Acura: ILX News
05-01-2012, 03:05 PM
#761
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The ED drivetrain will only help somewhat. The biggest factor for ILX will be pricing and the availability of the TSX. At sticker and a discounted TSX on the lot, I don't see big ILX numbers. With a discounted ILX and the only other thing on the lot being a 35+K TL, the ILX could sell.
05-01-2012, 08:20 PM
#762
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05-01-2012, 08:27 PM
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I agree that the car looks good. I hope whoever designed this one fixes the TL.
05-02-2012, 12:12 PM
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The ED drivetrain will only help somewhat. The biggest factor for ILX will be pricing and the availability of the TSX. At sticker and a discounted TSX on the lot, I don't see big ILX numbers. With a discounted ILX and the only other thing on the lot being a 35+K TL, the ILX could sell.
05-02-2012, 12:37 PM
#765
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Just keep in mind that we see pricing overlap in just about every other luxury make. 3 series, A4's, C Classes etc can all be spec'd higher than a 5, A6 and E. While I agree that the ILX is simply over matched compared to the TSX, there will be people who still prefer a smaller car or like the looks.
05-04-2012, 02:13 AM
#766
It's true, the TSX right now represents a better value, especially with the incentives. However, I'm looking at the long term. When the ED arrives, I suspect the TSX will be close to getting a FMC (if it's not being axed). Its pricing will probably be increased. Also, like many FMC models, there probably won't be too much discount for the first little while.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/wi...-than-a-dream/
The U.S. Will get its first Earth Dreams engine, a 2.4-liter inline-four, in the 2013 Accord. Europe will get a 1.6-liter diesel in the Civic. Honda says the diesel is the lightest of its kind and produces an extremely low 95 grams of CO2 per kilometer.
The U.S. Will get its first Earth Dreams engine, a 2.4-liter inline-four, in the 2013 Accord. Europe will get a 1.6-liter diesel in the Civic. Honda says the diesel is the lightest of its kind and produces an extremely low 95 grams of CO2 per kilometer.
05-05-2012, 01:43 PM
#768
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http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1#.T6V0dOivg3A
Honda's robotics research leads to more-stable vehicles.
The automaker has drawn from the superfast balancing system it uses to keep its experimental humanoid robots from toppling as they walk for use in a stability system on the new, 2013 Acura ILX compact sedan.
The "face" of Honda's humanoid robotics research is a human-acting robot Honda calls Asimo. Honda foresees a time when Asimo and its ilk will be used as "companions" to people who'd otherwise need assisted living or live-in human helpers.
Asimo walks like a person, lifting its legs one at a time and bending at the knee, and has articulated arms and hands so it can, for example, open a jar of apple butter or a bottle of sports drink for someone whose grip or arm strength is limited.
First time you see Asimo demonstrated, you'll swear there's a person inside making it move like that. Asimo and other industrial robots show up now and then at robot exhibitions around the country; worth a visit.
The robotics-inspired vehicle stability, or anti-skid, system will, Acura says, ensure "more responsive handling under icy or slippery conditions. The concept for this additional algorithm is based on patented knowledge gained from humanoid robotics research and development work."
Stability systems work by comparing what the driver intends, based largely on the steering wheel position, with what the car's actually doing. If it's not pointed as it should be, stability systems lightly apply the brakes on individual wheels to pivot the car into proper line.
The robotics-derived system speeds up the ability of the software to judge what the driver intends, making the whole anti-skid system work faster.
The automaker has drawn from the superfast balancing system it uses to keep its experimental humanoid robots from toppling as they walk for use in a stability system on the new, 2013 Acura ILX compact sedan.
The "face" of Honda's humanoid robotics research is a human-acting robot Honda calls Asimo. Honda foresees a time when Asimo and its ilk will be used as "companions" to people who'd otherwise need assisted living or live-in human helpers.
Asimo walks like a person, lifting its legs one at a time and bending at the knee, and has articulated arms and hands so it can, for example, open a jar of apple butter or a bottle of sports drink for someone whose grip or arm strength is limited.
First time you see Asimo demonstrated, you'll swear there's a person inside making it move like that. Asimo and other industrial robots show up now and then at robot exhibitions around the country; worth a visit.
The robotics-inspired vehicle stability, or anti-skid, system will, Acura says, ensure "more responsive handling under icy or slippery conditions. The concept for this additional algorithm is based on patented knowledge gained from humanoid robotics research and development work."
