2007 Type S - Noisy Rear Suspension
08-31-2007, 08:45 AM
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Ref Waltercbx.. Thank you for the usefull resonse ref to dealer. Ref Harddivin1le, my vin fits in that sequence 7A019928, thank you for your usefull "positive" response. I'm gonna print up this threadand bring it withh me when I go to the dealer tomorrow.
Thanks again!!
Thanks again!!
09-01-2007, 11:44 AM
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My Vin is above A043000. I guess their fix didn't take. I did drive the other two type s' on the lot, one with 3600 and the other with 300 miles. The one with 3600 was a bit tighter than mine, while the one with 300 was much better, but still rattled objectionably. It seems to affect them all to some extent, but also gets worse with mileage. Admittedly, the rear end on mine seems better than before, but I am concerned it may be an illusion caused by the degradation of the front.
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Noisy rear suspension
Hi Mike,
I am having this problem with my 2007 TL, I've taken it to the dealer and they don't seem to hear it. I am going to take it to another dealer this week.
Tamtam
I am having this problem with my 2007 TL, I've taken it to the dealer and they don't seem to hear it. I am going to take it to another dealer this week.
Tamtam
09-03-2007, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by tamtamwalker
Hi Mike,
I am having this problem with my 2007 TL, I've taken it to the dealer and they don't seem to hear it. I am going to take it to another dealer this week.
Tamtam
I am having this problem with my 2007 TL, I've taken it to the dealer and they don't seem to hear it. I am going to take it to another dealer this week.
Tamtam
09-03-2007, 03:47 PM
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Type S cars use stiffer bushings, mounts, dampers and springs.
This will equate to more noise coming into the main structure - whether or not "the fix" is performed.
Some people have valid problems, as the TSB clearly proves.
I think others mat be unacquainted with the downsides of a performance oriented suspension. My TL-S has some suspension "noise," too, but it's quiet as a church compared to my '99 LS1 1LE (competition suspension package) Z28 Camaro. It's also quiet compared to my '06 Accord EX/V6/6 speed that I fitted with Tein SSs all around.
This will equate to more noise coming into the main structure - whether or not "the fix" is performed.
Some people have valid problems, as the TSB clearly proves.
I think others mat be unacquainted with the downsides of a performance oriented suspension. My TL-S has some suspension "noise," too, but it's quiet as a church compared to my '99 LS1 1LE (competition suspension package) Z28 Camaro. It's also quiet compared to my '06 Accord EX/V6/6 speed that I fitted with Tein SSs all around.
09-05-2007, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by harddrivin1le
Type S cars use stiffer bushings, mounts, dampers and springs.
This will equate to more noise coming into the main structure - whether or not "the fix" is performed.
Some people have valid problems, as the TSB clearly proves.
I think others mat be unacquainted with the downsides of a performance oriented suspension. My TL-S has some suspension "noise," too, but it's quiet as a church compared to my '99 LS1 1LE (competition suspension package) Z28 Camaro. It's also quiet compared to my '06 Accord EX/V6/6 speed that I fitted with Tein SSs all around.
This will equate to more noise coming into the main structure - whether or not "the fix" is performed.
Some people have valid problems, as the TSB clearly proves.
I think others mat be unacquainted with the downsides of a performance oriented suspension. My TL-S has some suspension "noise," too, but it's quiet as a church compared to my '99 LS1 1LE (competition suspension package) Z28 Camaro. It's also quiet compared to my '06 Accord EX/V6/6 speed that I fitted with Tein SSs all around.
09-05-2007, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by harddrivin1le
Please define "quality."
Like I said, the car was tight as drum after 6 years and 80K miles worth of driving in New England.
It got BETTER mileage than this TL while producing ~ 300 HP - at the wheels - right off the showroom floor. And it would run all day long on 91 octane gas without a single hint of "pinging" (see other posts regarding that problem).
That engine was quality in terms of DESIGN. It didn't have to rev like hell or run an 11:1 CR to do what it did. It simply made power - EVERYWHERE - while getting mileage that was fully on par with my '04 and '06 V6 Accords.
J.D. Power doesn't measure that type of quality.
