Turbo Kit for Acura TL '04-'08
06-25-2009, 11:00 PM
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right now the"re 2.5' . but after south florida meet cars goes under the knife for revision which includes different layout as far as piping which ive gotten to see pic of layout will be nice ....
06-25-2009, 11:11 PM
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06-26-2009, 03:02 AM
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I apologize in advanced if this question is not related enough, or answered in the past 33 pages. I got tired after reading from page 27-33.
I've heard many people say the s/c is more "natural" for the car meaning it's safer. I'm all for long term mods, how safe is the turbo? I really would hate to see this turbo kill my engine and what not in a few years. Please enlighten me!
I've heard many people say the s/c is more "natural" for the car meaning it's safer. I'm all for long term mods, how safe is the turbo? I really would hate to see this turbo kill my engine and what not in a few years. Please enlighten me!
06-26-2009, 04:50 AM
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I apologize in advanced if this question is not related enough, or answered in the past 33 pages. I got tired after reading from page 27-33.
I've heard many people say the s/c is more "natural" for the car meaning it's safer. I'm all for long term mods, how safe is the turbo? I really would hate to see this turbo kill my engine and what not in a few years. Please enlighten me!
I've heard many people say the s/c is more "natural" for the car meaning it's safer. I'm all for long term mods, how safe is the turbo? I really would hate to see this turbo kill my engine and what not in a few years. Please enlighten me!
. you know the saying, you have to pay to play..frankly, i wouldnt dare put this kinda power into an autotragic, unless it was seriously beefed up. i dont care how big a tranny cooler you put in, its not going to last PERIOD.
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06-26-2009, 07:53 AM
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06-26-2009, 09:26 AM
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Hey Pass, many of us applaud and congratulate you on your quest. Please be careful when testing and filming your progress while driving. I believed someone offered their free video service to document your project. Oh and by the way, Honda Tech guys are watching to see if you can pull this off.
06-26-2009, 12:49 PM
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thats why i keep saying, traction is going to own this car and if you solve it with stickier tires, than things are going to start to break. just trying to keep it real here, cause there will be ALOT more expected and unexpected expenses, other than just buying this turbo kit. :/
06-26-2009, 01:03 PM
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ive read that thread, but it doesnt prove anything. the question is, how many people that have done this mod so far and are rocking 437whp with 410tq reliably?? time will tell.... remember, 410tq is roughly 130lbs more than a SC'd tl and hits with ALOT more brute force too.
thats why i keep saying, traction is going to own this car and if you solve it with stickier tires, than things are going to start to break. just trying to keep it real here, cause there will be ALOT more expected and unexpected expenses, other than just buying this turbo kit. :/
thats why i keep saying, traction is going to own this car and if you solve it with stickier tires, than things are going to start to break. just trying to keep it real here, cause there will be ALOT more expected and unexpected expenses, other than just buying this turbo kit. :/
06-26-2009, 01:12 PM
#1294
Burning Brakes
ive read that thread, but it doesnt prove anything. the question is, how many people that have done this mod so far and are rocking 437whp with 410tq reliably?? time will tell.... remember, 410tq is roughly 130lbs more than a SC'd tl and hits with ALOT more brute force too.
thats why i keep saying, traction is going to own this car and if you solve it with stickier tires, than things are going to start to break. just trying to keep it real here, cause there will be ALOT more expected and unexpected expenses, other than just buying this turbo kit. :/
thats why i keep saying, traction is going to own this car and if you solve it with stickier tires, than things are going to start to break. just trying to keep it real here, cause there will be ALOT more expected and unexpected expenses, other than just buying this turbo kit. :/
06-26-2009, 01:18 PM
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Burning Brakes
Hey Pass, many of us applaud and congratulate you on your quest. Please be careful when testing and filming your progress while driving. I believed someone offered their free video service to document your project. Oh and by the way, Honda Tech guys are watching to see if you can pull this off.
06-26-2009, 03:00 PM
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ive read that thread, but it doesnt prove anything. the question is, how many people that have done this mod so far and are rocking 437whp with 410tq reliably?? time will tell.... remember, 410tq is roughly 130lbs more than a SC'd tl and hits with ALOT more brute force too.
thats why i keep saying, traction is going to own this car and if you solve it with stickier tires, than things are going to start to break. just trying to keep it real here, cause there will be ALOT more expected and unexpected expenses, other than just buying this turbo kit. :/
thats why i keep saying, traction is going to own this car and if you solve it with stickier tires, than things are going to start to break. just trying to keep it real here, cause there will be ALOT more expected and unexpected expenses, other than just buying this turbo kit. :/
What I think changes things with the turbo is that 130lbs of extra torque is actually 100lbs since you're not using some of it to drive the supercharger. It finds it's way to the wheels instead of the blower.
The number one is actual real engine management to keep it out of detonation and AF ratios safe. This alone is why the turbo cars are holding together with 100hp more. It doesn't hurt that charge air temps are likely half of what the supercharged temps are even at twice the boost.
