Acura: RLX News
03-17-2008, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sho_nuff1997
rumors sound good, but i'll believe it when i see it.
Looks alot better than mmc....
I'll wait till I see it.
03-17-2008, 11:12 PM
#1807
how handsome I am
also, if this rendering holds true, its about fucking time Acura stepped the RL up and moved it towards really competing with cars like the 7, the S, the LS, etc.
The interior is flawless in my opinion, and now finally people can get to see it without stopping at the exterior of the car with vomit in their mouths.
The interior is flawless in my opinion, and now finally people can get to see it without stopping at the exterior of the car with vomit in their mouths.
03-18-2008, 07:41 AM
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Ugh... over 70K for a RWD V8... might be a hard sell, but seeing how the current RL is flying out the doors (it's not), I'm sure anything is possible 
It looks good, but with the BMW 550 starting at $60, and the BMW 750 starting at $70, it's gonna need alot more than looks to get people out of a bmw and into a acura with an over 70K price tag.
It looks good, but with the BMW 550 starting at $60, and the BMW 750 starting at $70, it's gonna need alot more than looks to get people out of a bmw and into a acura with an over 70K price tag.
03-18-2008, 07:46 AM
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Even if the rumors are true and are coming out from Honda itself, 2010 is a long ways away.
Remember the report of a ferarri crash that was "road testing" with the next gen NSX? Nothing remotely came of it. Remember reports of a AWD hybrid-RL (based on Dualnote or whatever)? Nothing remotely came of it. Remember the last NSX concept that was "scrapped"? Remember the NSX concept before that that was scrapped because it wasn't the "image" that Honda wanted (although it was more true to the last gen. NSX than the last concept and the rumors of current replacement)? Honda seems to release rumors just to throw people off guard and get them excited about it again.
Based on Honda's past history of "rumoring" a certain direction, then going a COMPLETELY different direction or scrapping a direction entirely, this car, as hot as it could be if it was actually manufactured, may just be powered by "dreams".
I'm not holding my breath for obvious reasons.
Remember the report of a ferarri crash that was "road testing" with the next gen NSX? Nothing remotely came of it. Remember reports of a AWD hybrid-RL (based on Dualnote or whatever)? Nothing remotely came of it. Remember the last NSX concept that was "scrapped"? Remember the NSX concept before that that was scrapped because it wasn't the "image" that Honda wanted (although it was more true to the last gen. NSX than the last concept and the rumors of current replacement)? Honda seems to release rumors just to throw people off guard and get them excited about it again.
Based on Honda's past history of "rumoring" a certain direction, then going a COMPLETELY different direction or scrapping a direction entirely, this car, as hot as it could be if it was actually manufactured, may just be powered by "dreams".
I'm not holding my breath for obvious reasons.
Yes, they have... and it's all their fault...
03-18-2008, 11:21 AM
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Sweet concept! And already polling well to! A non-car enthusiast buddy of mine just saw the chopped pic on my screen and asked me a zillion questions about it.
The grille will work for Acura, but only on the right design (read: angular). And its time its cars got a corporate look anyway...
I highly doubt the RL will cost 70k. 60 maybe, but not 70. But at the same time it could work - aim in in the middle of the 5 series and 7 - lux content of the 7 with the handling dynamics and character of the 5 at price in between the two. Seems ambitious...
The grille will work for Acura, but only on the right design (read: angular). And its time its cars got a corporate look anyway...
I highly doubt the RL will cost 70k. 60 maybe, but not 70. But at the same time it could work - aim in in the middle of the 5 series and 7 - lux content of the 7 with the handling dynamics and character of the 5 at price in between the two. Seems ambitious...
03-18-2008, 11:30 AM
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The sizzle in the Steak
Wake me when it's 2010
03-18-2008, 12:03 PM
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For the car to be ready for 2010, the car had better have the major components tested by now. BMW's 2011 5 series has been spotted testing. The MB E class will come soon. I think if the new RL can match level of performance of the new 5 series and offer a high level of luxury and technology, it would completely change the brand.
The technology can trickle down to future Acura cars. Right now it just seems that TL is leading the way. Timing is off.
$70k is unlikely. It needs to offer more space than the 5 and E class.
The technology can trickle down to future Acura cars. Right now it just seems that TL is leading the way. Timing is off.
$70k is unlikely. It needs to offer more space than the 5 and E class.
03-18-2008, 06:14 PM
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Any car company that can come out with a very competitive package with a V8 w/ 25-30mpg by 2010 at less than $50-55k (adjusted for inflation in 2010), in time for $5-6/gal gas prices will be very, very convincing. Is this possible with current technologies like cylinder deactivation, 7+ speed tranny, and whatever else is currently available on the market? Probably a big stretch, if not completely impossible. But who knows what technologies 2010 will bring.
If any automaker can do it, can Honda? I would bet that they CAN be the first to bring it, but I wouldn't bet my money that they actually would based on the fact that they seem they would rather fade into oblivion before taking any big risks.
