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Old 01-30-2009, 02:44 PM
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And the grille.
Old 01-30-2009, 03:03 PM
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Man when I read this I was hoping for the accord tourer turned tsx
Old 01-30-2009, 03:03 PM
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Maybe a V6 in the RDX?
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Hmm. could be the 6spd MT TL SHAWD.
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Garanteed it's the VCM 6 banger TSX - perfect timing to keep those pissed about the TL within the Acura fold.
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
I predict its the V6 TSX
Since it's not the crossover vehicle, that sounds like a safe bet... They don't really have anything else in the pipe line...

I would love to be surprised by something tho'
Old 01-30-2009, 09:50 PM
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^^ Like what? a new transmission? HCCI dohc engine? forget it - hell didn't freeze
Old 01-30-2009, 11:08 PM
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Teh 450 HP Sooper Car formerly known as NSX?

Nah. That's dead.

But so was Frankenstein's monster.

Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!
Old 01-31-2009, 06:30 AM
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meh im not holding my breath for any thng good
Old 01-31-2009, 10:24 AM
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^^ werd

I'm more excited to see what the production version of the Cr-Z is going to look like than I am about anything that Acura is going to unveil.
Old 01-31-2009, 03:14 PM
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Gee.... you mean they didn't put all their futuristic thoughts and design genius into the 4G TL? They were holding something back?

Old 01-31-2009, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Xpditor
Gee.... you mean they didn't put all their futuristic thoughts and design genius into the 4G TL? They were holding something back?

lol, I was asking the same question when the ASC came out, but then Acura pulled the 4G TL lol! I think they have plenty of um "futuristic" design up thier sleeve
Old 02-01-2009, 12:19 AM
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I like the MDX and the new TSX but everything else is meh.

And since right now the TSX is FWD only, I wouldn't even consider it.

After seven months with my AWD S4, I'm not going back to FWD again.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I like the MDX and the new TSX but everything else is meh.

And since right now the TSX is FWD only, I wouldn't even consider it.

After seven months with my AWD S4, I'm not going back to FWD again.
maybe for a sedate, cheap daily like a Civic but otherwise and its really been that long already? 7 months? where is your update thread?!


not to bring it off-topic, I also predict a V6 TSX. I don't think its the new CUV, which undoubtedly in the pipeline but its been sighted on the streets as an Accord mule, so that tells me its not quite ready for production just yet. But who knows?
Old 02-02-2009, 01:00 PM
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I hope its another suv, im pumped!
Old 02-02-2009, 01:44 PM
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Exclamation Update

Acura Forges Ahead w/ Teir 1 Plans; NSX Could be Revived

Posted Today, 10:43 AM by Alex Kaufmann
The new Acura front-end design language has been polarizing


Apart from Lexus, Japanese luxury brands still pale in comparison to their German rivals in terms of the number of models they produce and the prices they can command. Overall image in the marketplace and status on the street have likewise proven difficult to develop. That's why Acura is making a hard push specifically to boost its image and achieve 'tier 1' luxury carmaker status.

The Acura plan for becoming top-tier doesn't focus on the cars, however. "Being a premium luxury brand is not just about product. It's the way dealers handle customers. You've got to earn your way into the segment. You don't necessarily have to have a $90,000 sedan to get there," said Dick Colliver, executive vice president of American Honda Motor Co. in an interview with Automotive News.

But that doesn't mean that new, better cars aren't part of the plan. In fact, the door remains open on whether the NSX will eventually see production. The car's development is "mostly done" according to Colliver, and that means it would be a quick move to market if given the green light. The reasoning behind dropping the NSX plan in the first place was largely centered around the weak economy and Honda's plans to cut costs. If the market turns around, there's no reason not to bring the NSX out of mothballs.

More every-day cars will be part of the brand push as well. Acura previously announced its intent to move toward tier 1 status at a dealer conference last year, and has since been working toward that with its new model run. The first of these new models include the RL and TSX sedans, plus the new - though oft-maligned - 2009 TL.

If Acura is really serious about competing with brands like BMW and Mercedes it will also likely need to more premium options such as RWD powertrains and high-output engines - both of which make a strong argument for revival of the NSX program.

The next model likely to come from Acura won't be a RWD sedan or a next-gen supercar, however. Instead, it is likely to be a mid-sized crossover, fitting between the current RDX (read our review here) and MDX.

Old 02-02-2009, 02:45 PM
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Sorry Acura, you're too late, I've already moved on as have many others.
Old 02-02-2009, 03:40 PM
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Acura = A Tease......and NOBODY likes a tease.
Old 02-02-2009, 03:58 PM
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Man i was really hoping for another suv cus thats what everyone wants
Old 02-02-2009, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
Sorry Acura, you're too late, I've already moved on as have many others.
+1 sadly
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they should have cut the nev CUV not the NSX.
Old 02-03-2009, 12:53 PM
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They don't need a CUV when they have sedans and SUV's...

Oh, and if Teir 1 hinges on dealers interaction with customers, they've lost the battle already. Both Acura dealers I've dealt with where terrible. I hate being lied to.... and the service (the actually work) was poor.
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The two Acura dealers I used to deal with were on par with the local Hyundai dealer.
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My dealer's been great. Been going there for 4 years now with no problem.
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Originally Posted by TSX69
Acura Forges Ahead w/ Teir 1 Plans; NSX Could be Revived

Posted Today, 10:43 AM by Alex Kaufmann
The new Acura front-end design language has been polarizing


Apart from Lexus, Japanese luxury brands still pale in comparison to their German rivals in terms of the number of models they produce and the prices they can command. Overall image in the marketplace and status on the street have likewise proven difficult to develop. That's why Acura is making a hard push specifically to boost its image and achieve 'tier 1' luxury carmaker status.