Honda's closest competitor to that Camaro in '99 was the Prelude (base model). For the same money I would have gotten a little car with a tiny trunk and a 200 HP 4 banger that got WORSE fuel economy than the LS1 Camaro.
The suspension in my '06 Accord V6 coupe was nothing short of laughable - despite the fact that it used "racing inspired double wishbones. What good is "quality" or "racing inspired double wishbones" when you have to throw ~ $2,500 worth of aftermarket parts at a new car to make it handle ~ 75% as well as the solid rear axle car you just sold (Camaro)?
People love to throw around terms without considering the entire picture...
Like I said, the car was tight as drum after 6 years and 80K miles worth of driving in New England.
It got BETTER mileage than this TL while producing ~ 300 HP - at the wheels - right off the showroom floor. And it would run all day long on 91 octane gas without a single hint of "pinging" (see other posts regarding that problem).
That engine was quality in terms of DESIGN. It didn't have to rev like hell or run an 11:1 CR to do what it did. It simply made power - EVERYWHERE - while getting mileage that was fully on par with my '04 and '06 V6 Accords.
J.D. Power doesn't measure that type of quality.
Honda's closest competitor to that Camaro in '99 was the Prelude (base model). For the same money I would have gotten a little car with a tiny trunk and a 200 HP 4 banger that got WORSE fuel economy than the LS1 Camaro.
The suspension in my '06 Accord V6 coupe was nothing short of laughable - despite the fact that it used "racing inspired double wishbones. What good is "quality" or "racing inspired double wishbones" when you have to throw ~ $2,500 worth of aftermarket parts at a new car to make it handle ~ 75% as well as the solid rear axle car you just sold (Camaro)?
People love to throw around terms without considering the entire picture...
Let's back up a moment...
09-05-2007, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by harddrivin1le
Type S cars use stiffer bushings, mounts, dampers and springs.
This will equate to more noise coming into the main structure - whether or not "the fix" is performed.
Some people have valid problems, as the TSB clearly proves.
I think others mat be unacquainted with the downsides of a performance oriented suspension. My TL-S has some suspension "noise," too, but it's quiet as a church compared to my '99 LS1 1LE (competition suspension package) Z28 Camaro. It's also quiet compared to my '06 Accord EX/V6/6 speed that I fitted with Tein SSs all around.
This will equate to more noise coming into the main structure - whether or not "the fix" is performed.
Some people have valid problems, as the TSB clearly proves.
I think others mat be unacquainted with the downsides of a performance oriented suspension. My TL-S has some suspension "noise," too, but it's quiet as a church compared to my '99 LS1 1LE (competition suspension package) Z28 Camaro. It's also quiet compared to my '06 Accord EX/V6/6 speed that I fitted with Tein SSs all around.
09-05-2007, 09:47 PM
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My TL-S suspension is obnoxiously loud ... every little bump radiates through the cabin ... I've had 'stiffer' suspensions in my CL-S that I drove for 4 years and it was no where near as loud as this thing is. Yes, my vehicle VIN falls within the TSB and the work has not been done yet. I'm trying to schedule the appt to get it done now. However, based on this post, I'm not holding out hope that there will be any improvement .. I think Acura has a more fundamental issue that was the TSB doesn't resolve .. and I certainly don't think the noise cancellation system in the audio system is up for the task presented.
I'll do the TSB and drive it for a 1000 miles around town and go from there. I suspect any calls to Acuras 800# (which by definition will be wasted calls) will be met with a simple marketing script.
I'll do the TSB and drive it for a 1000 miles around town and go from there. I suspect any calls to Acuras 800# (which by definition will be wasted calls) will be met with a simple marketing script.
09-06-2007, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DivinDude
Yes, my vehicle VIN falls within the TSB and the work has not been done yet. I'm trying to schedule the appt to get it done now. However, based on this post, I'm not holding out hope that there will be any improvement .
09-07-2007, 10:39 AM
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Question for all you guys trying to solve this problem.
Has anyone just dumped the Acura Shocks and/or Springs and went with After Market Shocks/Springs or Coil-Overs? If so, is suspension noise now "normal"?
While you should not need to buy AM parts to fix an OEM design/part problem, from a trouble-shooting standpoint, I am curious if a total change makes things better.
If this were to work, what're the chances you could get partial reimbursement from Acura?
