Lazer187

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Can we be notified if this is going to be made for the Type-S?? Ill pull some funds for this mod definitely..

IndyBlackTL

Good to see somebody puttin a turbo on one of these. What are you guys using to tune?? Last time I was on here tuning was very limited.

pass427

Banelba thanks for your donation it will go towards next tune , which will be recorded with a good video this time......xrvman.. I'll email you and thanks for offering your services....laser187... We will definetly be making a kit for the types but right now we are working on finishing the base kit first , then I'm gonna speak with Paul about getting a harness made for the types.....then we" 'll go from there ........I hate cars it's a precision 61 mm turbo with a .68ar ..were just looking at power delivery right now to make sure power is available throught rpm range instead of just at high rpm , which looks good so far which at 6psi &a 11.3 air fuel we still have another 15-25 hp more to c with fine tuning g at the same psi..intercooled yes we are currently waiting on a smaller intercooler which will be tested right now our intercooler is an overkill , probably will suit a higher hp setup ...I'm gonna try to get dyno graph more clear .. In the mean time if anyone has tools to post dyno sheet clearer I'm more than willing to fax a copy feel free to pm me fax number......Nedshneebly thanks for volunteering to donate to a worthy cause... All donations can be forwarded to rodneybrown1@bellsouth.net ......

xrvman

Great love to... I have college on tuesday and thursdays so any other day works for me
Call me 239-898-6701

pass427

Banelba thanks for your donation it will go towards next tune , which will be recorded with a good video this time......

xrvman.. I'll email you and thanks for offering your services....

laser187... We will definetly be making a kit for the types but right now we are working on finishing the base kit first , then I'm gonna speak with Paul about getting a harness made for the types.....then we" 'll go from there ........

I hate cars it's a precision 61 mm turbo with a .68ar ..were just looking at power delivery right now to make sure power is available throught rpm range instead of just at high rpm , which looks good so far which at 6psi &a 11.3 air fuel we still have another 15-25 hp more to c with fine tuning g at the same psi..intercooled yes we are currently waiting on a smaller intercooler which will be tested right now our intercooler is an overkill , probably will suit a higher hp setup ...

I'm gonna try to get dyno graph more clear .. In the mean time if anyone has tools to post dyno sheet clearer I'm more than willing to fax a copy feel free to pm me fax number......

Nedshneebly thanks for volunteering to donate to a worthy cause... All donations can be forwarded to rodneybrown1@bellsouth.net ......

xoulu

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how much do you think a kit will run? will you provide the maps for tuning? will this kit be for manny or auto? What parts are you going to include? If in the near future, will upgradeing any components that came with the turbo itself effect anything? (i.e turbo, bov, intercooler, piping... etc) will this need to be professionally installed?

thanks...

spiike

I hope so or else I'm selling my type s for a 6mt base TL, convert the aesthetics to a TL-S and then getting the turbo. I love the look of the TL... just needs more power.

I hate cars

Interesting. I've actually run the PTE61 with the same .68 A/R. Made a hair over 500rwhp with it, pretty sure it was close to maxed out because the charge air temps were getting way up there. I think that's a great choice, a little on the large size for the hp level. You could get better spool out of a smaller one with no penalty up top but this one will give you room to grow if you choose to turn the boost up.

Even at 6-8 psi you will notice roughly a 10% gain in power throughout the rpm range with no difference in spool with a good intercooler.

pass427

Pricing as of now isn't finalized yet due to the fact during r&d things might change, like for instance the intercooler .. But as soon as we finish testing especially for reliabilty which is what everyone wants I'll definetly let everyone know..kit will include everything from Aem fic , plug&play harness ,piping , fittings all necessary hardware so after install you can start up ...... As far as install a diy video will be available so it would be up to buyer ,.... Quiet simple thou.....

godizus

There's also a big Stone Mountain meet in Atlanta in late July:
https://acurazine.com/forums/southeast-318/southeast-meet-stone-mountain-ga-july-25th-2009-a-716158/

banelba

Not to worry it will probably God Willing be on Atlanta since it half way to NY and Miami at a little later day, around august

gerzand

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Awesome!

ssmtl2nv

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Good job..... cant wait 2 see this on the market

I hate cars

Ah, I misread this the first time. So you currently have a large intercooler and you're looking for a suitable smaller one... Really, I don't think there's a need to go smaller unless there's a fitment issue. I'm conservative on most things but the intercooler is one area where it's better to err on the larger side. No downsides to being too large unless it's grossly oversized but there are plenty of downsides to being too small.

I want to thank you and Banelba. You guys just made the TL competitive with the likes of the Corvette, 335 (even in chipped form), IS350, 370Z, Mustangs, Camaros, etc that we never had a chance against before.

While it may "only" be at 350whp with a nice dose of torque (quite a bit more than a 335 for that matter), you're just a few psi and some supporting mods away from the magical 400+ range.

Making the power is no longer an issue, now someone has to step up and find out what the stock internals will take. Any ideas of where you're going to stop and call it good enough?

TheChamp531

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Good luck, all I want is 350whp, afraid anything higher would equal more wear on parts in and outside of the car

NedShneebly

i want 350 lb ft tq...down low

Lazer187

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YES TYPE-S TURBO

i think my new license plate will be "UBOWNED"

Silva-type-s

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Well after 19 pages, I just graduated with a Masters IN J Series boosting.

