Acura: NSX News
12-18-2009, 08:30 AM
#2361
Go Big Blue!
I'm still not sure I understand all the negativity. This should be good news! The NSX lives on to fight another day. A few years from now, when Honda flip flops again
, they will have a track proven vehicle to base a street legal NSX on. I'm glad to see this eventhough it's not coming to a showroom near you.
12-18-2009, 08:55 AM
#2362
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I'm still not sure I understand all the negativity. This should be good news! The NSX lives on to fight another day. A few years from now, when Honda flip flops again , they will have a track proven vehicle to base a street legal NSX on. I'm glad to see this eventhough it's not coming to a showroom near you.
, they will have a track proven vehicle to base a street legal NSX on. I'm glad to see this eventhough it's not coming to a showroom near you.I can't wait for the official annoucement on the name of the new car. HSV? ABC? NDX? What ever they call it, I hope that we can finally put the NSX name to rest.
12-18-2009, 09:16 AM
#2363
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I'm still not sure I understand all the negativity. This should be good news! The NSX lives on to fight another day. A few years from now, when Honda flip flops again , they will have a track proven vehicle to base a street legal NSX on. I'm glad to see this eventhough it's not coming to a showroom near you.
, they will have a track proven vehicle to base a street legal NSX on. I'm glad to see this eventhough it's not coming to a showroom near you.
I agree, this is fabulous news.I truly hope the NSX rides again someday.
12-18-2009, 02:33 PM
#2364
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Seems odd but think about the significantly larger commitment when selling a car to the public. You need to provide service support for at least 10 years across the world. Parts, technical expertise, etc. With the SGT or F1, you fold your tent and close up in almost a moment's notice.
I'm still not sure I understand all the negativity. This should be good news! The NSX lives on to fight another day. A few years from now, when Honda flip flops again , they will have a track proven vehicle to base a street legal NSX on. I'm glad to see this eventhough it's not coming to a showroom near you.
I'm still not sure I understand all the negativity. This should be good news! The NSX lives on to fight another day. A few years from now, when Honda flip flops again
, they will have a track proven vehicle to base a street legal NSX on. I'm glad to see this eventhough it's not coming to a showroom near you.
That is "IF" they were to even produce it which given honda as of late wont happen.
12-18-2009, 02:49 PM
#2365
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Well, let's hope Honda flipflops...I think the manufacturer can really use a nice halo car. 
12-18-2009, 03:39 PM
#2366
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12-18-2009, 05:48 PM
#2367
12-18-2009, 06:16 PM
#2368
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Exactly how many times do Honda execs have to officailly cancel the car before you guys give up?
They've already said a car like this goes against the direction they're headed and you still think they'll eventually release it? LoL.
They've already said a car like this goes against the direction they're headed and you still think they'll eventually release it? LoL.
12-18-2009, 06:18 PM
#2369
Just posting the link to what the race car might look like? Not thinking production is imminent. Sheesh.
12-18-2009, 06:24 PM
#2370
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Wasn't aimed at you. I was talking to the 2 numbskulls 
up top who think we'll see a road version at some point.
Sure this is good news....if you follow and watch Japanese touring cars. Otherwise I don't see much positive here. Sure they'll be some trickle down to road cars like there was in F1. But Honda doesn't have nor plan to release an RWD car. So where exactly will what they learn on the track go?
What isn't mentioned is that Honda been racing in that same series with the NSX for the last what? 10 to 15 yeras? where exactly did that go as far as their road cars?
Unless like Mike said, they flip flop again. But does anyone really see that happening?
up top who think we'll see a road version at some point. Sure this is good news....if you follow and watch Japanese touring cars. Otherwise I don't see much positive here. Sure they'll be some trickle down to road cars like there was in F1. But Honda doesn't have nor plan to release an RWD car. So where exactly will what they learn on the track go?
What isn't mentioned is that Honda been racing in that same series with the NSX for the last what? 10 to 15 yeras? where exactly did that go as far as their road cars?
Unless like Mike said, they flip flop again. But does anyone really see that happening?