If any automaker can do it, can Honda? I would bet that they CAN be the first to bring it, but I wouldn't bet my money that they actually would based on the fact that they seem they would rather fade into oblivion before taking any big risks.
03-18-2008, 06:27 PM
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luvs redheads!
all I know is TOV just spread rumors about the NSX from Prime...which I am a member of and the pics and stats used were from another member who did the 3d renderings himself..i ROFL, when i found out.
Good news is there is a report that next year a NEW NSX(?) WILL have a v10 100% and a total redesign because the pit crew at ALMS filled in a few members.
Good news is there is a report that next year a NEW NSX(?) WILL have a v10 100% and a total redesign because the pit crew at ALMS filled in a few members.
03-18-2008, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by PG2G
Honda has turned you all into pessimists :P
, the original rumors of the 2G RL with V8 and RWD that never came to pass....
03-18-2008, 07:47 PM
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The smart thing for Acura to do if they want to compete with the LS, 7, A8 and S Class is to come out with a completely new model. I don't see the RL, now barely competing with the GS, 5 and such competing in the full size premium segment. When Infiniti comes out with the new Q however, that will be a different story.
03-18-2008, 07:59 PM
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6G TLX-S
I don't think anyone who spends $70K for a luxury vehicle would care about the gas price. Luxury gas-guzzler vehicles are immune to gas prices. Only economy gas-guzzler vehicles will be affected by high gas prices.
03-18-2008, 08:10 PM
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I'm still pessimistic. how the hell is Honda going to pull 400+ hp from 3.8L without making it a high revver?
And by now, Acura is at least 3 generations behind Lexus's LS sedan to compete. So they really need to play it right. I don't want to see penny cheap plastic "metal" when the much lower priced TL uses authentic aluminum in its interior. And none of that "real wood on the dash, fake wood everywhere else" like on the current RL.
And by now, Acura is at least 3 generations behind Lexus's LS sedan to compete. So they really need to play it right. I don't want to see penny cheap plastic "metal" when the much lower priced TL uses authentic aluminum in its interior. And none of that "real wood on the dash, fake wood everywhere else" like on the current RL.
03-18-2008, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by phile
I'm still pessimistic. how the hell is Honda going to pull 400+ hp from 3.8L without making it a high revver?
03-18-2008, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ImportsRhot
The smart thing for Acura to do if they want to compete with the LS, 7, A8 and S Class is to come out with a completely new model. I don't see the RL, now barely competing with the GS, 5 and such competing in the full size premium segment. When Infiniti comes out with the new Q however, that will be a different story.
03-18-2008, 09:22 PM
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maybe they want to move the TL up to the midluxury segment considering it has an established name and they can capitalize on that name in their weakest segment. The TSX can then move up to the entry level position.
Unless the TL changes radically though, I see it running into the same problems as the current RL. Smartest thing to do is a new model above the RL. But that would be putting the carriage before the horse because they need to nail the $50k midluxury segment before they jump to the $70k+ full luxury segment.
Unless the TL changes radically though, I see it running into the same problems as the current RL. Smartest thing to do is a new model above the RL. But that would be putting the carriage before the horse because they need to nail the $50k midluxury segment before they jump to the $70k+ full luxury segment.
03-18-2008, 09:43 PM
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If the rumors are true, SWEET. BUT im finding it hard to believe right now with all the other let downs we have had from them. But heres to 
03-18-2008, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdeeno
maybe they want to move the TL up to the midluxury segment considering it has an established name and they can capitalize on that name in their weakest segment. The TSX can then move up to the entry level position.
Unless the TL changes radically though, I see it running into the same problems as the current RL. Smartest thing to do is a new model above the RL. But that would be putting the carriage before the horse because they need to nail the $50k midluxury segment before they jump to the $70k+ full luxury segment.
Unless the TL changes radically though, I see it running into the same problems as the current RL. Smartest thing to do is a new model above the RL. But that would be putting the carriage before the horse because they need to nail the $50k midluxury segment before they jump to the $70k+ full luxury segment.
03-18-2008, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdeeno
The "rumor" says 4.8L V8.
03-18-2008, 10:40 PM
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Looks a ton better than the Acura RL concept a month ago. The RWD AND V8 will NEVER, I repeat, NEVER happen though. Lest we forget, this is ACURA we are talking about, folks.
Even if it does, its too little, too late. Acura has had so many chances to produce a drool worthy V8 (Mugen Legend MAX) but those concepts never came to fruition. Just another cock tease.... strangely enough, the more of these BS rumors I hear about, the less and less I want an Acura because in reality I know it will never happen. I'm glad none of us have our hopes up, at least our dreams won't be crushed for the 67th time.
Oh, and I'd rather take a G8 GXP anyday.