Stability systems work by comparing what the driver intends, based largely on the steering wheel position, with what the car's actually doing. If it's not pointed as it should be, stability systems lightly apply the brakes on individual wheels to pivot the car into proper line.
The robotics-derived system speeds up the ability of the software to judge what the driver intends, making the whole anti-skid system work faster.
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05-06-2012, 12:00 AM
#772
6G TLX-S
I just wish that the ASIMO tech can help Honda building more powerful engines first, then improving stability systems later.
05-06-2012, 12:11 AM
#773
Whats up with RDX owners?
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^Honda dedicated 95% of its resources to ESP.
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05-07-2012, 04:06 AM
#774
ahhh yes, what every auto enthusiast has been clamoring for from Acura - better skid control.
05-07-2012, 06:34 AM
#775
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....and has articulated arms and hands so it can, for example, open a jar of apple butter or a bottle of sports drink...
Can't wait to see the new ilx open that Grey Poupon!
05-07-2012, 09:31 PM
#776
Burning Brakes
It's a decent looking car. However, with it's specs I don't see who this can appeal to except women (25-35 year old) and those in their early 20s just out of college.
05-09-2012, 10:45 AM
#777
ILX is half a second faster than TSX with same 6MT transmission. TSX still have wider tires.
http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...acura-ilx.html
Acceleration
0-30 (sec): 2.7 (2.8 w/ TC on)
0-45 (sec): 4.6 (4.9 w/ TC on)
0-60 (sec): 7.1 (7.7 w/ TC on)
0-60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 6.8 (7.4 w/ TC on)
0-75 (sec): 10.5 (11.2 w/ TC on)
1/4-Mile (sec @ mph): 15.3 @ 91.6 (15.7 @ 88.5 w/ TC on)
Acceleration
0-30 (sec): 2.7 (2.8 w/ TC on)
0-45 (sec): 4.6 (4.9 w/ TC on)
0-60 (sec): 7.1 (7.7 w/ TC on)
0-60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 6.8 (7.4 w/ TC on)
0-75 (sec): 10.5 (11.2 w/ TC on)
1/4-Mile (sec @ mph): 15.3 @ 91.6 (15.7 @ 88.5 w/ TC on)
http://www.insideline.com/acura/tsx/...acura-tsx.html
If you're not into these sensory delights, though, chances are good you'll decide the TSX isn't quick enough. Its 7.7-second 0-60-mph time (7.2 seconds with 1 foot of rollout like on a drag strip) and 15.6-second quarter-mile at 89.8 mph are on par with the 2.0T-equipped Audi A4 and Volkswagen Passat, but the normally aspirated 2.4-liter's peaky power band isn't as friendly as the 2.0-liter turbo's flat torque curve.
If you're not into these sensory delights, though, chances are good you'll decide the TSX isn't quick enough. Its 7.7-second 0-60-mph time (7.2 seconds with 1 foot of rollout like on a drag strip) and 15.6-second quarter-mile at 89.8 mph are on par with the 2.0T-equipped Audi A4 and Volkswagen Passat, but the normally aspirated 2.4-liter's peaky power band isn't as friendly as the 2.0-liter turbo's flat torque curve.
05-09-2012, 10:47 AM
#778
^^you're on my ignore list, but that doesn't stop me from saying that you and whatever you said sucks.
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05-09-2012, 11:48 AM
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Hmmmm
Inside Line tests hundreds of vehicles a year. Cars, trucks, SUVs, we run them all, and the numbers always tell a story. With that in mind we present "IL Track Tested," a quick rundown of all the data we collect at the track, along with comments direct from the test drivers. Enjoy.
In our 1st Drive of the 2013 Acura ILX we wrote, "The 2013 Acura ILX is the smallest sedan in Acura's lineup since the Integra, but it's not a spiritual successor to that car." So it's not, but the ILX 2.4L model is a kissing cousin to the 2012 Honda Civic, complete with the Civic Si's 201-horsepower 2.4-liter inline-4 and slick 6-speed manual transmission.
Acura may be excited about the prospect of having a high-volume car that returns good fuel economy while still offering Acura levels of luxury, but we're excited to see what the new ILX does on our track when equipped with the hottest of its 3 engines.
