stright-(paint)balling

i agree with this to a point. HOWEVER that 3.7 turns out a lot of hp for a v-6 stock.
if Honda was dead against offering a v-8 they could do one of a few options.
#1. higher compression (like 12 to 1 compression)
#2. turbo(this is my least favorite and Honda isn't hip on Turbos yes i know the RDX but i work at the plant that builds this engine just the line and planning for that line cause it's got a turbo on it been a cluster fuck. what most people don't know is EVERY RDX engine is built in 2 stages. the motor itself built on 2nd shift, the turbo,intercooler and all that shit(plumbing for the turbo) hung on 1st shift
#3. Supercharge a V-6. this is the option i like the best. if you remember the E55AMGs and all those cars yes it was a S/C v-8 . but still an amazing car

krio

agree about the compressor or the turbo, but only for the sedans.
The MDX needs however a V8 fuel or even better diesel, like the 4.2 TDI Adui Q7: big and fat Nm and less Hp...

Costco

That I know.... Honda itself has built V8, V10 and V12 F1 engines for DECADES now. Yet it has taken this long for a V8 to actually appear in one of their road cars, which is why I'm uncertain.



One thing I didn't see mentioned but is pretty much a given.... I assume they're going to develop an all-new transmission for the (I would hope longitudinal) V8, any guesses on how many speeds it'll have? Even Hyundai now is adding an 8-speed automatic to the option list for the Genesis.

If they're serious about it I don't see how Acura couldn't go to a mostly RWD lineup, unless they plan to waste a new engine/drivetrain in one car only a-la RDX, or unless they're going to adopt SH-AWD standard in all V8 models (oink oink)

I'm curious to see how Acura is going to pull this off. Definitely a new chassis and transmission.

dom

The spy pics posted of a stretched Frankenstein TSX were definitely a RWD based car.

This one....
http://www.leftlanenews.com/acura-rl-future.html

MeehowsBRZ

Acura=A joke to the luxury market. Even Hyundai has a V8 out now!!!

chill_dog

dom

Wow.

chill_dog

^Didn't see it coming, huh?

VTEC Racer

Calm down, everyone. This article has no credibility.

Do you honestly think the CEO of Honda would confirm that the next RL is coming out in 2010 or 2011? Shouldn't he know by now when it is coming out? Additionally, how does he know the 4th generation RL will be out in 2015 when he doesn't even know what year the 3rd generation is coming out?

I call BS.

Sclass88

Won't believe it until ToV confirms it... but I wouldn't say it's out of the question, it's very possible that Acura would delay it...

Moog-Type-S

...and the OP won't post this in the Acura V8 thread because......?

Fibonacci

http://www.motorauthority.com/acura-...-v8-power.html

Costco

Its now beginning to show up on other sites. And maybe he knows enough that Acura updates its models with a FMC every 5 years (TL, RL, TSX). and a MMC 3 years into the introduction of a new vehicle.... its been like that after a while. So, since the 2005 RL was released for the 2005 model year, its assumed that the 3G RL will be released for the 2010 model year. Then the 4G RL for the 2015 model year. You have a point though, who knows when sales of the RL are doing so poorly even though many consider it a nice car.

Acura. Advance....... scratch that


Acura. Overpromise and underdeliver.

biker

In these uncertain times, only the real mainline models/configurations are somewhat of a sure thing. Any other future model could be altered/postponed/cancelled at any time. No maker is immune. Everyone is watching their bottom line - if Honda doesn't think the V8 is worth it, even if it's ready to go, they won't take chances. The diesel for the TSX was even further along (they could release the 6MT at any time) than this V8 and look what happened to that.

dom

:ibmoveintoTeir1delayedforever:

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

Yea no kidding. I doubt Honda want to become the next GM, or Ford, or Chrysler. Hell, even the Corvette C7 is being delayed.

VTEC Racer

Those other websites that are reporting on it are the same bottom-of-the-barrel websites like Edmunds that all feed off of each other with the same "news" and just re-report it in their own words.

I just don't see an "Acura Executive" confirming something like this with such vague information. The RL has been on longer than a 5-year cycle. The first RL had a 9-year cycle.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

At least Acura (and Honda) is very advanced with safety. Most, if not all of their cars are ranked very high.

