motegi

I see where you are coming from. But for whatever reason Honda has chosen to make the Accord even more roomy inside than their flagship Acura RLX. The TLX is significantly smaller inside by comparison to both of those cars.

So I suppose that they added the premium features and shrunk it down a bit to make it more sporty/thrilling/etc, perhaps... Much as the TLX vs TL I think we are seeing a totally different car in the TLX vs Accord aimed at a different category.

Either way for near/entry luxury EPA compact sedan class it does still compare quite favorably on paper to its german and other japanese competitors.

P.S. I did drive the current Accord V6 Touring several times recently when making the rounds in search of my wifes new car and it was very nice but the interior materials and design (in particular in the back seat) were not quite up to "luxury" level in my opinion. Still it was very roomy, the tech was there, and it drove very well... enough to put as #2 on my wife's list of about a dozen new cars.

bnilhome

I think you guys both have valid points. Like many things, cars are about form and function, and for me, the function is like a must have for me to buy a car. Key "function" items include quality, reliability, handling, decent fuel efficiency, AND....interior roominess. Form is really the design of the car, the asthetics, the bells and whistles. When the new Accord came out in 2013, it was an amazing feat in my mind. They managed to shrink the overall size of the Accord, yet make the interior and 2nd row room larger. They also vastly improved the exterior design so its a very lean and fit looking machine. Given how well this was done, I assumed the new TLX would do something similar, but am just shocked that the designers screwed up one major function item big time....interior roominess. That is not something you even consider messing with in my opinion. Maybe they are counting on TLX drivers being single and never having anybody sit in the 2nd row...we'll see.

brutustlx

Seriously, how do we go about getting this grill? I am not one of those people who are all up in arms about the shield, but this is clearly better. I want it. So who do I talk to, this can't be this complicated.

bnilhome

I agree man....that is a very nice looking grille. I've been trying to draw up an alternate grille design for Acura that keeps the pentaganol shape of it, and here is what I thought of.

http://imgur.com/uYtSTpg

Essentially, having a more upright grille with thicker horizontal lines coming together in the middle with the Acura "A" symbol. I am definitely not very good at these types of drawings, but just trying to show what I'm thinking.

Luisito

I agree. That grill should be on the production models. I have both advance models from Acura, the 2014 MDX and a 2012 TL. On the 2014 MDX forums I ran into this thread where he modified his grill. Looks nice, check it out:

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-mdx-2014-2020-414/my-14-black-black-adv-ent-minus-beak-912720/

Luis

fsttyms1

A little time with a hot knife and sander one could probably make something similar.

randomRon82

It's so simple yet makes a WORLD of a difference. I just.....

randomRon82

Pretty cloudy, but this was posted on instagram

Tonyware

Notice how the GT fabulous grill leaves whatever is behind it exposed. I bet you not easy on the eyes when you get close enough. A 3G style would be more appealing.

Ps. I see they patched it up, the GT I mean. Let's see if they can keep it on the track this time around without the PAWS kicking in yo

Tonyware

The debate is whether the classification of the TLX is Luxury or Premium. I say Premium, and hope my insurance broker agrees

Stew4HD

Wouldn't the description of luxury be subjective? The TLX is considered premium, I would think

KeithL

Some dude at Acura is laughing at us because I swear that is the standard grille beak just blacked out.

a77

But the 9gen accord is not bigger inside. Honda may claim it is but it has less rear room - less headroom and less legroom. Tall passengers (me) have to slouch a bit. I have measured both. The 8gen is roomier. Honda admits the 9gen has less overall interior volume. That said the new Accord is still great in the back and is a far superior car to its predecessor.

I won't believe anything until I have tried it. It beggars belief that this car has, according to Honda, less room inside than a Civic. Where has all the extra wheelbase and width gone? The moon?

Tonyware

Well, the Acura people in the videos keep using the word "luxury". I think they should stop using that word because the TLX isn't luxury. It's premium. If every guy out there who builds something calls it luxury then the Bentley hand crafted wood interior might as well close shop and go home.

ggesq

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If Hyundai can call the 2015 Genesis luxury, Acura should be able to call the TLX luxury as well

CheeseyPoofs McNut

It's all marketing - if you say it enough it's true!

Speaking of which - I'm looking forward to the marketing blitzkrieg they spoke of. I find it interesting when a company talks of "THE BIGGEST MARKETING CAMPAIGN IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COMPANY" like it's something to be proud of. I image lots of commercials with Jerry Seinfeld subtly poking fun of Tiger Woods as they cruise for chicks in a TLX.

brutustlx

Yeah, looks good but this grill from the racer is much better IMO, it has some nice detail and still frames the shield in chrome, little details like that are great. But if they are doing this for the racer I am sure someone at Acura can get us set up with the same option. Somehow it looks more evil.