Vehicle: 2013 Acura ILX 2.4L
Odometer:
Date: 5/8/2012
Driver: Chris Walton
Price: $30,095 (base price)
Specifications:
Drive Type: Front engine, front-wheel drive
Transmission Type: Six-speed manual
Engine Type: Naturally aspirated, port-injected inline-4
Displacement (cc/cu-in): 2,354/144
Redline (rpm): 7,000 (fuel cutoff at 7,200)
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 201 @ 7,000
Torque (lb-ft @ rpm): 170 @ 4,400
Brake Type (front): 11.8-inch ventilated discs with single-piston sliding calipers
Brake Type (rear): 10.2-inch solid discs with single-piston sliding calipers
Suspension Type(front): Independent MacPherson struts, coil springs, twin-tube dampers, stabilizer bar
Suspension Type (rear): Independent multilink, coil springs, twin-tube dampers, stabilizer bar
Tire Size (front): P215/45R17 (87V)
Tire Size (rear): P21545R17 (87V)
Tire Brand: Michelin
Tire Model: Pilot HX MXM4
Tire Type: All-season
As tested Curb Weight (lb): 2,954
Test Results:
Acceleration
0-30 (sec): 2.7 (2.8 w/ TC on)
0-45 (sec): 4.6 (4.9 w/ TC on)
0-60 (sec): 7.1 (7.7 w/ TC on)
0-60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 6.8 (7.4 w/ TC on)
0-75 (sec): 10.5 (11.2 w/ TC on)
1/4-Mile (sec @ mph): 15.3 @ 91.6 (15.7 @ 88.5 w/ TC on)
Braking
30-0 (ft): 30
60-0 (ft): 130
Handling
Slalom (mph): 65.5 (63.1 w/TC off)
Skid Pad Lateral acceleration (g): 0.83 (0.82 w/TC on)
Db @ Idle: 42.5
Db @ Full Throttle: 77.5
Db @ 70 mph Cruise: 65.6
Comments:
Acceleration: There's a sweet spot of wheelspin the ILX enjoys that is good for more than a half second in acceleration. Engine sounds sweet and there's no audible/visceral cam phase. Shifter is excellent, accurate, short and well-oiled. Clutch uptake is intuitive and smooth throughout pedal travel.
Braking: Very little initial bite and meaningful slowing begins from +/-40 mph to 0. Pedal is firm, but there's no power here. Linear fade in distance, yet pedal feel remained constant.
Handling:
Skid pad: With ESC off, the ILX goes into gentle yet stubborn understeer. Steering feedback changes very little with waning grip, and effort remains light-ish. With ESC on, it chopped throttle lightly below the car's true limit (prior to tire howl).
Slalom: I really like the steering: Friction free, just enough weight and good yaw reaction. Turns in predictably, tracks well, but the suspension is just a little reluctant in transitions and I end up "late" at the next cone(s) if I enter too hot. Best run is slow-in-fast-out with a small slide at exit and unweighted tire spinning free.
05-09-2012, 12:18 PM
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05-09-2012, 01:01 PM
#782
ssftsx - please let tsx69 do the posting of relevant materials. most of us have you on ignore and would've missed the mediocre performance as tested by Edmunds
05-22-2012, 06:25 AM
#783
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http://content.usatoday.com/communit...n-sale-today/1
Acura's new starter model -- the smaller cheaper ILX compact based on Honda Civic underpinnings -- goes on sale today, starting at $26,795 with shipping.
That's about four grand less than the currently least-expensive Acura, the TSX. The car is a little bigger and has different engines and interior from its humbler corporate sibling Civic.
Acura says it needs the new entry -- it calls it "gateway" -- model to attract Millennials looking to move up to a premium brand, but unable to pay the freight for the current models. It also faces new or updated premium starter-cars, such as BMW 1-Series, redone Audi A3, Mercedes-Benz A-Class, a rumored Infiniti below the G models.
Acura's ambitions for ILX, however, are grander, even groundbreaking:
"It will create a new segment," Michael Accavitti, VP of marketing for Acura in the U.S.
Accavitti says the new car won't downsize the Acura image, rather it's a return to the "sweet spot" carved out by the Integra when Acura was young. "We continue to look at Acura as the luxury brand it was created to be, an alternative to BMW and Audi and Infiniti."
We wonder why, though, if they wanted to revive our warm feelings for the old Integra, they didn't just revive the name for the new car.
TV launch ads for the ILX will wait until after the holiday. "Everybody's having a Memorial Day sale and we don't want to compete with that," says Accavitti.