IMO, safety first, even for car enthusiats, then we can talk about performance, luxury, handling, etc. If the car can't even protect the occupants, what's the point of going fast? Accidents do happen.

fsttyms1

What the fuck is wrong with them. God damn...

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

dumb asses

Edward'TLS

Talking about future model alternation/postponement/cancellation. I suggest that the NSX replacement should be the first to go. If V8 is not worth it in today's dismay economy, let alone a V10. When even Porsche is feeling the pinch now, what chance does a unproven $100K+ Acura sport car have ?

dom

If nobody wants to be caught dead driving one it doesn't matter how safe they are.

Crazy Bimmer

Yes, im dying to buy a Volvo.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

lol come to think about it there aren't that many Volvo's on that safety list!

love099

why not taking cars that are not volvo?

biker

That annoucement could be right around the corner.

Edward'TLS

Good, that should allow Acura to redirect the R&D funds to immediately fix up that ugly looking TL grille.

Edward'TLS

I believe Crazy Acura wanted to say "if you want safety, buy a Volvo".

Back in the old days with the big, solid, and boxy 240, 740, 760 series, Volvo always associated itself with safety. Wherever you went and whatever you saw that has Volvo advertising, "safety" was always the main focus in the ads.

However, Volvo has evolved from an auto company building big RWD cars into one building small FWD cars, and safety is no longer their motto.

But for the older generations, the image "Volvo = safety" is always in the minds.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

Yea, Volvo is still = safety even in my mind!

TL1999

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=136746

Trackruner228

iTrader: (1)

Why is this not THAT suprising?

Moog-Type-S

Acura Advance

krio

ok, we don't need V8 any more.
hard times, you know.
then, please, do like BMW and Audi: give us supercharged or turbo V6, diesel and fuel!
I would appreciate driving an MDX 3.5Td, with 286hp and 600 Nm like the BMW3.5xd, or a TL with 330 hp, big Nm, 3.0 supercharged like the Audi S4...
not so hard for Honda getting such engines, if Nissan/Infiniti can, why Honda cannot??

TMQ

You know, I really don't see that big of a deal with the V8 delayed. Now is not the time to put $ into big gas guzzling V8s. From what I've read, the economic crisis is forcing every car companies to look at their long term strategic decisions really hard, and as some of them are fighting just to survive, companies like Honda will also have to think about its priorities and its future plans.

Despite all the criticism about Acura, I think Honda's risk averse attitude pays off during such difficult times. R&D money is better invested for bread and butter models from Civic, Accord to Fit, CR-V, etc. I would rather see money going to develop more efficient vehicles, AND with improvement in performance.

I'd rather see Honda developing twin turbos with V6s that can have similar fuel efficiency to their current V6s. The cylinder deactivation technology isn't really that great.

For the Acura lineup, I'd rather see RWD coupes and 1st gen TSX-size sedans.

Edward'TLS

Please remember that Honda loves to do things differently than all other auto makers. It's all about face.

krio

Moog-Type-S

But there lies the irony. For pretty much forever Honda/Acura has been repeating the mantra that we don't need a V8.

The rest of the automotive world was saying Honda is wrong.....and they are correct.

Honda then comes to terms that they were wrong and begins work on a V8.
....but day late and a dollar short. The worldwide economy forces Honda's hand.

Honda could have had an excellent V8 for over 10-15 years now....but no, it was to stubborn to do so when conditions were perfect for a V8.

The Acura line could have had a wonderful RWD V8 flagship for many years, but sadly they resorted to the same V6 engine for years, and the same 5AT for nearly a decade now.

TMQ

I think V8 and RWD are too different stories. Although they follow the same philosophy of being efficient, I think Honda/Acura could have developed the RWD format more easily and it could have had a much more significant impact on the brand than a V8.

Unfortunately they have decided to use the Accord FWD platform for years.

Moog-Type-S

^^ The point being that with a V8, RWD was a guarantee.

...and the RWD platform would have eventually moved down to the V6 vehicles in the line-up.

Without a V8, Acura had no reason to to produce a RWD platform.

fsttyms1

There is no reason a V8 couldn't be efficient