Has anyone just dumped the Acura Shocks and/or Springs and went with After Market Shocks/Springs or Coil-Overs? If so, is suspension noise now "normal"?
While you should not need to buy AM parts to fix an OEM design/part problem, from a trouble-shooting standpoint, I am curious if a total change makes things better.
If this were to work, what're the chances you could get partial reimbursement from Acura?
09-23-2007, 11:47 AM
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Mine is a lot better than original. There is still a little suspension noise (as compared to a non- type s). My biggest problem now is the back seat rattle that developed after David McDavid Acura in Austin did the TSB work. I guess they took the seat out and didn't put it back in right.
09-23-2007, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jonathan.chance
My biggest problem now is the back seat rattle that developed after David McDavid Acura in Austin did the TSB work. I guess they took the seat out and didn't put it back in right.
Same exact problem. The rear deck REALLY rattles now. Soft bumps, hard bumps...it doesn't matter, it rattles! Damn.
And yes. They do remove the rear seat. Fixed one problem to start another...
10-03-2007, 06:08 AM
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I went yesterday to the dealer for the 6000 maintenance and talked to the TSA about the noie again. She told me that I had to test the car with a technician so we did it and this time he told me that hë "heard"the noise ( last time he didn''t). He said that he checked and that there was a bulletin for this problem but that honestly he thought that the fix didn't solve anything. Anyways they didn't have the parts for the bulletin available , they were going to order them and then call me back. We'll see.
10-03-2007, 06:09 AM
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I went yesterday to the dealer for the 6000 maintenance and talked to the TSA about the noise again. She told me that I had to test the car with a technician so we did it and this time he told me that hë "heard"the noise ( last time he didn't). He said that he checked and that there was a bulletin for this problem but that honestly he thought that the fix didn't solve anything. Anyways they didn't have the parts for the bulletin available , they were going to order them and then call me back. We'll see.
10-17-2007, 12:15 PM
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So my story continues. Last Thursday i got a call from the rep saying that, my car has the TSB parts if they make noise, I’m just going to have to live with the sound. I was heated and said this was not going to work and I asked her to have her supervisor call me, which he did. Kevin called me back and said he would see what he could do. about 2 hrs later my dealership called and said they spoke with the rep and they want to try another set of post TSB struts on my car, so I set up to drop the car off tomorrow 10/18. Today I get a call from the rep (Kevin) saying that he talked with engineering and they suggested that we try the base model TL struts as fix as they know they will not make noise and that by leaving the TLS springs in with the TL struts won’t cause a performance issues.
What do you guys think of this, they said i could go back the TL-S if I wasn’t happy but they won’t do the ASpec. Do you think i should do this or what? This will be my 3rd set. And what do you guys think the ride will be like with TL-S's stiffer springs and base TL struts?
What do you guys think of this, they said i could go back the TL-S if I wasn’t happy but they won’t do the ASpec. Do you think i should do this or what? This will be my 3rd set. And what do you guys think the ride will be like with TL-S's stiffer springs and base TL struts?
10-17-2007, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ahmad310
What do you guys think of this, they said i could go back the TL-S if I wasn’t happy but they won’t do the ASpec. Do you think i should do this or what? This will be my 3rd set. And what do you guys think the ride will be like with TL-S's stiffer springs and base TL struts?
Nope. Not good enough. Luckily for me, the noise faded heavily after the TSB was performed and I rarely hear it now...or maybe I just got used to it. At any rate, keep on pushing for a solution until the Lemon Law takes effect, then unload the damn thing.
10-17-2007, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by <<se7en>>
Nope. Not good enough. Luckily for me, the noise faded heavily after the TSB was performed and I rarely hear it now...or maybe I just got used to it. At any rate, keep on pushing for a solution until the Lemon Law takes effect, then unload the damn thing.
in ohio i need 3 tries at fixing it before i can lemon law it, so this will be the 3rd so im gonna do it just to hit the magic number, but they are saying that the noise is not gone with the fix only reduced and that the noise is a charicteristic of the suspention. So with acura claiming that the noise isnt gonna go away how would that stand up in court for lemon law if they are saying its gonna have noise no matter what?
