TL Diet 2.0/Track Car Build - Roll Cage Pg 51

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-21-2013 | 05:58 PM
  #1481  
I hate cars's Avatar
Team Owner
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 20,172
Likes: 1,812
From: Bakersfield
It's possible that you will have more timing if the IAT sees colder air. That's a good thing as long as you have the octane to support it.

The larger throttlebody will definitely affect the way you drive the car. It's the same as that old electronic Spring Booster that opened the throttle farther for the same pedal input. The throttlebody may or may not make more power, depending on whether or not the stock one was a restriction. But since it's larger in diameter you're getting a lot more air at lower throttle openings while top end probably won't be affected that much. It will be most noticeable under partial throttle. Might be good for rev matching and when you need a quicker blip of the throttle.
Old 03-21-2013 | 08:47 PM
  #1482  
vill0169's Avatar
Thread Starter
AZ Track Whore
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,674
Likes: 298
From: Omaha, NE
Moar updates and PICS!

when I took of the runners the first time I saw that the knock sensor was broken and decided to replace it. apparently it's a common thing and has a TSB? I'd never heard of it though.

Name:  0321131601_zps479f0fa6.jpg
Views: 179
Size:  50.5 KB

Ported the new 3.7 manifold today. Was a little conservative and didn't port as much as I could've but I was more concerned with polishing it back to how smooth is was OEM. So the pics are before I sanded them back down to 400 grit smoothness, they're damn smooth now.

Name:  0321131601a_zps6221ad68.jpg
Views: 183
Size:  56.1 KB

Name:  0321131601b_zps2f222d1d.jpg
Views: 142
Size:  56.1 KB

Got two new Hoosiers in today as well!

Name:  0321131637_zps02b12eb9.jpg
Views: 137
Size:  69.7 KB

BIGGEST NEWS THOUGH IS THE NEW WING!!!!!! Here's some comparison shots to the wing from last year! can't wait to feel the grip this season.

Name:  0321132031_zps18238e98.jpg
Views: 175
Size:  76.4 KB

Name:  0321132031a_zps6a9196fd.jpg
Views: 150
Size:  81.5 KB


I'll get some pics up over the weekend of all the new projects actually on the car but there's a lot of work to be done before that happens
Old 03-22-2013 | 07:47 AM
  #1483  
maharajamd's Avatar
Race Director
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 13,382
Likes: 1,544
From: Columbus, OH
Nice! And it's nice to be able to say nice to a wing like that on a TL. Because racecar!
Old 03-22-2013 | 07:51 AM
  #1484  
rockstar143's Avatar
Moderator
Chapter Leader (South Florida Region)
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 78,019
Likes: 20,036
Lmfao...that's the only way people will say that. Serious downforce
Old 03-22-2013 | 10:01 AM
  #1485  
brian6speed's Avatar
Lone Wolf
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 5,982
Likes: 498
You should run a gurney flap on your wing. Is it still an apr wing?
Old 03-22-2013 | 10:22 AM
  #1486  
Undying Dreams's Avatar
Race Director
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 18,278
Likes: 3,824
From: South Florida
Holy hell! That thing is huge!!

Can't wait to see it installed.
Old 03-22-2013 | 12:10 PM
  #1487  
vill0169's Avatar
Thread Starter
AZ Track Whore
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,674
Likes: 298
From: Omaha, NE
Originally Posted by brian6speed
You should run a gurney flap on your wing. Is it still an apr wing?
I'm actually thinking that with the more "flatness" this wing has it might make sense to add a small gurney to it. It's not an APR, and APR in this size would be like 1800 bucks haha.
Old 03-22-2013 | 02:00 PM
  #1488  
350's Avatar
350
My first ricer
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,521
Likes: 256
From: Willow Grove, PA
Forgive me if I'm missing something but couldn't too much rear downforce be a bad thing on a FWD car? Effectively shifting the weight off the driven wheels.
Old 03-22-2013 | 02:10 PM
  #1489  
maharajamd's Avatar
Race Director
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 13,382
Likes: 1,544
From: Columbus, OH
^Oh the old wing is going on the hood... new one on the trunk.

