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Old 05-28-2020, 05:19 AM
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For me it better be faster than that car that's for sure
Q50 RS AWD starts at just over $56k. Are you prepared to spend that, to start, on a TLX Type-S?
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Can you tune a lease?
Can you tune a lease? Yes.
Are you allowed to? That's probably a No.

Has it ever stopped anyone from modifying a lease vehicle? No

Originally Posted by Mak P
Exactly so you can't tell me to brush off stock numbers... just tune it and make it better lol
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Lol Not at all. You don't actually own the car to be putting mods on it.
Just my opinion here,

You two don't seem like the type of enthusiasts most are here. If you're worried about messing with a car, lease it and leave it alone.
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Originally Posted by 04WDPSeDaN
Can you tune a lease? Yes.
Are you allowed to? That's probably a No.

Has it ever stopped anyone from modifying a lease vehicle? No





Just my opinion here,

You two don't seem like the type of enthusiasts most are here. If you're worried about messing with a car, lease it and leave it alone.
Never been a fan of leasing but to each their own. Powertrain wise I keep my vehicles stock and care more about reliability. If I want a faster car I go out and buy one. I have my mind set on the faster car and that's the Type S. That's where my money will go and I'll keep it stock.

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Never been a fan of leasing but to each their own. Powertrain wise I keep my vehicles stock and care more about reliability. If I want a faster car I go out and buy one.
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I would be surprised if the uptake for the 2.0T (the only one besides the 3.0T Type S) will be higher without the SH-AWD. In every review I watched (Alex on Autos, Everyman Driver, etc.), they noticed how much better the car with SH-AWD handles even when just on a winding road at around 60-70 mph.

Good thing Acura rationalized the number of offerings to just one 2.0T, well besides the Type S. Maybe because of the cost savings, we will get a lot of neat extras besides those we already know. Also, this 2nd gen TLX is forcing the car to go upmarket (power and available options) as the base offering would have similar power to the outgoing V6 if not better with the more aggressive programming of the 10AT. The 9 speed ZF seems to be where most of the complaints lie on the current TLX.

On another forum, someone was suggesting the looks were meh. This was the same person considering a Zupgra lol. There must be something wrong with his eyes. Any Acura product today and from the yesteryears look better than the new Toyota Zupra.

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People who look at a TLX and say "I'll get a Supra instead" aren't looking for nothing but attention. They're not even in the same class. Even performance wise they're in a completely different class. So if the TLX Type S is $60k and someone tells me "I'll get a Supra/Vette instead", I'll slap them.
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Originally Posted by Shadow2056
People who look at a TLX and say "I'll get a Supra instead" aren't looking for nothing but attention. They're not even in the same class. Even performance wise they're in a completely different class. So if the TLX Type S is $60k and someone tells me "I'll get a Supra/Vette instead", I'll slap them.
No, this guy is very knowledgeable with respect to cars but somehow is contradicting himself all the time.

He said he drove a NSX and it wasn't inspiring or fun to drive (and he thinks the Supra is better?) and he never mentioned the sticker price, which most of us can't afford lol. This was when I was talking to another very stuck up guy who labeled Acura vehicles as turds. I said I admit that they are all turds (just to play along) but most of us know the NSX can smoke most of the 911's and all the 918's out there (which he says are among the best handling cars in its class). I guess this other fellow is driving a sub-turd then because he kinda shut up after I responded to his quip remarks. All I said was not to crap on the 2TLX thread I created there lol (I did ridicule him about buying cars that he keeps complaining about after the purchase). He likes to troll automotive discussions and brag about his P car lol. Some people based their self-worths on the cars they drive lol.

The Supra's been called by C/D the creature from the deep sea. I wouldn't buy one because it looks uglier than almost any car I've seen on the road and it's a two-seater too so it's not practical for a family of four.

That's the problem with the Japanese, they can't seem to come to the right design language and then just make slight iterations for the next gen, like Audi does. Hopefully this TLX is a sign of what is to be the long-term design language of Acura.