06-26-2009, 03:03 PM
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Think it's safe to say that's why we are testing , and offering the kit at level where there's no need to start transforming the car from luxury.. But in the quest for power there's never enough, so we've taken that into consideration and performing all the hard work and testing to see exactly where or what power level we have to start upgrading a lot of parts....I've had the kit and clutch setup installed at 77k and now the car is at 81 or 82k .... And nothing else is upgraded so far , we all know it's time for a mount upgrade especially at 416 lb- tq...plus unlike the supercharger it robs no power to make power and the lag is minimal on the turbo kit ..... Not to say I'm the only one who beats on a car but if it all goes well under my abuse it will hold just fine ... As far as automatic , we will me installing one in a auto , and it will be in my care for testing , if it means I have swap cars with a auto owner .....
06-26-2009, 05:16 PM
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get one from the nissan gt-r 
LOL....yeah i would like the setup nice and clean without toooo many gauges in my face !!!
shit now I would have to get the aftermarket navi in place of the stock navi (wanted to do an audio upgrade), with half din DVD in the bottom, and where the 6 cd changer is, we can put a screen with the gauges.....and obviously the HVAC display with the clock !!!!
SHIT that would look HAWT !!!!
LOL....yeah i would like the setup nice and clean without toooo many gauges in my face !!!
shit now I would have to get the aftermarket navi in place of the stock navi (wanted to do an audio upgrade), with half din DVD in the bottom, and where the 6 cd changer is, we can put a screen with the gauges.....and obviously the HVAC display with the clock !!!!
SHIT that would look HAWT !!!!
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06-26-2009, 05:39 PM
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Think it's safe to say that's why we are testing , and offering the kit at level where there's no need to start transforming the car from luxury.. But in the quest for power there's never enough, so we've taken that into consideration and performing all the hard work and testing to see exactly where or what power level we have to start upgrading a lot of parts....I've had the kit and clutch setup installed at 77k and now the car is at 81 or 82k .... And nothing else is upgraded so far , we all know it's time for a mount upgrade especially at 416 lb- tq...plus unlike the supercharger it robs no power to make power and the lag is minimal on the turbo kit ..... Not to say I'm the only one who beats on a car but if it all goes well under my abuse it will hold just fine ... As far as automatic , we will me installing one in a auto , and it will be in my care for testing , if it means I have swap cars with a auto owner .....
06-26-2009, 07:18 PM
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06-26-2009, 07:38 PM
#1302
Even though it wont be ready in at least half a year or so... am I alone in checking back to this thread everyday?
Even if I have a rough day at work... I come to see this thread and it puts a smile every time.
Just like bmw dealerships are putting up with blown turbos and hpfp's going out... I bet there will be an Acura bulletin about broken axles and tranny's associated with the turbo soon.
Even if I have a rough day at work... I come to see this thread and it puts a smile every time.
Just like bmw dealerships are putting up with blown turbos and hpfp's going out... I bet there will be an Acura bulletin about broken axles and tranny's associated with the turbo soon.
06-26-2009, 08:21 PM
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Even though it wont be ready in at least half a year or so... am I alone in checking back to this thread everyday?
Even if I have a rough day at work... I come to see this thread and it puts a smile every time.
Just like bmw dealerships are putting up with blown turbos and hpfp's going out... I bet there will be an Acura bulletin about broken axles and tranny's associated with the turbo soon.
Even if I have a rough day at work... I come to see this thread and it puts a smile every time.
Just like bmw dealerships are putting up with blown turbos and hpfp's going out... I bet there will be an Acura bulletin about broken axles and tranny's associated with the turbo soon.
06-26-2009, 09:28 PM
#1304
You're right of course about parts breakage.
What I think changes things with the turbo is that 130lbs of extra torque is actually 100lbs since you're not using some of it to drive the supercharger. It finds it's way to the wheels instead of the blower.
The number one is actual real engine management to keep it out of detonation and AF ratios safe. This alone is why the turbo cars are holding together with 100hp more. It doesn't hurt that charge air temps are likely half of what the supercharged temps are even at twice the boost.
What I think changes things with the turbo is that 130lbs of extra torque is actually 100lbs since you're not using some of it to drive the supercharger. It finds it's way to the wheels instead of the blower.