10-17-2007, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ahmad310
in ohio i need 3 tries at fixing it before i can lemon law it, so this will be the 3rd so im gonna do it just to hit the magic number, but they are saying that the noise is not gone with the fix only reduced and that the noise is a charicteristic of the suspention. So with acura claiming that the noise isnt gonna go away how would that stand up in court for lemon law if they are saying its gonna have noise no matter what?
10-17-2007, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Ahmad310
in ohio i need 3 tries at fixing it before i can lemon law it, so this will be the 3rd so im gonna do it just to hit the magic number, but they are saying that the noise is not gone with the fix only reduced and that the noise is a charicteristic of the suspention. So with acura claiming that the noise isnt gonna go away how would that stand up in court for lemon law if they are saying its gonna have noise no matter what?
Good luck.
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Just got the car back from having the "A-Spec" suspension installed front and rear. Haven't driven the car but several miles, but it seems like the infamous "Clunk in the trunk" is gone. I think it drives nicer too. Still very flat, but without the harshness. All under warranty too.
10-18-2007, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by deepvee
Just got the car back from having the "A-Spec" suspension installed front and rear. Haven't driven the car but several miles, but it seems like the infamous "Clunk in the trunk" is gone. I think it drives nicer too. Still very flat, but without the harshness. All under warranty too.
I`m want one in my car too ...please share the details...
thanks
10-18-2007, 10:07 AM
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Guys, I read thru several pages but without going thru all 22, could someone tell me if the '08 TL-S cars have this fix from the factory? I've been researching this car a lot, and took one for a test drive last night...it felt pretty stiff to me (I am getting older, lol - 45) but it did not seem to make obnoxious noises (demo with only 180 miles on it)....they are going to let me take one for the day Friday, 10/19 so I will pay close attention....I really like the bang for the buck of this car but really don't want to deal with a bunch of rattles and thunks, etc.....thanks in advance!
10-18-2007, 10:13 AM
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It's based off luck. Some get all or none of them. We couldn't determine a manufacturing date or anything other. Others simply don't mind or notice the noise.
The intermittent rattles are my biggest complaint.
The intermittent rattles are my biggest complaint.
10-18-2007, 03:24 PM
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Rear Rattling noise on '07 TL
Hi everyone, I just purchased a '07 TL , I have 900 km, I'm in Montreal Canada, that would be about 560 miles and I have that rattling/banging noise in the back passenger side. Did Acura have a new TSB for the problem? or its still the rear suspension?
Thx
Thx
10-18-2007, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by deepvee
Just got the car back from having the "A-Spec" suspension installed front and rear. Haven't driven the car but several miles, but it seems like the infamous "Clunk in the trunk" is gone. I think it drives nicer too. Still very flat, but without the harshness. All under warranty too.
10-18-2007, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by george3761
Who and where is your dealer? Did they step-up or the regional rep?
10-22-2007, 01:54 PM
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I've contacted Acura again and told them i would like the A-Spec suspension as a fix for this problem. They then contacted my dealer who has contacted the regional rep to see if we can get this done. Hopefully i will hear something soon.
I told them that if they do this for me i will call it good on whatever the results are.
I'll keep everyone posted.
I told them that if they do this for me i will call it good on whatever the results are.
I'll keep everyone posted.
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Originally Posted by TLMTL07
Hi everyone, I just purchased a '07 TL , I have 900 km, I'm in Montreal Canada, that would be about 560 miles and I have that rattling/banging noise in the back passenger side. Did Acura have a new TSB for the problem? or its still the rear suspension?
Thx
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A really bad day
11-01-2007, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by george3761
I've contacted Acura again and told them i would like the A-Spec suspension as a fix for this problem. They then contacted my dealer who has contacted the regional rep to see if we can get this done. Hopefully i will hear something soon.
I told them that if they do this for me i will call it good on whatever the results are.
I'll keep everyone posted.
I told them that if they do this for me i will call it good on whatever the results are.
I'll keep everyone posted.
11-01-2007, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Ahmad310
let me know how that goes! And let me know who your reps are that you have been dealing with.
So to sum this up my dealer is calling back the rep to see where we go now that the TSB was done. This is very frustrating. So i sit and wait some more.
I'll keep everyone posted.