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So far, I'm liking everything I've seen and read about the 2G TLX, DWB, turbo for both motors, great exterior styling, interior is typical of latest Acura's for center stackup,
I'm assuming the 2G will get the J motor V6 (which at 24 years old is getting long despite the updates )replacement so curious how'll that will be in details (continuous valve timing?, 60o V angle?, DI only or dual injection like Toyota,....).
First time in a long time since I've been excited to see a new Acura unveiling.
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Originally Posted by Legend2TL
So far, I'm liking everything I've seen and read about the 2G TLX, DWB, turbo for both motors, great exterior styling, interior is typical of latest Acura's for center stackup,
I'm assuming the 2G will get the J motor V6 (which at 24 years old is getting long despite the updates )replacement so curious how'll that will be in details (continuous valve timing?, 60o V angle?, DI only or dual injection like Toyota,....).
First time in a long time since I've been excited to see a new Acura unveiling.

More than likely no longer a J series and is on a completely new series of it's own. As leaked (not 100% confirmed)
– 3.0L turbo
– 60 Degree layout
– DOHC/chain driven
– Full Continuous VTEC (all new VTEC system)
– Hybrid Turbo System (48 volt system) AKA E-Turbo setup.
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Originally Posted by internalaudit
I would be surprised if the uptake for the 2.0T (the only one besides the 3.0T Type S) will be higher without the SH-AWD. In every review I watched (Alex on Autos, Everyman Driver, etc.), they noticed how much better the car with SH-AWD handles even when just on a winding road at around 60-70 mph.

Good thing Acura rationalized the number of offerings to just one 2.0T, well besides the Type S. Maybe because of the cost savings, we will get a lot of neat extras besides those we already know. Also, this 2nd gen TLX is forcing the car to go upmarket (power and available options) as the base offering would have similar power to the outgoing V6 if not better with the more aggressive programming of the 10AT. The 9 speed ZF seems to be where most of the complaints lie on the current TLX.

On another forum, someone was suggesting the looks were meh. This was the same person considering a Zupgra lol. There must be something wrong with his eyes. Any Acura product today and from the yesteryears look better than the new BMW Zupra.
What do you expect when the leaked photos of the TLX are such crap resolution and distorted.. It's hard to capture the design in full detail. I do agree with the other poster, the Supra is in it's own class but I can see what he was getting at. More than likely to do with the price bracket vs overall performance and looks. The supra doesn't look all that terrible (can be improved with exterior upgrades). I will briefly touch on the subject about driving dynamics vs the person behind the wheel. Everyone has their own opinion about how a vehicle drives and performs. You see this often with many different youtubers reviews. When I rented a Lamborghini Gallardo for my wedding, sure it was fun, engine tone was incredible and pretty quick. After the "excitement" wears off, my perspective changed. For me, not a vehicle I would daily. It got uncomfortable after two hours and other certain things I started not to like. I'd expect the same for anyone that drove the NSX to rave about it and maybe with more time behind the wheel their perspective to change a bit. Some feel the newer stuff isn't it for them, mostly automatic vs manual. Some like the rumble of a big block V8 over a smaller turbo engine. Take it for what it's worth, only opinion that truly matters is your own.
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Originally Posted by 04WDPSeDaN
What do you expect when the leaked photos of the TLX are such crap resolution and distorted.. It's hard to capture the design in full detail. I do agree with the other poster, the Supra is in it's own class but I can see what he was getting at. More than likely to do with the price bracket vs overall performance and looks. The supra doesn't look all that terrible (can be improved with exterior upgrades). I will briefly touch on the subject about driving dynamics vs the person behind the wheel. Everyone has their own opinion about how a vehicle drives and performs. You see this often with many different youtubers reviews. When I rented a Lamborghini Gallardo for my wedding, sure it was fun, engine tone was incredible and pretty quick. After the "excitement" wears off, my perspective changed. For me, not a vehicle I would daily. It got uncomfortable after two hours and other certain things I started not to like. I'd expect the same for anyone that drove the NSX to rave about it and maybe with more time behind the wheel their perspective to change a bit. Some feel the newer stuff isn't it for them, mostly automatic vs manual. Some like the rumble of a big block V8 over a smaller turbo engine. Take it for what it's worth, only opinion that truly matters is your own.
Look, I'm only talking about the exterior.

Only the Supra's Mother thinks it is handsome. To anyone who thinks otherwise, they probably like the Supra's performance/overall packaging/comfort and will discount/ignore the Supra's sea creature looks.

Name me a modern coupe that looks fuglier on the outside.

Supra looking good only in black or really dark colors mean something.