The number one is actual real engine management to keep it out of detonation and AF ratios safe. This alone is why the turbo cars are holding together with 100hp more. It doesn't hurt that charge air temps are likely half of what the supercharged temps are even at twice the boost.
i was referring to all the other parts, rather than engine life. pass has gone 4k miles so far with the turbo without any reliabilty issues, that in itself is great news, BUT spinning tires wont put alot of strain on the components either. lets face it, once you find a way to put that power to the ground, parts breakage will follow. thats a gaurantee
06-27-2009, 12:15 AM
#1305
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absolutely, a good tune goes along way. i think our quest for reliable engine management has been answered with the FI/C i was referring to all the other parts, rather than engine life.
pass has gone 4k miles so far with the turbo without any reliabilty issues, that in itself is great news, BUT spinning tires wont put alot of strain on the components either. lets face it, once you find a way to put that power to the ground, parts breakage will follow. thats a gaurantee
i was referring to all the other parts, rather than engine life. pass has gone 4k miles so far with the turbo without any reliabilty issues, that in itself is great news, BUT spinning tires wont put alot of strain on the components either. lets face it, once you find a way to put that power to the ground, parts breakage will follow. thats a gaurantee
As big of a fan as I am of making the car hook off the line, it's probably not a good idea on stock parts. The axles look pretty beefy, I'm assuming it's the CV joint that gives up???
The auto internals don't look half bad as far as clutch holding capacity goes. I was pleasantly surprised when I looked through one on the bench. What we need to do is get around the electronics and find a way to ramp up line pressure as the car goes into boost and I'm pretty sure it will live at the 400hp level. It will also be easier on axles and mounts.
A turbo engine with an automatic and high stall convertor is an unbeatable combo.
Pass- You guys ever try powerbraking from a roll so that you have a few psi before you let off the brake? I used to always do that, especially one time against a Viper from a roll, I was doing 60mph and we were going on the third honk. I had the brakes on hard and built about 15psi so when the third honk came I had instant power when I floored it. It obviously has to be done with common sense to avoid cooking the brakes and convertor if auto.
06-27-2009, 09:17 AM
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Even though it wont be ready in at least half a year or so... am I alone in checking back to this thread everyday?
Even if I have a rough day at work... I come to see this thread and it puts a smile every time.
Just like bmw dealerships are putting up with blown turbos and hpfp's going out... I bet there will be an Acura bulletin about broken axles and tranny's associated with the turbo soon.
Even if I have a rough day at work... I come to see this thread and it puts a smile every time.
Just like bmw dealerships are putting up with blown turbos and hpfp's going out... I bet there will be an Acura bulletin about broken axles and tranny's associated with the turbo soon.
370 whp at 6 psi surpasses my expectations already. I'm already sold if it doesn't fall completely apart at 420+ whp. Pass, thanks for your hard work and being so thorough. Your research is putting a lot of confidence in TL owners who crave more power. I think I'll be keeping the TL for a while longer.
06-27-2009, 12:15 PM
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Nope, not alone. My interest in AZine has gone up since I saw the turbo was on its way...and such a thorough implementation.
370 whp at 6 psi surpasses my expectations already. I'm already sold if it doesn't fall completely apart at 420+ whp. Pass, thanks for your hard work and being so thorough. Your research is putting a lot of confidence in TL owners who crave more power. I think I'll be keeping the TL for a while longer.
370 whp at 6 psi surpasses my expectations already. I'm already sold if it doesn't fall completely apart at 420+ whp. Pass, thanks for your hard work and being so thorough. Your research is putting a lot of confidence in TL owners who crave more power. I think I'll be keeping the TL for a while longer.
I am on the same boat as you are. I was about to sell the TL and buy 2005 evo w/ 25k miles on it for $20k w/ bigger turbo and proper tunning that goes to 500hp. But looking at the evo and the TL, the TL is way more in terms of options and just looks better inside and out side. My goal is to have a car that when I need power it is there and when I need a car just to show, it is there. I think on the showing part, the TL is outstanding, and as soon as the turbo comes out, the TL will brake necks.
06-27-2009, 01:16 PM
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Nope, not alone. My interest in AZine has gone up since I saw the turbo was on its way...and such a thorough implementation.
370 whp at 6 psi surpasses my expectations already. I'm already sold if it doesn't fall completely apart at 420+ whp. Pass, thanks for your hard work and being so thorough. Your research is putting a lot of confidence in TL owners who crave more power. I think I'll be keeping the TL for a while longer.
370 whp at 6 psi surpasses my expectations already. I'm already sold if it doesn't fall completely apart at 420+ whp. Pass, thanks for your hard work and being so thorough. Your research is putting a lot of confidence in TL owners who crave more power. I think I'll be keeping the TL for a while longer.
I am on the same boat as you are. I was about to sell the TL and buy 2005 evo w/ 25k miles on it for $20k w/ bigger turbo and proper tunning that goes to 500hp. But looking at the evo and the TL, the TL is way more in terms of options and just looks better inside and out side. My goal is to have a car that when I need power it is there and when I need a car just to show, it is there. I think on the showing part, the TL is outstanding, and as soon as the turbo comes out, the TL will brake necks.
06-28-2009, 08:35 AM
#1315
Former Whyner
I have been meaning to ask this question for a week or so but WHERE IS THE INTERCOOLER?? Is this kit coming with one?
I will hack the shit outta my bumper to show off an intercooler
I will hack the shit outta my bumper to show off an intercooler
06-28-2009, 12:29 PM
#1319
Former Whyner
My bumper support is definatly going BYE BYE
06-28-2009, 04:27 PM
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