The base engine seemed anemic to reviewer James R. Healey in a recent Test Drive, though Acura says the target younger buyers' won't care. Having grown up their parents' luxury cars, these folks want the snob appeal of the premium nameplate. "They put a higher priority on looking good than on going fast," Acura told Healey.
That's about four grand less than the currently least-expensive Acura, the TSX. The car is a little bigger and has different engines and interior from its humbler corporate sibling Civic.
Acura says it needs the new entry -- it calls it "gateway" -- model to attract Millennials looking to move up to a premium brand, but unable to pay the freight for the current models. It also faces new or updated premium starter-cars, such as BMW 1-Series, redone Audi A3, Mercedes-Benz A-Class, a rumored Infiniti below the G models.
Acura's ambitions for ILX, however, are grander, even groundbreaking:
"It will create a new segment," Michael Accavitti, VP of marketing for Acura in the U.S.
Accavitti says the new car won't downsize the Acura image, rather it's a return to the "sweet spot" carved out by the Integra when Acura was young. "We continue to look at Acura as the luxury brand it was created to be, an alternative to BMW and Audi and Infiniti."
We wonder why, though, if they wanted to revive our warm feelings for the old Integra, they didn't just revive the name for the new car.
TV launch ads for the ILX will wait until after the holiday. "Everybody's having a Memorial Day sale and we don't want to compete with that," says Accavitti.
The base engine seemed anemic to reviewer James R. Healey in a recent Test Drive, though Acura says the target younger buyers' won't care. Having grown up their parents' luxury cars, these folks want the snob appeal of the premium nameplate. "They put a higher priority on looking good than on going fast," Acura told Healey.
05-22-2012, 07:50 AM
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05-22-2012, 09:38 AM
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05-22-2012, 10:34 AM
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05-22-2012, 11:52 AM
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Autoweek review: "2013 Acura ILX offers performance and refinement"
Originally Posted by Autoweek
By: Bob Gritzinger on 5/21/2012
Acura's engineers will tell you that the vowel in ILX stands for inomama, a Japanese word for intuitive handling that roughly translates to “it does what we expect it to do” as a premium sports sedan.
Acura's marketers say the “I” stands for “intelligent,” and that's OK, too. With three distinct variants including a hybrid, there are enough choices to make every buyer of Acura's new entry-level premium sedan feel smart.
What Honda's uplevel brand managers aren't saying—but it's not much of a leap—is that the ILX represents the return of the beloved Integra, or at least a sedan version of the RSX that exited the lineup in 2006.
With a dose of Acura luxury and civility, the Civic-based ILX seems to be in a class by itself. The closest competitor at the moment might be Buick's Chevrolet Cruze-based Verano, at least until the Audi A3 sedan arrives in 2014. Interior appointments are upscale but not too dressy, with a dual-cockpit layout that employs bright analog gauges and emphasizes driver command. The exterior styling seems sporty, but, from some angles, there is an odd sort of frumpiness. There's a hint of the bulbous Honda Accord Crosstour bustle in the rear and a shade too much overhang out front, but otherwise, it's stylish.
The ILX comes in three flavors, an enthusiast-oriented 2.4-liter, 201-hp four with a six-speed manual transmission; a 2.0-liter, 150-hp four-cylinder model tied to a five-speed automatic transmission; and a hybrid fitted with the same 1.5-liter, 91-hp four-cylinder engine, 23-hp electric motor and continuously variable transmission as in the Civic hybrid, with some revisions.
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Enthusiast buyers should focus on the 2.4-liter four-cylinder with the six-speed manual gearbox. It really is the cream of the crop, with grippy handling and a well-balanced chassis, an eager high-revving engine and a near-perfect close-ratio gear set (shared with the TSX, but with revised lower ratios and a lower final drive ratio). The short shifter's precise, weighted feel makes flicking through the gears a delight, with the wide torque band making second or third the perfect gears for finessing through tight corners at speed with maximum powertrain control and balance.
“The ILX is optimized for single-gear driving,” said Takeshi Nakamura, chief engineer on the ILX. “We like driving in fun, manual-transmission vehicles, so we definitely had that idea in mind when we were developing this vehicle.”
Handling is so strong that it's hard to make the car understeer, even under power with considerable steering dialed in, which is surprising for a front-driver. But thanks to the 60/40 front/rear weight distribution, you can feel the back end starting to break loose just enough to allow a nice power slide. Ease off the power, and everything falls back into line, following the driving wheels wherever they are pointed.