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Originally Posted by Legend2TL
So far, I'm liking everything I've seen and read about the 2G TLX, DWB, turbo for both motors, great exterior styling, interior is typical of latest Acura's for center stackup,
I'm assuming the 2G will get the J motor V6 (which at 24 years old is getting long despite the updates )replacement so curious how'll that will be in details (continuous valve timing?, 60o V angle?, DI only or dual injection like Toyota,....).
First time in a long time since I've been excited to see a new Acura unveiling.
My guess will be direct injection. From my time on a Type R forum, Honda has somehow figured out how to have direct injection without suffering from carbon buildup in the K20C1.
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Allright, i'm about to go get a meatball or hook and ladder from firehouse subs and i'm gonna come back here. I expect to see greatness. I wonder what color the debut car will be.

Also, i expect 647 horsepowers or disappoint.
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Some one already posted better pictures in TLX group on Facebook.
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I was thinking about the Q50 Red Sport but the infotainment software is dated
It works fine, it has navigation That works pretty good, Bluetooth etc. I got the car because it’s pretty fast and drives good and looks good IMO. I could care less about infotainment. I think all that extra crap is useless in a car . I get cars to drive and enjoy the driving not to tinker with electronics.
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I will say this.

Happy they are using real exhaust tips and not an integrated setup.
Nice touch to have both calipers matching in color
Nice that it comes with front and rear diffusers.
Blacked out exterior items like mirrors, spoiler, window trims ect.

Things that I'm not too thrilled about

No pano sun roof and more than likely no digital gauge cluster.
fog lights looks optional for the type-s?
The passenger side of the dashboard looks very odd.
The red Type-s has fogs and chrome window trims and grill, while the others have no fogs and black trim? Not sure if these are a separate trim level of the type-s. Also noticed the red one has a slightly different front diffuser than the others.

Needless to say, it's still too early to know all the details. Would love to see a proper walk around with details of the vehicle.

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Originally Posted by 04WDPSeDaN
I will say this.

Happy they are using real exhaust tips and not an integrated setup.
Nice touch to have both calipers matching in color
Nice that it comes with front and rear diffusers.
Blacked out exterior items like mirrors, spoiler, window trims ect.

Things that I'm not too thrilled about

No pano sun roof and more than likely no digital gauge cluster.
fog lights looks optional for the type-s?
The passenger side of the dashboard looks very odd.
The red Type-s has fogs and chrome window trims and grill, while the others have no fogs and black trim? Not sure if these are a separate trim level of the type-s. Also noticed the red one has a slightly different front diffuser than the others.

Needless to say, it's still too early to know all the details. Would love to see a proper walk around with details of the vehicle.
I agree. They should send a car over to one of the reviewers while they are home. (i.e. Redline Reviews, Alex on Autos, etc..)
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Look forward to the announcement! I'm really looking forward to checking out the 4L turbo in the TLX, and seeing what that drives like. As well, I am super excited about the V6 , but don't know if I can afford the type S....
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i am impressed, it looks amazing!
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Cached article by Motor1 that looks to be taken down.

"The TLX arrives later this year, followed in early 2021 by the Type S"
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It's not a live reveal.
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"A Type S model is coming next spring with a turbocharged 3.0-liter V-6 that is expected to make 350 horsepower."
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"A Type S model is coming next spring with a turbocharged 3.0-liter V-6 that is expected to make 350 horsepower."

If you read further down in the article is says that they're expecting MORE than 350 hp. Fingers crossed.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...n-photos-info/

"A Type S model is coming next spring with a turbocharged 3.0-liter V-6 that is expected to make 350 horsepower."
Dang...was expecting 400 hp.
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Originally Posted by 04WDPSeDaN
I will say this.

Happy they are using real exhaust tips and not an integrated setup.
Nice touch to have both calipers matching in color
Nice that it comes with front and rear diffusers.
Blacked out exterior items like mirrors, spoiler, window trims ect.

Things that I'm not too thrilled about

No pano sun roof and more than likely no digital gauge cluster.
fog lights looks optional for the type-s?
The passenger side of the dashboard looks very odd.
The red Type-s has fogs and chrome window trims and grill, while the others have no fogs and black trim? Not sure if these are a separate trim level of the type-s. Also noticed the red one has a slightly different front diffuser than the others.

Needless to say, it's still too early to know all the details. Would love to see a proper walk around with details of the vehicle.
The red one looks to be an "Advance" trim level I believe, with maybe a black wheel/mirror appearance package?