Still looks way better, will come with a 6-speed manual and has that ground rumbling American pushrod sound and performance, not to mention economy. I'd hate to see what kind of mileage a V8 Acura would get.... when I drove a 2G TL-S I got 22 to the gallon.
Even if it does, its too little, too late. Acura has had so many chances to produce a drool worthy V8 (Mugen Legend MAX) but those concepts never came to fruition. Just another cock tease.... strangely enough, the more of these BS rumors I hear about, the less and less I want an Acura because in reality I know it will never happen. I'm glad none of us have our hopes up, at least our dreams won't be crushed for the 67th time.
Oh, and I'd rather take a G8 GXP anyday.
Still looks way better, will come with a 6-speed manual and has that ground rumbling American pushrod sound and performance, not to mention economy. I'd hate to see what kind of mileage a V8 Acura would get.... when I drove a 2G TL-S I got 22 to the gallon.
03-18-2008, 10:47 PM
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Where is everyone getting RWD from? No where in the article does it say that the RL will be RWD. It says FR based SH-AWD. That means it will have a rear-wheel-drive based SH-AWD system. So take the current SH-AWD system in the RL and just flip it. There is no RWD.
03-19-2008, 12:01 AM
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"But unlike the current RL, which sits on a front-wheel-drive platform and features Honda's SH-AWD four-wheel-drive system, the all-new RL will instead incorporate a rear-drive platform, one necessity that Honda planners have clearly identified in this segment, and a reconfigured SH-AWD system that engages the front wheels when rear traction is compromised."
Guess its open to interpretation.
Guess its open to interpretation.
03-19-2008, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by VTEC Racer
Where is everyone getting RWD from? No where in the article does it say that the RL will be RWD. It says FR based SH-AWD. That means it will have a rear-wheel-drive based SH-AWD system. So take the current SH-AWD system in the RL and just flip it. There is no RWD.
03-19-2008, 12:49 AM
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Basically its a RWD minus the fun. Try and kick the tail out and SH-AWD will butt in and call the cops and end the party, except it'll happen in a fraction of a second.
How does Acura fuck everything up so badly? Even when they tread into the deeper 6 ft pool, they wanna bring alone a floatation device just in case.
How does Acura fuck everything up so badly? Even when they tread into the deeper 6 ft pool, they wanna bring alone a floatation device just in case.
03-19-2008, 05:42 AM
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RWD & SHAWD
LeftLaneNews makes it sound like there will be RWD & a SHAWD version:
Acura V8 Rumors Heat Up, Again
With rumors of Honda’s luxury brand getting a V8 engine for its flagships circulating for years, new reports rekindle the flame. The current Acura RL makes do with a 300 horsepower V6 putting power to the ground via a front-wheel-biased all-wheel drive system. The reports hint the next generation RL will be built on a new rear-wheel drive platform, with a decidedly rear-wheel bias for an expected AWD system, and powered by a 4.8 liter V8 good for 420 horsepower.
The new engine, a first for Honda, would feature a cylinder deactivation system to attain class-leading fuel economy, according to Inside Line. The Advanced Sedan Concept Acura showed at the 2007 Los Angeles Auto Show may provide a hint as to the new flagship’s look. Last month, Japan’s Best Car magazine printed a rendering of the RL, reporting it would have a 4.5 liter V8 under its hood.
Earlier beliefs included Acura skipping V8 engine development and taking a page or two out of its F1 engine program to produce V10s for the street.
Acura V8 Rumors Heat Up, Again
With rumors of Honda’s luxury brand getting a V8 engine for its flagships circulating for years, new reports rekindle the flame. The current Acura RL makes do with a 300 horsepower V6 putting power to the ground via a front-wheel-biased all-wheel drive system. The reports hint the next generation RL will be built on a new rear-wheel drive platform, with a decidedly rear-wheel bias for an expected AWD system, and powered by a 4.8 liter V8 good for 420 horsepower.
The new engine, a first for Honda, would feature a cylinder deactivation system to attain class-leading fuel economy, according to Inside Line. The Advanced Sedan Concept Acura showed at the 2007 Los Angeles Auto Show may provide a hint as to the new flagship’s look. Last month, Japan’s Best Car magazine printed a rendering of the RL, reporting it would have a 4.5 liter V8 under its hood.
Earlier beliefs included Acura skipping V8 engine development and taking a page or two out of its F1 engine program to produce V10s for the street.
03-19-2008, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
How does Acura fuck everything up so badly? Even when they tread into the deeper 6 ft pool, they wanna bring alone a floatation device just in case.
I swear, a lot of you guys have passed the point of being pessimists and turned into nothing more than trolls.
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03-19-2008, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ImportsRhot
I don't take Acura seriously. I don't respect them as a brand anymore.
years and years of rumors, high hopes, and finishing those off with products years behind the competition. The 2004 TSX and TL were excellent cars. They won awards and beat the competition in many categories. But they have been a complete joke lately. The new TSX for example: a 5AT in a 2008 "luxury" brand vehicle? Please.