The Acura plan for becoming top-tier doesn't focus on the cars, however. "Being a premium luxury brand is not just about product. It's the way dealers handle customers. You've got to earn your way into the segment. You don't necessarily have to have a $90,000 sedan to get there," said Dick Colliver, executive vice president of American Honda Motor Co. in an interview with Automotive News.

But that doesn't mean that new, better cars aren't part of the plan. In fact, the door remains open on whether the NSX will eventually see production. The car's development is "mostly done" according to Colliver, and that means it would be a quick move to market if given the green light. The reasoning behind dropping the NSX plan in the first place was largely centered around the weak economy and Honda's plans to cut costs. If the market turns around, there's no reason not to bring the NSX out of mothballs.

More every-day cars will be part of the brand push as well. Acura previously announced its intent to move toward tier 1 status at a dealer conference last year, and has since been working toward that with its new model run. The first of these new models include the RL and TSX sedans, plus the new - though oft-maligned - 2009 TL.

If Acura is really serious about competing with brands like BMW and Mercedes it will also likely need to more premium options such as RWD powertrains and high-output engines - both of which make a strong argument for revival of the NSX program.

The next model likely to come from Acura won't be a RWD sedan or a next-gen supercar, however. Instead, it is likely to be a mid-sized crossover, fitting between the current RDX (read our review here) and MDX.

Latest news as of Feb 3rd is that Dick Colliver is stepping aside as Honda's sales boss. As a result his previous statements (as above) of Acura being forging ahead with Tier-1 plan is probably worth a grain of salt. This tells more about the future of Acura.
Old 02-03-2009, 09:37 PM
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Where did you hear that from? Even if he was stepping aside, that doesn't change the secret information regarding Acura that he knows about. It does nothing to the credibility of his words in this article.
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http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage?ws=uf

Colliver steps aside as Honda sales boss

imageDick Colliver, who joined American Honda Motor Co. just as a huge sales kickback scandal was threatening the company and who led Honda to consistent sales success for a decade and a half, has stepped aside as executive vice president of sales. Colliver will become senior adviser to the company effective April 1. » Read Article [REG] 5:40 pm U.S. ET | Feb. 3
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Member Vandy is reporting...

Acura had a conference call today with the dealers and we are being told that the 2010 TSX will be out in June/July with the 3.5 V6 and 280 horsepower. It will also have 18 inch wheels and a sportier styled front end, no word yet on the price. It is the "new car" that will be shown at the Chicago Auto Show and pictures will be available sometime next Wednesday afternoon.
The new crossover is likely to be shown at the New York Auto Show.
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The only website reporting that is Autonews. Whether it is or isn't true, it doesn't take credibility away from what he said. Why would it? Colliver is resigning so now Honda must change their plans so Dick doesn't know anything? Doesn't make sense.
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Hmm... That seems to contradict whats being reported on TOV regarding the production schedules. 280hp in a TSX would be nice though.
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Originally Posted by dom
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280hp and give me SH-AWD too in the TSX.
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Acura had a conference call today with the dealers and we are being told that the 2010 TSX will be out in June/July with the 3.5 V6 and 280 horsepower
...which totally contradicts what was said just a week ago that said the TSX production line will be idle till August (on which I called ).
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280hp and give me SH-AWD too in the TSX.
that front-end mod is a welcome change too, hopefully this time for the better!!
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Oh, and if Teir 1 hinges on dealers interaction with customers, they've lost the battle already. Both Acura dealers I've dealt with where terrible. I hate being lied to.... and the service (the actually work) was poor.
which dealer did you deal with so I know to avoid them...
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Acura = A Tease......and NOBODY likes a tease.
Agreed
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Originally Posted by Mokos23
280hp and give me SH-AWD too in the TSX.
If you want an overly heavy awd sedan with a V6, just get a TL

The TSX has gotten heavier without a v6 and sh-awd. I can only imagine what a pig it would be with those added...

The TL is almost 4000 lbs now... TSX is about 3500 lbs now... add the v6 and sh-awd and you'll be closer to 3800lbs... if not more...

If you put a v6 and sh-awd in the TSX, there'll be very little to separate the cars in acuras line up. All sedans, based on the same platform, with the same drivetrain. They will be different in size and price, but the TSX, TL, and RL will just be more of the same thing. Nothing really would differentiate the cars from each other.

I love the fact that they will have mulitlple engine options like they did on the 2G CL and TL's, but they really need to give people more of a reason to move up from a TSX to a TL or from a TL from an RL other than just the prestige that comes with the model badge.
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Originally Posted by savage
which dealer did you deal with so I know to avoid them...
Inskip and First Acura. First Acura wasn't that bad, so I'd give them another shot, but I'll never go back to Inskip.
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I don't think the weight is so much of a problem considering the Audi A3 3.2 Quattro is already at over 3700lb, and it's only a little hatchback.

At this moment, I doubt that they really care if the TL is too similar to the RL.

As for the TSX and TL being too similar, isn't it true for a lot of other cars too? Like the 3 vs 5, C vs E? I mean when I go to their websites and build them, most features that can be added to the 5 series and also be added to the 3. It's just that the jump in price and size from a 3 to a 5 is much bigger than from a TSX and TL. In fact, I think it's the prestige of BMW which enables them to price the 5 series much higher than the 3 series, and the same cannot be said about Acura. However, I feel that Acura is heading in that direction too. Obviously they can jack up the price of the TL from 34k to like 55k in one night, but they are taking small steps and it seems like eventually the TL will compete with 5 series and others.


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