Ron A. Where my diploma?

IndyBlackTL

Anyone consider Import Alliance in Nashville?? People from all over show up there. It's huge!

TL|GTX

These guys just made history for the TL lets all give them a applaud.

ssmtl2nv

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+1, hope it is as reliable as the s/c kit because I may get one of these if it comes out.

MobTownTL

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hey, was wondering what types of gauges either car is using? would a knock sensor light still be needed like the s/c's? too much of a cluster isn't always good, especially if your tryna sleep next to some cocky 335i or 370z >=]

Lazer187

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What is the ETA on this being pushed out into the public, for the TYPE - S??

NVA-AV6

At least IMO the must have gauges are UGEO & Boost, a knock warning light would be nice also, slippry came up with a nice clean gauge setup for his car putting them up in the cluster that I am sure he can replicate for others.

Elegant TYPE S

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I'm gonna guess and say its going to take atleast another 3-4 months before they go into production with the base kits, and atleast another 1 year before they venture in for the TYPE S. Then you'll have your standard issues with the first set of people and all the tweaking that needs to be done to perfect it. So it'll be soon, but not very soon. Think about how long it took Mike to make the ATLP exhausts..

pass427

I. Think elegant just summed it up ... I would love for it to be ready sooner but quality and reliability and tweaking must be right so it takes time but rest a sure I'm on it .....+ no sponsors ,except donation from banelba and who else volunteered all out of pocket.....

banelba

About a month ago I had mine tuned going from 6PSI, then 8 and 10. At 10 PSI I was at 426 WHP and 392 torque. It only lasted a week before the transmission gave out. It was driving fine and the only time the check engine would flash was when I get to 7300rpm.
The broken tranny is on it's way to be upgrade. I TRYING to UPGRADE it to a stage 10, but if it's not possible since just a bunch of people knows how to do the job and money is getting tight, I may just max it out at 8 PSI with somehow 350 to 360 WHP and a little bit less torque.
And just as mention in my earlier post of this tread, YES WE CAN

godizus

...exiting!

Lazer187

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so the "soon to be availble diy-able bolt on kit @6psi 343hp 325lb-ft...at 11.3 air/fuel.." means over a year? umm... thats soon?

BTW this is their website with actual pictures and stuff
http://jandrnextlevelperformance.com/

Meek32v6

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considering funding - I would say so
When CT was first working on the SC it seemed like it would NEVER be done... and they had money

I hate cars

You have to understand the R&D that goes into this stuff. They might hit the hp numbers right away but the final tweaking, drivability, and reliability testing takes a long time.

They're doing everyone a favor by not releasing an unreliable kit. IMO, the supercharger is a prime example of a kit that was rushed to production and half assed.

The hp numbers are easy to hit. But there are many other things that have to be done once you get into that hp range. It has to have consistant AF ratios, no knock under all conditons and rpms, no surging problems, you can tweak wastegate settings for optimum spoolup, from the sounds of it, an exhaust system has to be fabricated, and then there's plain old time. It needs to be daily driven just as a customer would do in the real world to make sure it all comes together ok and stays reliable. If problems are found in the final step which they usually are, it has to be solved and retested.

pass427

I couldn't have put it any better ...

I hate cars

Wow, after looking at that website, isn't that the PTE Garrett GT "boosted" series dual ball bearing turbos? Badass!

Just a data point for you guys.... Our faster car made 518rwhp at 10psi. The TL is making 430ish at the same boost. We ended up hitting 800 and change at the wheels with some real boost. Anyone see what the TL is capable of with a turbo?

Hell, pound for pound of boost the TL would blow my GN away from a roll.

jnc2000

Rodney,

I did the best I could to clean these up....

here you go guys

Elegant TYPE S

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I'm not following, can you elaborate. I understand what your conclusion is, but I don't follow the thought process.

I hate cars

Just illustrating the hp potential of this engine. Pound for pound of boost it makes more hp than my GN. I've always said that with the airflow of the stock heads/intake this thing would be a killer with some real boost and it's coming true.

Basically we are going to be able to hit the hp limit of the stock internals with just the turbo and supporting mods, no other mods like cams, ported heads, etc. In other words, with one mod, you can have all the hp the engine can handle.

banelba

" I hate Car" you are very right and there is a second engine sitting and waiting to be Ported and polish, cams done and even the crankshaft will be lightened. You won't see a lot of Honda to which the crankshaft been work on because a lot of machine shop do not like to mess with the Honda ones.

I hate cars

You might as well put some forged 8:1 JEs in there, close the deck, run 18psi on 91 octane and hit the 550-600rwhp this thing is capable of. Not that it would be smart to do in a FWD platform.

pass427

Thanks jnc2000 .... Alright I have some great news just got of the of phone with tuner so I confirmed one thing if u look at graph you can tell there's no transition for vtec engagement .. That's because the vtec is controlled by Aem fic which Paul instructed us but after runnig late no remembered that ..... So long story short there's no vtec currently on with this tune ,tuner said at no charge on Tuesday he'll retune it for me at same psi with vtec on this time weeeeeeeeeehoooooooooooooo

I hate cars

Wow. So it's destined to pick up another solid gain at the same boost. This thread keeps getting better and better.