11-22-2010, 12:21 PM
#2371
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Motor Trend has published a rumor indicating that the NSX has been reimagined as a hybrid V6, either a 2.4 liter or 3.5 liter.
It makes note of a "spy" saying that there is a patent application in Japan indicating a V6 engine making 400 hp. A 400 hp J35?
http://www.motortrend.com/features/a...ife/index.html
Discuss.
It makes note of a "spy" saying that there is a patent application in Japan indicating a V6 engine making 400 hp. A 400 hp J35?
http://www.motortrend.com/features/a...ife/index.html
Discuss.
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11-22-2010, 12:25 PM
#2372
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Vaporcar. 
This is the Gran Turismo 5 of the automotive industry.
This is the Gran Turismo 5 of the automotive industry.
11-22-2010, 12:27 PM
#2373
The sizzle in the Steak
Shut up Motortrend!
11-22-2010, 12:34 PM
#2374
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Personally, I am more interested in a 400hp J35 in the RL, especially if Honda finds a way to add some low-end torque. An electronic motor is one way to do that. I therefore drag up the ghost of Dual-note again! 
But yeah, this is probably vaporware.
But yeah, this is probably vaporware.
11-22-2010, 12:53 PM
#2377
we can only wish the new NSX (if it'll ever happen) could look as good as that rendering.
11-22-2010, 01:26 PM
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11-22-2010, 01:29 PM
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11-22-2010, 01:31 PM
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11-22-2010, 01:46 PM
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11-22-2010, 01:58 PM
#2384
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Just read the whole thing, sorry I did.
Next up... Accord platform to underpin the Honda Jet.
The NSX lives, at least in a different form. According to one source, Honda never gave up its plans for an NSX successor. Even though the V-10-powered post-NSX concept came along at the wrong time -- during the economic meltdown -- and had to be cancelled, Honda engineers didn't completely shelve the project.
They simply applied a more market-friendly (and eco-friendly) sports-car approach to the company's flagship 2-door, giving it the latest hybrid gizmology. Completely different than Toyota's THS-II hybrid system, the technology slated to power Honda's new sports coupe "can be driven with either a clutch and an engine only, the engine and motor only, or the motor only," says our source. It will also offer a manual transmission option.
It apparently will employ a modified Accord platform, and power will come from either a 2.4-liter 4-cylinder or a 3.5-liter V-6, with the latter considered the sure favorite. Why do we think so? Once again our spies in Japan have uncovered a patent application that specifies a "V6 powertrain developing upwards of 400 horsepower." That makes sense, especially when you consider what 1 company staffer told us about Honda's desire to return to making sports cars. "Honda does not see the CR-Z as a sports car. It's a sporty coupe and a great first try in the hybrid-sports direction. To be called a sports car, a car needs to have the potential of an NSX or an S2000. That's what we need to aim for."
And as expected, the coupe will employ a version of the automaker's proven SH-AWD system, but Honda will apply NSX concept technology by fitting the rear-drive-based SH-AWD setup that enabled the test mule to lap the Nürburgring in 7 minutes, 37 seconds 2 years ago.
Using the front-wheel-drive Accord platform as a base for this car will cut R&D costs dramatically. Engineers will swap the front and rear around to create a rear midship AWD package. If the coupe gets the green light for production, expect to see it in showrooms as early as 2014. Still unclear is if the car will continue to be badged as an Acura here in the U.S.
They simply applied a more market-friendly (and eco-friendly) sports-car approach to the company's flagship 2-door, giving it the latest hybrid gizmology. Completely different than Toyota's THS-II hybrid system, the technology slated to power Honda's new sports coupe "can be driven with either a clutch and an engine only, the engine and motor only, or the motor only," says our source. It will also offer a manual transmission option.
It apparently will employ a modified Accord platform, and power will come from either a 2.4-liter 4-cylinder or a 3.5-liter V-6, with the latter considered the sure favorite. Why do we think so? Once again our spies in Japan have uncovered a patent application that specifies a "V6 powertrain developing upwards of 400 horsepower." That makes sense, especially when you consider what 1 company staffer told us about Honda's desire to return to making sports cars. "Honda does not see the CR-Z as a sports car. It's a sporty coupe and a great first try in the hybrid-sports direction. To be called a sports car, a car needs to have the potential of an NSX or an S2000. That's what we need to aim for."