It's all the craze these days.
Old 03-22-2013 | 03:53 PM
  #1490  
richardparker's Avatar
3.7L Nitrous Breathing CL
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,658
Likes: 160
Looks like it's time to get rid of the old sofa and push the wing into place
Old 03-22-2013 | 04:12 PM
  #1491  
swoosh's Avatar
takin care of Business in
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 30,994
Likes: 4,732
From: Kansas City, MO
holy fuqqing shit Rex !!! That is awesome !!!

Loving the new update....great job on the IM....I am looking into selling my whole intake setup (runners to filter) and am working on something else....else see how that will go

The wing looks SICK !!!

I might look into that smaller wing....I am pretty sure I will need it in the next 150-ish lbs LOL
Old 03-22-2013 | 07:02 PM
  #1492  
vill0169's Avatar
Thread Starter
AZ Track Whore
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,674
Likes: 298
From: Omaha, NE
Originally Posted by 350
Forgive me if I'm missing something but couldn't too much rear downforce be a bad thing on a FWD car? Effectively shifting the weight off the driven wheels.
well with 1000+lbs off the stock curb weight you need something to help make grip and help with stability. Plus the front splitter is helping make the front end stick too. So no, it's not a bad thing at all

Originally Posted by Maharajamd
^Oh the old wing is going on the hood... new one on the trunk.

It's all the craze these days.
Haha no Fwing for me!

Originally Posted by swoosh
holy fuqqing shit Rex !!! That is awesome !!!

Loving the new update....great job on the IM....I am looking into selling my whole intake setup (runners to filter) and am working on something else....else see how that will go

The wing looks SICK !!!

I might look into that smaller wing....I am pretty sure I will need it in the next 150-ish lbs LOL
Well somebody should pick that setup up pronto man!
Old 03-22-2013 | 07:45 PM
  #1493  
vill0169's Avatar
Thread Starter
AZ Track Whore
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,674
Likes: 298
From: Omaha, NE
Picks of the progress made today; IM/TB and intake are all in and done. Had to move my catch can to the other side of the engine bay but that wasn't too hard to do in order to make room for the new intake.

Name:  0322131839_zps417bacce.jpg
Views: 182
Size:  127.7 KB

Name:  0322131839a_zpsce693849.jpg
Views: 156
Size:  80.0 KB

Name:  0322131840_zps8d96635c.jpg
Views: 141
Size:  75.6 KB
The following users liked this post:
MEKO (03-23-2013)
Old 03-23-2013 | 12:57 AM
  #1494  
MEKO's Avatar
Suzuka Master
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 7,380
Likes: 2,321
From: Boston
Damn, that engine bay..
What is that orange pipe for?
Old 03-23-2013 | 01:05 AM
  #1495  
HQTL6SPD's Avatar
Three Wheelin'
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,329
Likes: 27
From: Spring TX
^Cooling the brakes most likely
Old 03-23-2013 | 09:21 AM
  #1496  
maharajamd's Avatar
Race Director
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 13,382
Likes: 1,544
From: Columbus, OH
^yup
Old 03-23-2013 | 02:04 PM
  #1497  
the fenda rolla's Avatar
The Track Terror
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 545
Likes: 76
From: Dallas, TX
Hey Villo! Can you feel the extra power? Do you have Flashpro? And I was wondering if you could take pix of where the brake duct hose connects to the fog light opening and where it connects to the back of the rotors? And thanks a bunch for the updates bro!
Old 03-23-2013 | 02:15 PM
  #1498  
vill0169's Avatar
Thread Starter
AZ Track Whore
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,674
Likes: 298
From: Omaha, NE
Originally Posted by the fenda rolla
Hey Villo! Can you feel the extra power? Do you have Flashpro? And I was wondering if you could take pix of where the brake duct hose connects to the fog light opening and where it connects to the back of the rotors? And thanks a bunch for the updates bro!

Haven't driven it yet obviously (not even a thought to put this on the street lol) and no I don't have flashpro, 04 here brother.