Stew4HD

Okay, then your version of luxury is Bentley, Lexus calls their cars luxury... Anyway, it's not worth arguing about because it is subjective.

Acura_Dude

^this.

Civic2TSX

I was thinking about paint matching my TL's grill. Until I showed a pic of someone else's TL to a friend and that friend said, why would you want to "Camry-fy" your car?!?! -- referring to the paint matched grill on the latest Camry. And to that I had no response! Once I started paying attention to Camry's on the road, I agreed.

fsttyms1

Sorry, but thats a dumb reason not to do it. If you like the look of it or you feel it makes it look better regardless of what other car has it, you should do it and not care. I highly doubt anyone (other than your friend) is going to point and say....... Hey look, that guy wants his car to look like a Camry

komplexZ

You can clearly see the radiator through it, so it's not just blacked out. They probably just modified the stock grille to allow more airflow, if it is structurally sound enough to take that much material out.

justnspace

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structurally sound

you mean plastic?

KeithL

Sit in the new 15 Genesis, it has come a long way. I still think the TLX materials will feel a bit better, but not by the big gap the outgoing Genesis had with it's stock Elantra controls.

jjsC5

The new Genesis definitely qualifies. Not sure about the TLX yet.

ACCURATEin

I can't wait to meet up with the TLX GT in the wild one day. It will never come to me though,...I will have to go hunt it down. And I definitely will go hunt it down if I see a video of it and it sounds awesome and it actually beats the supercars like they claim it will.

Civic2TSX

I knew that I'd seen these rims somewhere before but I couldn't figure out which car I'd seen them on. Today in my garage I found the vehicle that had them. A 2010 Volvo C70

Acura's V is slightly wider but otherwise very very similar. I guess it's not a big deal...more curious than revolting.

Si_jeff

so I guess this is a contender for the Lexus GS and Infiniti Q?

Stew4HD

I don't think it quite reaches the GS level but close

KeithL

Luxury is a loose term. And I am confident the TLX qualifies. In simple terms I think most people will consider luxury as "something above common or necessity". Basically cars that offer comfort or convienence features above what would be basic transportation could be lumped into "luxury". And before everyone goes nuts over this just take it for what is is worth. The problem with cars is people want want to have a fine definition of what classifies, but really some people would probely tell you an Accord Touring is luxurious to them depending on what they are driving today. And having driven my A6 for 11 month now I can tell you there are things about my A6 that to me are below the expectations I normally liken to luxury.

Colin

I'd say that this is a pretty good approximation. I also have a theory that there is something to the ability to sell less content for more money that must factor into the equation. Viewed through this lens, you can see why many do not consider Acura a 'true luxury' brand. They are at their best when offering a better value than the European brands.

In other words, it's easy to add luxury type features to mainstream cars, it's hard to sell them for the same price as the other 'luxury' brands.

randomRon82

bnilhome

Given it has shrunk in size, I don't see the TLX competing with the GS. Maybe the ES or IS. I would agree about the Q and the 3-series, and the size of the RLX would then go against the 5-series, which means Acura still should come up with a true flagship sedan that competed with the 7-series and Lexus LX.

hyperpm

Front bottom half of bumper very 3G like and squarish but rest of car is curvy and swooopy so doesn't match. Front 3/4 view not that great. Side view is Corolla like. Best view is 3/4 rear in my opinion. I'm sure it will sell to Chinese and Vietnamese female demographic here in Northern California.

Black-TLX

I think there are a lot of misconceptions as to where Acura places this car. This is bar none a MID-sized luxury vehicle. Specs do not mean anything. Take for instance Cadillac. The ATS dimensions would place it with Honda civic yet it's a competitor for the BMW 3 series and Audi A4. Meanwhile the Cadillac CTS has about the same cargo and interior space of a f30 BMW 3series yet they are in 2 different classes. If Acura wants to title this car mid size then by all means it is. It has more cargo room than a Lexus GS, BMW 5 series and Cadillac CTS as well as front room. Rear seat room is never accurate because it all depends on the driver. If the driver is short the back seat is massive.

Tonyware

Damn! Silver looks sooooooo goooooood !

jiggaman

agreed, if only they didnt nip and tuck the exhaust. that is just blasphemy. the only time i dont want to see exhaust on a car is if i own a Tesla lol.

CheeseyPoofs McNut

I'm leaning towards the white with espresso interior - but the silver/ebony option is a very close second. Will need to see them live.

Civic2TSX

That really is just gorgeous! I want one!

Momyc

I wished to have the option gray/espresso , but I like the espresso interior (there is I spend the time...) and go with white exterior... still sad no gray/espresso combination available.