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If you read further down in the article is says that they're expecting MORE than 350 hp. Fingers crossed.
Weird to say that because then they'd be making 355hp or something. . .
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Originally Posted by 04WDPSeDaN
I will say this.

Happy they are using real exhaust tips and not an integrated setup.
Nice touch to have both calipers matching in color
Nice that it comes with front and rear diffusers.
Blacked out exterior items like mirrors, spoiler, window trims ect.

Things that I'm not too thrilled about

No pano sun roof and more than likely no digital gauge cluster.
fog lights looks optional for the type-s?
The passenger side of the dashboard looks very odd.
The red Type-s has fogs and chrome window trims and grill, while the others have no fogs and black trim? Not sure if these are a separate trim level of the type-s. Also noticed the red one has a slightly different front diffuser than the others.

Needless to say, it's still too early to know all the details. Would love to see a proper walk around with details of the vehicle.


From what I've gathered from the videos.

The red TLX is not a type-s which answers the question about the trim and fogs being different. Red one seems to be the A-spec version or advance trim.
Excited to see they did use leather on the dashboard and nearly everywhere else. This is a really nice touch.
Confirmed my theory on a few things which included 4 piston brembo up front and a retuned 10 speed transmission and SH-AWD.
Also confirmed my theory of the base models having FWD and AWD configurations and AWD only for the Type-s with a more aggressive setup.
Confirmed no digital cluster and pano roof, which isn't a big deal but a nice option if available.
I wonder why they didn't get into any of the details of the 3.0T engine?
I believe it will have enhanced engine sounds (as most every other brand does now)
Looks like the type-s will NOT have lower foglights, which is fine because the M340i doesn't either unless you buy 330 or the 330 with M-sport bumpers.

Huge step forward for Acura. As someone else mentioned about 350 hp, it's only a number. Remember the Germans way underrate their numbers, this could be the same deal.
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While it's still not official yet, I'd indicated quite some time ago that I didn't expect anywhere near 400hp. Without going through the work of digging for one of my old posts, I think I'd stated that Type S models haven't been dramatically better performers than the regular premium models.
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interesting tech
cast aluminum front strut towers
same electric stepper motor master cylinder brake setup as the 2G NSX, brake by wire
adaptive shocks

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I saw the video. No pricing, no Type S power numbers. Boooooooooo. Obviously, they are not done yet.

The looks are great, the dedicated sport platform is great, the user-modifiable drive features are great, the interior looks great, but the most important stuff was left out of the reveal. At first glance, the car seems fantastic. However, without data or time until on sale, I’m not ready to put my low-mileage Accord up for sale.
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Edmunds already has an in-depth video.
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Acura Press Release

https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases...essive-styling
Old 05-28-2020, 12:38 PM
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Another look at it:
Old 05-28-2020, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...n-photos-info/

"A Type S model is coming next spring with a turbocharged 3.0-liter V-6 that is expected to make 350 horsepower."
Originally Posted by a35tl
If you read further down in the article is says that they're expecting MORE than 350 hp. Fingers crossed.
Originally Posted by CaliAtenza
Dang...was expecting 400 hp.
From the Article

"Horsepower and torque numbers of the top TLX and its new turbocharged 3.0-liter V-6 have not yet been revealed, but we're expecting more than 350 horsepower and 350 lb-ft of torque. A single twin-scroll turbo pressurizes the DOHC V-6, but other than that we'll have to wait a few more months for more details. "

At this point it's anyone's guess, however one thing I want to point out is that they are assuming it will have a single twin scroll turbo, which makes logical sense, but for this vehicle, I'm still firm on a single E-turbo setup.
Old 05-28-2020, 12:39 PM
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Have to see in person. The quick video flashes of it driving around from the rear just looked like a big ILX to me.
Old 05-28-2020, 12:40 PM
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I see one still has to finger the car to change gears like fingering ones woman.... Guess my TSX wont be going anywhere anytime soon. My VFII Commodore has 415hp & 415 lb⋅ft torque and the joy of rowing all 6 gears to the rear wheels. Once again Acura misses the mark! Would love to see a head to head with this against the Kia Stinger.
Old 05-28-2020, 12:41 PM
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That 3L V6 should be making at least 400HP in order to be able to compete with rivals like BMW and Mercedes.


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