When do you think the next gen TL (TLX) will be released?
06-23-2013, 08:33 PM
#441
Drifting
It's all about the Acura flagship sedan - the RLX.
Because Honda knows (the limitations of) it's vehicles well.
The new FWD RLX was launched in the Spring of this year, and the AWD RLX will be arriving in the Fall of this year.
The new RLX is already not selling well. So if the new TLX is also being launched this year, it will fuck up the RLX sales even more, especially it's between the AWD RLX and the AWD TLX.
So it is wise for Honda to delay the new TLX by at least a year to the calender year 2014, in order to give the RLX some breathing room.
Because Honda knows (the limitations of) it's vehicles well.
The new FWD RLX was launched in the Spring of this year, and the AWD RLX will be arriving in the Fall of this year.
The new RLX is already not selling well. So if the new TLX is also being launched this year, it will fuck up the RLX sales even more, especially it's between the AWD RLX and the AWD TLX.
So it is wise for Honda to delay the new TLX by at least a year to the calender year 2014, in order to give the RLX some breathing room.
06-23-2013, 08:53 PM
#442
Just a few comments on this subject. I just came out of a 2010 TL SH-AWD - Tech and into a 2014 AWD RDX- Tech. My Wife has the 2011 RDX SH-AWD - Tech. Firstly I loved my TL interior and was pleased to see the RDX's was similar. Let me just tell all of you who have not driven the new RDX, the interior quality, especially over the 2011 RDX is night and day. It is refined, clean,quiet, fit and finish is tremendous. Acura has kicked it up a notch, to me closer to Lexus quality. This is the quietest Acura I have ever had. The best part is the cost is about the same as the 2011 RDX. Granted the new RDX does not have the SH-AWD, but to tell you the truth, I don't know if I will miss it.They also have gotten away from the chrome exhaust extenders, which I liked, especially on my 2010 TL's quads, but again it does not matter? The new RDX is very good looking with a nice beak.
I am sure the new TL will step it up too. I saw the new RLX, which is very nice, but to me It is not in the Lexus class for a similar vehicle.
My last point is, with the new Accord already out I think late last year, but I cannot be sure, why would they be waiting until late this year for the new TL?
I am sure the new TL will step it up too. I saw the new RLX, which is very nice, but to me It is not in the Lexus class for a similar vehicle.
My last point is, with the new Accord already out I think late last year, but I cannot be sure, why would they be waiting until late this year for the new TL?
06-24-2013, 09:07 PM
#443
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Spied
Date: June 24, 2013 21:31
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Ben was cruising through Death Valley over the weekend and spotted some BMW i8s being tested. Intrigued, he followed them into a parking lot and found a group of Honda and Acura(?) test mules along with a new 2014 MDX. 1 of them appears to be some sort of Accord V6 variant, but this heavily camo'd 1 could be an early mule for the 2015 Acura TLX.
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06-24-2013, 11:36 PM
#445
Maybe just my imagination but if it is the TL or TLX, seems like it could be the 4G meets the 3G with 4G like width, height, and wheel arches, a 3G like silhouette, particularly in bumpers, ILX like rear taillights, side crease like the Accord's, and the new front grill theme with a similar headlight design as the current but with the jewel led treatment but that's just a guess, could be an Accord mule testing eSH for all I know.
06-25-2013, 03:39 AM
#446
Summer is Coming
It's all about the Acura flagship sedan - the RLX.
Because Honda knows (the limitations of) it's vehicles well.
The new FWD RLX was launched in the Spring of this year, and the AWD RLX will be arriving in the Fall of this year.
The new RLX is already not selling well. So if the new TLX is also being launched this year, it will fuck up the RLX sales even more, especially it's between the AWD RLX and the AWD TLX.
So it is wise for Honda to delay the new TLX by at least a year to the calender year 2014, in order to give the RLX some breathing room.
Because Honda knows (the limitations of) it's vehicles well.
The new FWD RLX was launched in the Spring of this year, and the AWD RLX will be arriving in the Fall of this year.
The new RLX is already not selling well. So if the new TLX is also being launched this year, it will fuck up the RLX sales even more, especially it's between the AWD RLX and the AWD TLX.
So it is wise for Honda to delay the new TLX by at least a year to the calender year 2014, in order to give the RLX some breathing room.
TOV:
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2015 Acura TLX?
Spied on the Streets?