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Acura's engineers will tell you that the vowel in ILX stands for inomama, a Japanese word for intuitive handling that roughly translates to “it does what we expect it to do” as a premium sports sedan.
Acura's marketers say the “I” stands for “intelligent,” and that's OK, too. With three distinct variants including a hybrid, there are enough choices to make every buyer of Acura's new entry-level premium sedan feel smart.
What Honda's uplevel brand managers aren't saying—but it's not much of a leap—is that the ILX represents the return of the beloved Integra, or at least a sedan version of the RSX that exited the lineup in 2006.
With a dose of Acura luxury and civility, the Civic-based ILX seems to be in a class by itself. The closest competitor at the moment might be Buick's Chevrolet Cruze-based Verano, at least until the Audi A3 sedan arrives in 2014. Interior appointments are upscale but not too dressy, with a dual-cockpit layout that employs bright analog gauges and emphasizes driver command. The exterior styling seems sporty, but, from some angles, there is an odd sort of frumpiness. There's a hint of the bulbous Honda Accord Crosstour bustle in the rear and a shade too much overhang out front, but otherwise, it's stylish.
The ILX comes in three flavors, an enthusiast-oriented 2.4-liter, 201-hp four with a six-speed manual transmission; a 2.0-liter, 150-hp four-cylinder model tied to a five-speed automatic transmission; and a hybrid fitted with the same 1.5-liter, 91-hp four-cylinder engine, 23-hp electric motor and continuously variable transmission as in the Civic hybrid, with some revisions.
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Enthusiast buyers should focus on the 2.4-liter four-cylinder with the six-speed manual gearbox. It really is the cream of the crop, with grippy handling and a well-balanced chassis, an eager high-revving engine and a near-perfect close-ratio gear set (shared with the TSX, but with revised lower ratios and a lower final drive ratio). The short shifter's precise, weighted feel makes flicking through the gears a delight, with the wide torque band making second or third the perfect gears for finessing through tight corners at speed with maximum powertrain control and balance.
“The ILX is optimized for single-gear driving,” said Takeshi Nakamura, chief engineer on the ILX. “We like driving in fun, manual-transmission vehicles, so we definitely had that idea in mind when we were developing this vehicle.”
Handling is so strong that it's hard to make the car understeer, even under power with considerable steering dialed in, which is surprising for a front-driver. But thanks to the 60/40 front/rear weight distribution, you can feel the back end starting to break loose just enough to allow a nice power slide. Ease off the power, and everything falls back into line, following the driving wheels wherever they are pointed.
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Not the best review in the world, and IDK about the comparison to the RSX or Integra, but at least it's less marketing drivel than USA Today.
05-23-2012, 06:54 PM
#791
I don't understand the undue hatred over the ILX. Over time people will get over it and eventually depending how truly good it is people will even buy it.
Meanwhile you don't really hear anyone bitching about the 1-series, A-Class, or A3. If you really want to see "doing it wrong" look no further than the G25.
Meanwhile you don't really hear anyone bitching about the 1-series, A-Class, or A3. If you really want to see "doing it wrong" look no further than the G25.
05-23-2012, 08:59 PM
#792
6G TLX-S
^^^^^
The main reason why Acura axed the RSX many years back, was because of the cheaply-priced RSX allowed a cheap entry ticket into the Acura brand, and this cheapened the overall Acura brand name.
Even though now the Acura brand image hasn't moved upscale an inch, there is really no need to bring the cheap entry price model back into the Acura brand, by further eroding what's little left of Acura's "mid-to-lower tier luxury" brand image.
On the other hand, most will rejoice and cheer at a $50K V8 RWD sedan or a $45K 350hp V6 sedan if such comes out from Acura.
Aim high, not aim low. The Acura brand need a serious boost to it's faltering premium brand image.
The main reason why Acura axed the RSX many years back, was because of the cheaply-priced RSX allowed a cheap entry ticket into the Acura brand, and this cheapened the overall Acura brand name.
Even though now the Acura brand image hasn't moved upscale an inch, there is really no need to bring the cheap entry price model back into the Acura brand, by further eroding what's little left of Acura's "mid-to-lower tier luxury" brand image.
On the other hand, most will rejoice and cheer at a $50K V8 RWD sedan or a $45K 350hp V6 sedan if such comes out from Acura.
