolation that Acura is trying to create inside the vehicle.
"We have never put so much serious technology in one car before," Accavitti said.
He said Acura is also targeting top-class fuel efficiency for new model, but didn't specify.
The car will be built for the North American market at Acura’s plant in Marysville, Ohio.
Accavitti also introduced a racing version of the vehicle, the Acura TLX GT racecar.
Automakers are unveiling more than 50 vehicles in press previews this week
The Detroit auto show will be open to the public from Jan. 18-26 at Cobo Center, One Washington Blvd., following Press Preview Jan. 13-14; Industry Preview Jan. 15-16; and the Charity Preview featuring musician Sheryl Crow on Jan. 17.
Tickets to the 2014 public show days are $7 for senior citizens and children between 7-12 years old; $13 for adults; and free for children 6 and under. Tickets for the black-tie Charity Preview are $350. For more information on tickets, visit naias.com.
#6969
Race Director
Do we really need these many articles that say the same thing? We get it already, 2.4 I4 w/ 8DCT, 3.5V6 w/ 9AT, blah ,blah, blah......wake me up when new info comes along.
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#6970
Safety Car
Articles
I am skipping the articles that just rehash the press release & posting ones that have orignal pics and not just stock photos. Hopefully there will be a TLX forum soon where dedicated threads can be made to help navigate all of the topics and discussions.
New for Acura design -- and something we'll have to see on the street to appreciate -- the TLX prototype's side mirrors have LEDs fused into their bases; turn on your indicator and the lights are said to provide a "moving glow" around the mirror's bottom edge. Overall, the new TLX prototype has a refined design with a luxurious feel, but there's nothing bold about the prototype except for the bright red paint and the show car 20-inch wheels. The design has promise, but we look forward to seeing the actual production car.
New for Acura design -- and something we'll have to see on the street to appreciate -- the TLX prototype's side mirrors have LEDs fused into their bases; turn on your indicator and the lights are said to provide a "moving glow" around the mirror's bottom edge. Overall, the new TLX prototype has a refined design with a luxurious feel, but there's nothing bold about the prototype except for the bright red paint and the show car 20-inch wheels. The design has promise, but we look forward to seeing the actual production car.
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#6971
Advanced
The TLX looks good. I hope there is NO double screen in the car.
I also hope that it has reverse/front sensors (parking) but I doubt it.
I also hope the it has headlamp washers. Driving in the night with dirty headlamp sucks big time.
I also hope that it has reverse/front sensors (parking) but I doubt it.
I also hope the it has headlamp washers. Driving in the night with dirty headlamp sucks big time.
#6972
It's a beautiful car with a simple grill delete. The improved V6 with 9 speed auto and SHAWD is seriously tempting. If they ever make a Type-S version with the GT's twin turbo V6 I'll line up for it.
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#6974
Safety Car
Australia/Euro Accord
JAPANESE luxury brand Acura has ripped the covers off its TLX sedan at the Detroit motor show, previewing what is believed to be the 3rd-generation Honda Accord Euro tipped to arrive in Australia this year.
The current-generation Accord Euro went on sale in mid 2008, meaning it will be at least a 6-year-old model by the time the all-new version potentially arrives.
Honda president and chief executive Takanobu Ito confirmed at last year's Detroit motor show that a new Accord Euro would be produced, ending speculation that the Japanese car-maker was planning to ditch its strategy of selling a mid- and large-size sedan under the Accord name.
At the time Ito-San said the next-generation Euro sedan was in development, but could not confirm when he expected it to be revealed.
Calling the Detroit show car a protoype, Acura – Honda’s US-based luxury arm -- said the TLX showcases the final design of the production version that will go on sale in the US mid-year.
If the TLX does evolve into the Accord Euro, it it is likely to feature less US-centric styling and will lose some of the premium goodies expected in the TLX to keep local pricing in mid-size sedan territory.
With few, if any reports of other Honda-based sedans in development, a restyled version of the TLX is the most logical replacement for the popular Euro in the Australian market and, as its name suggests, Europe.
Developed around the theme 'Red Carpet Athlete', Acura said the TLX delivered “a compelling blend of luxury refinement and sports-sedan athleticism, with exhilarating performance” thanks to new powertrains and technologies.
The TLX was designed and developed by Acura engineers at the company's Los Angeles design studio and the Raymond, Ohio development centre and will be built in Marysville, Ohio.
Featuring a similar shape to the regular Accord sedan that went on sale in Australia in May last year, the TLX carries a deep V-shaped grille and the company's signature 'Jewel Eye' LED headlights, along with foglights housed within a lower air intake spanning the width of the bumper.
A low stance, chunky wheel arches, 20-inch alloy wheels and short front and rear overhangs push the sports-luxury theme further, while it includes prototype-only LED indicator lights in the base of the external mirrors, giving a 3D look.
The TLX measures in at 4831mm, which is 54mm shorter than the Australian-spec Honda Accord at 4885mm, and 91mm longer than the aging, 4740mm-long Accord Euro.
Acura is yet to reveal images of the cabin and details of standard equipment, but the luxury sedan will feature “advanced connectivity via a capacitive touch panel”.
Honda's Super-Handling All-Wheel Drive will be available on some variants in the US, as will a lighter-weight version of the Precision All-Wheel Steer (P-AWS) system.
The Japanese car-maker used an all-wheel steering system on a number of models in the 1980s and ‘90s, including 3rd and 4th-generation versions of the popular Prelude sportscar.