2015 Acura TLX?
Date: June 24, 2013 21:31
Submitted by: JeffX
Source: Ben Cheah
Credibility Rating: Not Specified
Ben was cruising through Death Valley over the weekend and spotted some BMW i8s being tested. Intrigued, he followed them into a parking lot and found a group of Honda and Acura(?) test mules along with a new 2014 MDX. 1 of them appears to be some sort of Accord V6 variant, but this heavily camo'd 1 could be an early mule for the 2015 Acura TLX. Submitted by: JeffX
Source: Ben Cheah
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I've been looking at the new IS which is almost exactly the same size as my now very old TSX and I'm liking it very much. This car is tops on my list. Acura will have to work to take its place.
06-25-2013, 05:34 AM
#447
Suzuka Master
Maybe just my imagination but if it is the TL or TLX, seems like it could be the 4G meets the 3G with 4G like width, height, and wheel arches, a 3G like silhouette, particularly in bumpers, ILX like rear taillights, side crease like the Accord's, and the new front grill theme with a similar headlight design as the current but with the jewel led treatment but that's just a guess, could be an Accord mule testing eSH for all I know.
06-25-2013, 09:11 AM
#448
06-25-2013, 09:13 AM
#449
Suzuka Master
Agreed Keith. I don't what to think about that. I drove a 2014 IS and it's really nice. I'm tempted but the pragmatist in me will win out -- I ain't paying no full boat + premium to be a beta tester for Lexus -- I think. I can never know when I'll get obsessed and have to have new tech in a new car.
06-25-2013, 11:01 AM
#450
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Just saw a Motor Trend test Caddy vs RLX & the RLX got the overall win on points. Thing that was eye popping was the $62K MSRP price on the FWD RLX. I thought the AWD version was going to be in that price range. The Caddy was also about $62K.
06-25-2013, 12:07 PM
#451
6G TLX-S
The Acura product launch planning was done years ago, with the intention that the TLX would not step on the RLX's toes during the latter's 1st year of launching.
It is also wise to spread out new vehicle launches, such that the best scenario is to launch 1 new vehicle every year, in order to keep the auto brand fresh and in the news spotlight.
Manufacturing a new model is not a child's play, and every processes (such as development, testing, component procurement, factory production scheduling, launch preparation, etc.) have been carefully planned out in a fixed timetable years ago.
So no matter how bad (or how well) the RLX is selling, there is just nothing Acura can do to speed up releasing the TLX into the market.
06-25-2013, 01:33 PM
#452
Burning Brakes
Looking at those spy shots, I bet it's the SH-AWD version of the RLX. Car looks too big to be a TL(X).
Mehhh, sounds about right considering it's Acura's flagship model. Realisitically, it will sell for mid to high $50K. We can all agree cars these days are expensive.
Mehhh, sounds about right considering it's Acura's flagship model. Realisitically, it will sell for mid to high $50K. We can all agree cars these days are expensive.
06-25-2013, 06:37 PM
#453
TL 2012 SH-AWD TECH/UMBER
Did you see on the facebook page of acura, an image with angel eyes on left side and a human eyes on the other. For me the lights seems to be those of MDX but may be it was a teasing for TLX
06-25-2013, 06:42 PM
#454
Pro
Yes that's the MDX, Acura would never tease us with a photo like that unless they are about to unveil something new.
06-25-2013, 07:12 PM
#455
I am sure Acura is having lots of fun at reading all the speculations here and on TOV. I am on the side of "this is the TLX" being tested rather than the RLX. It seems too small to be the RLX but I could be wrong. I know we can't hang out hat on these prototypes as far as wheel designs but when we go back, they were actually the production wheels so I am a bit nervous as these look hideous in my mind.
The excitement begins....
The excitement begins....
06-25-2013, 08:15 PM
#457
Suzuka Master
There is also the possibility that they show the car in November with a January on sale date so they don't have to make any 14 TL or TSX and don't have to drag 13 out longer than necessary.
06-25-2013, 08:39 PM
#458
Advanced
This is very probable. I'm hoping that they show a near-production "prototype" version of the TLX in November 2013 (LA Auto Show) and then reveal the production-ready version in January 2014 (Detroit Auto Show) and then release it for sale after a month or two.
06-25-2013, 09:23 PM
#459
Pro
I sure hope you guys are right on the money about this being a TLX. It does seem to have some 4G characteristics. I honestly dont think it is a TLX, too me I think its a RLX Hybrid. Reason which makes believe this is 1. By the looks of the person inside the car it seems RLX sized. 2. Looking at the picture with the door open and looking down the sheet-metal of the door it really has RLX lines. Also the fenders seem to have that curvy motion that follow into the doors. Lots of people have pointed out some differences which I do see, just seems to me this is a larger car then we were expecting. Either way im ready for the wrap to come off.
06-26-2013, 01:25 AM
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Was looking through the sales numbers & had to go back & check this one out twice. Ford sold 71,604 F-150's in May.