Name:  IMG_20111008_182201.jpg
Views: 145
Size:  68.4 KB

ugly but gives you an idea

Name:  IMG_20110905_164933.jpg
Views: 127
Size:  62.5 KB
Old 03-23-2013 | 04:03 PM
  #1499  
Hi speed's Avatar
runnin a little boost
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,227
Likes: 256
Isn't the catch can causing a vacuum leak the way it's setup?
Old 03-23-2013 | 04:49 PM
  #1500  
the fenda rolla's Avatar
The Track Terror
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 545
Likes: 76
From: Dallas, TX
Thanks for the pix as usual Villo! That looks great and definitely gives me an idea of what to do for mine! Did you make those metal rotor cylinders yourself? And what hose diameter do you use?
Old 03-23-2013 | 05:38 PM
  #1501  
vill0169's Avatar
Thread Starter
AZ Track Whore
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,674
Likes: 298
From: Omaha, NE
Originally Posted by Hi speed
Isn't the catch can causing a vacuum leak the way it's setup?
Why do you say that? ran it like that last year with no problems at all.

Originally Posted by the fenda rolla
Thanks for the pix as usual Villo! That looks great and definitely gives me an idea of what to do for mine! Did you make those metal rotor cylinders yourself? And what hose diameter do you use?
Yeah I made those myself. I ran 2" but now I know there's room for 3" no problem.
Old 03-23-2013 | 06:01 PM
  #1502  
Hi speed's Avatar
runnin a little boost
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,227
Likes: 256
Originally Posted by vill0169
Why do you say that? ran it like that last year with no problems at all.
I thought the vacuum from the intake side hose of your catch can would escape out of the filter on top instead of pulling blow by from the valve cover.
Like if you left any port open on the intake it gives you an intake leak.
Old 03-23-2013 | 07:52 PM
  #1503  
vill0169's Avatar
Thread Starter
AZ Track Whore
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,674
Likes: 298
From: Omaha, NE
Originally Posted by Hi speed
I thought the vacuum from the intake side hose of your catch can would escape out of the filter on top instead of pulling blow by from the valve cover.
Like if you left any port open on the intake it gives you an intake leak.
Mine is on the line between the IM/PCV and the front valve cover. It's simply acting as a vent/catch can before the IM to keep it clean and healthy.

The tube from the rear valve cover is the intake pipe is eliminated down to just a filter on the valve cover for me. It all allows the crankcase to breathe and depressurize as needed but also keeps the IM as clean as possible hopefully.
Old 03-23-2013 | 08:03 PM
  #1504  
vill0169's Avatar
Thread Starter
AZ Track Whore
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,674
Likes: 298
From: Omaha, NE
What oh what could this be for?

Name:  0323131820b_zpscca83b59.jpg
Views: 133
Size:  103.2 KB

Name:  0323131404a_zps72f15e33.jpg
Views: 153
Size:  96.2 KB

Name:  0323131404_zpsb3bbf746.jpg
Views: 125
Size:  92.5 KB

thought I'd share my work thus far today.
Old 03-23-2013 | 08:14 PM
  #1505  
richardparker's Avatar
3.7L Nitrous Breathing CL
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,658
Likes: 160
Nice parts, is that for the wing ?

Why haven't you removed that deadener in the trunk ? that must be 4-5lbs
Old 03-23-2013 | 08:18 PM
  #1506  
vill0169's Avatar
Thread Starter
AZ Track Whore
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,674
Likes: 298
From: Omaha, NE
yep, welded to the frame area and reinforced all the way around to ensure there's no loss of downforce to trunk flex, pivoting, etc.


as for the sound deadening - honestly I'm just burned out of removing that crap. After doing the 4 footwells I'm just not up for tackling the rest right now....maybe some day I'll get to it.
Old 03-23-2013 | 08:22 PM
  #1507  
05_NBP_TL's Avatar
HE>i
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,670
Likes: 253
From: North Carolina
Originally Posted by richardparker
Why haven't you removed that deadener in the trunk ? that must be 4-5lbs

^ My first thought... "Ewww, all that deadner "
Old 03-24-2013 | 11:03 AM
  #1508  
brian6speed's Avatar
Lone Wolf
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 5,982
Likes: 498
Originally Posted by vill0169
yep, welded to the frame area and reinforced all the way around to ensure there's no loss of downforce to trunk flex, pivoting, etc.