Aim high, not aim low. The Acura brand need a serious boost to it's faltering premium brand image.
05-23-2012, 09:47 PM
#793
Honda Fanboy
^^^^^
The main reason why Acura axed the RSX many years back, was because of the cheaply-priced RSX allowed a cheap entry ticket into the Acura brand, and this cheapened the overall Acura brand name.
Even though now the Acura brand image hasn't moved upscale an inch, there is really no need to bring the cheap entry price model back into the Acura brand, by further eroding what's little left of Acura's "mid-to-lower tier luxury" brand image.
On the other hand, most will rejoice and cheer at a $50K V8 RWD sedan or a $45K 350hp V6 sedan if such comes out from Acura.
Aim high, not aim low. The Acura brand need a serious boost to it's faltering premium brand image.
The main reason why Acura axed the RSX many years back, was because of the cheaply-priced RSX allowed a cheap entry ticket into the Acura brand, and this cheapened the overall Acura brand name.
Even though now the Acura brand image hasn't moved upscale an inch, there is really no need to bring the cheap entry price model back into the Acura brand, by further eroding what's little left of Acura's "mid-to-lower tier luxury" brand image.
On the other hand, most will rejoice and cheer at a $50K V8 RWD sedan or a $45K 350hp V6 sedan if such comes out from Acura.
Aim high, not aim low. The Acura brand need a serious boost to it's faltering premium brand image.
Though the ILX is the new entry-level model, it's almost $7,000 more expensive than the base RSX and it's surely not going to attract the type of buyers that the RSX did.
Though not a single other luxury brand has a RWD V8 sedan in the lineup, I don't know how you expect Acura to have one. Most start from $60k+. Acura's image has been stagnant for the past five years; I wouldn't say it has gone up or down.
05-23-2012, 10:29 PM
#794
I did see this as their strategy, but that's sorta the problem. The market came to them, but they decided they didn't want that. I can understand that Acura wanted differentiation from Honda, but the disdain they've had for that segment of the population that actually wants them still befuddles me.
I don't think the ILX will do that bad though. It'll probably find a niche amongst older DINKS or retirees that want reliable (or illusion thereof), more upscale than other cars at that price point, and relatively cheap. They won't need a ton of space. It'll find its niche.
Not sure it'll be the demo that they are aiming at though....
I don't think the ILX will do that bad though. It'll probably find a niche amongst older DINKS or retirees that want reliable (or illusion thereof), more upscale than other cars at that price point, and relatively cheap. They won't need a ton of space. It'll find its niche.
Not sure it'll be the demo that they are aiming at though....
05-24-2012, 02:37 AM
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The base engine seemed anemic to reviewer James R. Healey in a recent Test Drive, though Acura says the target younger buyers' won't care. Having grown up their parents' luxury cars, these folks want the snob appeal of the premium nameplate. "They put a higher priority on looking good than on going fast," Acura told Healey.
Cadillac CTS-V, Lexus LS 460, Lexus IS-F, BMW 550/M5, BMW 750, Mercedes C63, Mercedes E550/E63,.............
05-24-2012, 04:53 AM
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05-24-2012, 06:23 AM
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05-24-2012, 09:09 AM
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05-24-2012, 11:25 AM
#800
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IMO, no sense in pondering the brand image, and making comparable analysis to the departure of the RSX.
....lets call this what is really is...
TSX pricing has been completely fudged by Acura. sales are good, profitablity poor. in a panic, acura pushed and pushed the TSX configuration (i.e. V6), to harp on its top selling model. now, they are left with an unideal market segment for other cars. the TSX I-4 pricing is almost too good to be true...and it is, acura isnt making money off of them. so buy em while you can. because this ILX is more of a resolution to a TSX cashflow problem, rather than a line-up re-strategy. youre basically getting the likes of a TSX in a smaller package (ILX) for a comparable price point. if only the general public knew!
....lets call this what is really is...
TSX pricing has been completely fudged by Acura. sales are good, profitablity poor. in a panic, acura pushed and pushed the TSX configuration (i.e. V6), to harp on its top selling model. now, they are left with an unideal market segment for other cars. the TSX I-4 pricing is almost too good to be true...and it is, acura isnt making money off of them. so buy em while you can. because this ILX is more of a resolution to a TSX cashflow problem, rather than a line-up re-strategy. youre basically getting the likes of a TSX in a smaller package (ILX) for a comparable price point. if only the general public knew!
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