06-26-2013, 02:49 AM
#461
Summer is Coming
06-26-2013, 02:57 AM
#462
Summer is Coming
I think these cars (in camo) are the TLX. The dash does not appear like the RLX. And why would they camo the RLX just for the SH-SH-AWD? The car is for sale, there is no secret any longer. One of the TLX's may be the FWD and he other RWD? But they do have very similar lines to the 4G. I'm not sure that is a good sign. It could mean the car is just a slight update to the 4G.
I'm looking for signs on the folding rear seats... come on Acura, surprise me!!!!
I'm looking for signs on the folding rear seats... come on Acura, surprise me!!!!
06-26-2013, 03:30 AM
#463
Summer is Coming
06-26-2013, 05:30 AM
#464
Suzuka Master
So if we look back to the 4G, spy shots started surfacing around June/July of 2008 with an on sale date that fall, so I can see a January 1 on sale date to allow them to release it as a 2015. Unless they announce something in the next 30-60 days I have other options lined up already and will wait for the TLX MMC maybe.
06-26-2013, 07:14 AM
#466
According to TOV, a very reliable poster there (HONDA AFVM) has been able to confirm with his source that the picsture are NOT the RLX but indeed the TLX. He was told that this is intended to create an optical illusion but that the TLX will not be an evolution of the 4G, for those who didn't like the current generation. This is exciting, almost feel as if I am seeing the first ultrasound of my baby *lol*
06-26-2013, 08:46 AM
#468
Burning Brakes
If it is indeed the TLX, I don't see exposed exhaust tips. No bueno man. I hope Acura will offer a 6MT w/ the SH-AWD version at least. I'll likely get the MMC if that's the case. Eager to see more spy shots. 
06-26-2013, 09:04 AM
#469
Mystery over - http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...os-future-cars
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06-26-2013, 10:40 AM
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2010 TL AWD 6MT: New King
Mystery over - http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...os-future-cars
The rear bumper in the mystery pics is also "angular and pointy" which IMHO suggests the camouflaged vehicle is indeed likely the TLX.
06-26-2013, 11:01 AM
#474
Pro
According to TOV, a very reliable poster there (HONDA AFVM) has been able to confirm with his source that the picsture are NOT the RLX but indeed the TLX. He was told that this is intended to create an optical illusion but that the TLX will not be an evolution of the 4G, for those who didn't like the current generation. This is exciting, almost feel as if I am seeing the first ultrasound of my baby *lol*
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06-26-2013, 11:55 AM
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06-26-2013, 12:08 PM
#477
All speculation on my part but it looks like they already have the engine choices, the 290 from the MDX in the FWD and the 310 from the RLX in the SH. I think they keep the mechanical SH as the RLX needs something more to distinguish itself (distancing the lineup is the main objective here) which would almost garauntee a 6MT return.
Expect the same treatment as the RDX and MDX (and to an extent the RLX), weight savings, improved fuel economy, increased comfort and noise reduction, a bit more interior space with emphasis put on the trunk and it's use and the same type of new available tech and implementation.
Expect the same treatment as the RDX and MDX (and to an extent the RLX), weight savings, improved fuel economy, increased comfort and noise reduction, a bit more interior space with emphasis put on the trunk and it's use and the same type of new available tech and implementation.
06-26-2013, 12:22 PM
#478
06-26-2013, 12:23 PM
#479
All speculation on my part but it looks like they already have the engine choices, the 290 from the MDX in the FWD and the 310 from the RLX in the SH. I think they keep the mechanical SH as the RLX needs something more to distinguish itself (distancing the lineup is the main objective here) which would almost garauntee a 6MT return.
Expect the same treatment as the RDX and MDX (and to an extent the RLX), weight savings, improved fuel economy, increased comfort and noise reduction, a bit more interior space with emphasis put on the trunk and it's use and the same type of new available tech and implementation.
Expect the same treatment as the RDX and MDX (and to an extent the RLX), weight savings, improved fuel economy, increased comfort and noise reduction, a bit more interior space with emphasis put on the trunk and it's use and the same type of new available tech and implementation.
06-26-2013, 03:21 PM
#480
Instructor
Good one "ultrasound of my baby" ... I say that is the TLX . Looking at the size of the vehicle and some interior designs. I wonder what the engine options will be??
. Looking at the size of the vehicle and some interior designs. I wonder what the engine options will be??According to TOV, a very reliable poster there (HONDA AFVM) has been able to confirm with his source that the picsture are NOT the RLX but indeed the TLX. He was told that this is intended to create an optical illusion but that the TLX will not be an evolution of the 4G, for those who didn't like the current generation. This is exciting, almost feel as if I am seeing the first ultrasound of my baby *lol*
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