as for the sound deadening - honestly I'm just burned out of removing that crap. After doing the 4 footwells I'm just not up for tackling the rest right now....maybe some day I'll get to it.
I know how you feel. Seems like all I do now is these tedious and annoying projects. I think for some reason I enjoy them.
Old 03-24-2013 | 04:44 PM
  #1509  
swoosh's Avatar
takin care of Business in
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 30,994
Likes: 4,732
From: Kansas City, MO


do werk VILLO !! (its been a while I called you that haha)

well everything looks great....I am very very eager to see this car in person
Old 04-02-2013 | 01:20 PM
  #1510  
vill0169's Avatar
Thread Starter
AZ Track Whore
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,674
Likes: 298
From: Omaha, NE
Had some time today before flying tonight to button up some wiring and finally hear the car run with the new setup. Sounds excellent but have some CEL issues and ABS Light to diagnose before she'll actually be ready for the track.

Wing project is almost done as well so stay tuned for updates.
The following 3 users liked this post by vill0169:
Brakoo (04-02-2013), maharajamd (04-02-2013), swoosh (04-02-2013)
Old 04-02-2013 | 01:39 PM
  #1511  
swoosh's Avatar
takin care of Business in
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 30,994
Likes: 4,732
From: Kansas City, MO
I for 1 am wayyy tooo eager to see this
Old 04-02-2013 | 04:45 PM
  #1512  
AnthraciteAspec's Avatar
RPF1+RS3 FTW
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,543
Likes: 273
From: 818|310
I was watching this show are you faster than a redneck on speed channel the other day. Where the rednecks pick on imports and see if they can beat them on a road course. I would love to see villo on the show and beat them lol
Old 04-03-2013 | 08:21 AM
  #1513  
vill0169's Avatar
Thread Starter
AZ Track Whore
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,674
Likes: 298
From: Omaha, NE
haha I just caught that show for the first time at a bar last week, hilarious to say the least. If they did things a bit differently on the show it'd be a whole lot more tempting lol.
Old 04-03-2013 | 10:14 AM
  #1514  
swoosh's Avatar
takin care of Business in
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 30,994
Likes: 4,732
From: Kansas City, MO
Anthracite, did you just call Rex a redneck?
Old 04-03-2013 | 12:17 PM
  #1515  
Undying Dreams's Avatar
Race Director
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 18,278
Likes: 3,824
From: South Florida
What?! I gotta see that show, that's awesome.
Old 04-03-2013 | 12:18 PM
  #1516  
maharajamd's Avatar
Race Director
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 13,382
Likes: 1,544
From: Columbus, OH
Corn vs rice? Sounds fun to me!
Old 04-09-2013 | 11:27 AM
  #1517  
vill0169's Avatar
Thread Starter
AZ Track Whore
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,674
Likes: 298
From: Omaha, NE
Still in a mad dash to get the car ready for the shakedown on April 19th. Pulled all the un-needed fuses out yesterday, who knew it can run on so few!!!!! lol I must have pulled at least a dozen or so out.
Old 04-10-2013 | 07:59 PM
  #1518  
vill0169's Avatar
Thread Starter
AZ Track Whore
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,674
Likes: 298
From: Omaha, NE
Really happy with how the cleaned up dash area is turning out. The majority of the metal framing is gone, along with some wiring as well. I did have to bend up a bracket for the VSA Yaw sensor being I assume it's calibrated for about that spot in the car and I didn't want to mess anything up by moving it. It's still a mess with cut up dash dust but I thought I'd share some pics.

Name:  0410131947_zps7c42ca15.jpg
Views: 141
Size:  115.5 KB

Name:  0410131948_zps6465b152.jpg
Views: 182
Size:  115.4 KB

Name:  0410131948a_zpscb0d6745.jpg
Views: 145
Size:  106.9 KB
Old 04-10-2013 | 08:04 PM
  #1519  
MEKO's Avatar
Suzuka Master
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 7,380
Likes: 2,321
From: Boston
I think that looks a little different than a stock TL

wow
Old 04-10-2013 | 08:28 PM
  #1520  
swoosh's Avatar
takin care of Business in
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 30,994
Likes: 4,732
From: Kansas City, MO
holy fucking shit Rex....that looks SICKKKKKKK !!!


Quick Reply: TL Diet 2.0/Track Car Build - Roll Cage Pg 51



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:03 PM.