2 engines will be available in the US, including a 2.4-litre 4-cylinder unit matched with a new 8-speed dual-clutch transmission with a torque converter, and a 3.5-litre V6 linked with a 9-speed automatic transmission.
The company said is it was targeting fuel economy at the top of the US mid-size luxury segment.
4 driving modes – ECON (Economy), Normal, Sport, and a new Sport+ – are standard across the range, and the TLX is set to deliver what the company calls “vault-like quietness” thanks to extensive engineering work to lower noise, vibration and harshness.
In terms of safety, the TLX is expected to feature a forward collision warning, a collision mitigation braking system, lane departure warning, lane-keep assist, adaptive cruise control and a blind-spot indicator.
In the US, the TLX will replace both the current-generation TL and TSX sedan, a re-badged version of the vehicle sold in Australia as the Accord Euro.
The current-model Honda Accord Euro is available in Australia in 2 specifications with a 2.4-litre 4-cylinder engine, priced from $30,340 before on-roads for the entry-level model with a manual gearbox. It tops out at $43,140 for the Luxury Nav with an automatic transmission.
Unlike its Japanese luxury counterparts including Toyota-owned Lexus and Nissan-backed Infiniti, Acura is only sold in the US, Canada, Mexico and mainland China and Hong Kong. A Japanese launch was put on hold in 2008 following the global financial crisis.
In the US, the reborn NSX supercar will carry an Acura badge, whereas it will wear a Honda badge when it eventually arrives in Australia in 2015.
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MuGen7Modulo (01-15-2014)
#6975
so when its pushing 50k+ for the TT version youll buy? give me your name+number and ill take a deposit from you when its announced. ill make sure youre one of the first to get one.
#6976
Suzuka Master
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It's the best looking Acura sedan in a while. It's better looking than my beloved 3G TL, because of a much better profile view. The 3G TL has too much over hang. This TLX will once again be competitive. It's way better looking than what Lexus or Infiniti has out now. BMW and Audi still make very nice looking cars. Even Mercedes new entry and mid sized selections are good looking. The entry and mid size luxury market is very competitive. I hope Acura learned its lesson that design does matter. The RDX is selling like hot cakes because of a good redesign. The MDX has always been a good seller because every generation it was one of the better looking in its class. The 4G TL and 2G RL were monstrosities and sold horribly.
Honda, going forward mimick the Germans in design, subtle evolution in designs is much better than drastic changes each generation.
Honda, going forward mimick the Germans in design, subtle evolution in designs is much better than drastic changes each generation.
#6978
Whats up with RDX owners?
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#6979
Moderator
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#6980
Moderator
#6982
Azine Jabroni
#6983
Some dude
#6985
Azine Jabroni
#6986
▒JDM ¥ KING▒
10 pages in one day, hmm looks like the "lost ones" are coming back slowly...
#6987
AZ Community Team
I'm guessing it is based on the 9G Accord and will use a strut front suspension?
#6988
Suzuka Master
Has anyone heard from Acura why they're ditching exhaust tips
#6989
Senior Moderator
#6990
Moderator
#6991
Senior Moderator
Secondly, ttribe has owned his share of cars and like everyone, can have an opinion. And while, he is certainly an enthusiast of BMW, I think if the comment warrants a response from him, he has a right to respond. I see no issues.
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#6992
Senior Moderator
Although, I think he does need to step on more LEGO bricks. But, that's more my issue with him.
#6993
I drive a Subata.
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#6994
Senior Moderator
#6995
Some dude
Meh, compared to the E39, the E60 is the 4G TL of the 5 series.
My only statement was that not every BMW has an amazingly integrated and beautiful grille despite Moog's belief of the contrary. Seems legit enough.
#6996
The sizzle in the Steak
You're wrong, Acura sedans today like their competition have a simple tiered platform with sizes/features that match up to their competition. Pretty basic marketing and product positioning.
The older Acura products that were a niche were the Integra/RSX, NSX and ZDX since majority of their main brand competitors didn't have a equivalent model. You could also argue the CL as well.
The older Acura products that were a niche were the Integra/RSX, NSX and ZDX since majority of their main brand competitors didn't have a equivalent model. You could also argue the CL as well.
It's niche.
#6997
The sizzle in the Steak
#6998
The sizzle in the Steak
#6999
AZ Community Team
We're talking whole vehicles, not powertrains. Acura is mainstream and unlike Porsche, Jaguar or Subaru who have their respective niche markets. Acura is missing some vehicles in their lineup (hence no coupes, convertibles, or S/7/LS class flagship) but their current lineup is mainstream.
In the 60's through mid-80's MB and BMW didn't consider each other competitors, BMW was the sporty manufacturer and MB the luxury. That changed with the E32. Today they and Audi all compete pretty heavily against each other in the mainstream market.
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#7000
Team Owner
they better price TLX correctly. or they will kill themselves like RLX <---good car + wrong MSRP = bad car
They better NOT price FWD advance TLX at $50k. Then how much will they want for AWD? $55k?
But there is likely a HUGE price difference between the FWD 4 banger base and the fully loaded AWD, since this car replaced 2 cars.
They better NOT price FWD advance TLX at $50k. Then how much will they want for AWD? $55k?
But there is likely a HUGE price difference between the FWD 4 banger base and the fully loaded AWD, since this car replaced 2 cars.
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