And as expected, the coupe will employ a version of the automaker's proven SH-AWD system, but Honda will apply NSX concept technology by fitting the rear-drive-based SH-AWD setup that enabled the test mule to lap the Nürburgring in 7 minutes, 37 seconds 2 years ago.
Using the front-wheel-drive Accord platform as a base for this car will cut R&D costs dramatically. Engineers will swap the front and rear around to create a rear midship AWD package. If the coupe gets the green light for production, expect to see it in showrooms as early as 2014. Still unclear is if the car will continue to be badged as an Acura here in the U.S.
Next up... Accord platform to underpin the Honda Jet.
11-22-2010, 02:01 PM
#2385
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I'm thinking the 400HP V6 Hybrid has more to do with the next RL, not the NSX. Unless this new coupe isn't a NSX replacement, but more of a 3 series, G coupe competitor. Which is entirely plausible.
11-22-2010, 02:06 PM
#2386
The sizzle in the Steak
11-22-2010, 02:08 PM
#2387
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I'm hoping that the "modified" in the "modified Accord platform" means "modified to allow for SH-AWD or RWD". 
A guy can dream, right? After all, this is just a rumor.
A guy can dream, right? After all, this is just a rumor.
11-22-2010, 02:11 PM
#2388
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LoL @ Moog. Can you add wings to the Accord?
Bob, modifying an Accord platform to do battle with the 3 series and G is one thing, but modifying it for duty in an NSX level car is another. Which is why I'm betting on this vaporcar being a 3, G level car.
Bob, modifying an Accord platform to do battle with the 3 series and G is one thing, but modifying it for duty in an NSX level car is another. Which is why I'm betting on this vaporcar being a 3, G level car.
11-22-2010, 02:12 PM
#2389
Go Big Blue!
The bits and pieces of this story aren't adding up. It's got to be all BS or at least the stories "facts" are way off. Having said that, I agree Bob there's no way this car could be fwd if it even happens. At least it will have to be shawd
11-22-2010, 02:14 PM
#2390
Using the front-wheel-drive Accord platform as a base for this car will cut R&D costs dramatically. Engineers will swap the front and rear around to create a rear midship AWD package. If the coupe gets the green light for production, expect to see it in showrooms as early as 2014.
Such a car would not use the Accord chassis per se, but rather just the drivetrain placed in a unique chassis. IMO, such an approach wouldn't make an NSX, but it could make a pretty cool mid-engine car in the 40K-50K range.
11-22-2010, 02:29 PM
#2391
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I've often wondered why they haven't done this sooner? The original MR-2 was a Corolla with the engine/tranny in the back, and the 2G MR-2 was a Celica GT-S/GT-Four with the same treatment.
Such a car would not use the Accord chassis per se, but rather just the drivetrain placed in a unique chassis. IMO, such an approach wouldn't make an NSX, but it could make a pretty cool mid-engine car in the 40K-50K range.
Such a car would not use the Accord chassis per se, but rather just the drivetrain placed in a unique chassis. IMO, such an approach wouldn't make an NSX, but it could make a pretty cool mid-engine car in the 40K-50K range.
Not a bad concept...just not worthy of the NSX-moniker, that's all. Still, it's just a name.
I was ranting about the potential naming of the "M1" for the BMW 1-Series M trim and no one complained (oops, it's BMW...they can insult Mother Teresa and it is still all good).
11-22-2010, 02:39 PM
#2393
There has been a long running debate between AHM and HMC regarding the development of an NSX successor. I know the Americans wanted a Corvette fighter, and the Japanese wanted a Ferrari fighter.
11-22-2010, 03:25 PM
#2394
I'll believe it when I see it 
11-22-2010, 04:24 PM
#2395
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i think it's time to change the title of this thread... (like the GT5 thread)
11-22-2010, 04:46 PM
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The sizzle in the Steak
^^ win!
11-22-2010, 09:59 PM
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11-22-2010, 10:09 PM
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11-22-2010, 10:16 PM
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