ATLP J-Pipe Dyno
#684
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WOW NOW THATS SOME NICE NUMBERS FOR AN AUTO, I WAS HOPING FOR THE 6MT TL-S TO PUT OUT OVER 270+ WHP AND OVER 250 WTQ. I CAN'T WAIT FOR MINES TO SHOW UP. I HOPE IT ARRIVES BY SAT JPIPE AND RSB =) ANYONE GOING TO DYNO THERE 6MT TYPE S SOON? UR Pulley, P2R TB Spacer, OE IM gaskets<~ MUST HAVE GAVE YOU GREAT GAINS OVER JUST AEM AND ATLP EXHAUST... SORRY FOR CAPS I AM AT WORK...
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thanks guys. i was crossing my fingers that i would break 270+
well, to be honest.. it was 272.6... but thats 273 to me![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
im throwing my car back on the lift tomorrow for my teins, so ill check the clearance issues. my mechanic said he had some kind of special heat wrap/sheild he was gonna put over the pipe, just to ensure its not heating up my oil.
the run conditions were VERY similar to my last pull.. last time i was January, but their dyno is kind of indoors, so i dunno if weather really played a factor in it.. but 273... i couldnt be happier.... i think im good with the performance things for a while
Also, my car went NUTS after the dyno. I got VSA:16 and VSA:18 codes thrown.. but they went away 30 seconds after i started driving it. probably something to do with the speed sensors...
well, to be honest.. it was 272.6... but thats 273 to me
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im throwing my car back on the lift tomorrow for my teins, so ill check the clearance issues. my mechanic said he had some kind of special heat wrap/sheild he was gonna put over the pipe, just to ensure its not heating up my oil.
the run conditions were VERY similar to my last pull.. last time i was January, but their dyno is kind of indoors, so i dunno if weather really played a factor in it.. but 273... i couldnt be happier.... i think im good with the performance things for a while
Also, my car went NUTS after the dyno. I got VSA:16 and VSA:18 codes thrown.. but they went away 30 seconds after i started driving it. probably something to do with the speed sensors...
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OE IM gaskets'
Outlaw Engineering Thermoblok Intake Manifold Gaskets... they were like $101 shipped. it also came with a TB gasket, but i have the P2R , so i didnt install it
honestly.. i think i could have spent my $100 better. i bet these gaskets didnt do anything for my #'s... waste of money
Outlaw Engineering Thermoblok Intake Manifold Gaskets... they were like $101 shipped. it also came with a TB gasket, but i have the P2R , so i didnt install it
honestly.. i think i could have spent my $100 better. i bet these gaskets didnt do anything for my #'s... waste of money
#689
MY KBP IS BTR THN URS...
Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
thanks guys. i was crossing my fingers that i would break 270+
well, to be honest.. it was 272.6... but thats 273 to me![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
im throwing my car back on the lift tomorrow for my teins, so ill check the clearance issues. my mechanic said he had some kind of special heat wrap/sheild he was gonna put over the pipe, just to ensure its not heating up my oil.
the run conditions were VERY similar to my last pull.. last time i was January, but their dyno is kind of indoors, so i dunno if weather really played a factor in it.. but 273... i couldnt be happier.... i think im good with the performance things for a while
Also, my car went NUTS after the dyno. I got VSA:16 and VSA:18 codes thrown.. but they went away 30 seconds after i started driving it. probably something to do with the speed sensors...
well, to be honest.. it was 272.6... but thats 273 to me
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im throwing my car back on the lift tomorrow for my teins, so ill check the clearance issues. my mechanic said he had some kind of special heat wrap/sheild he was gonna put over the pipe, just to ensure its not heating up my oil.
the run conditions were VERY similar to my last pull.. last time i was January, but their dyno is kind of indoors, so i dunno if weather really played a factor in it.. but 273... i couldnt be happier.... i think im good with the performance things for a while
Also, my car went NUTS after the dyno. I got VSA:16 and VSA:18 codes thrown.. but they went away 30 seconds after i started driving it. probably something to do with the speed sensors...
LET US KNOW ABOUT THAT HEAT WRAP / SHEILD
#690
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
thanks guys. i was crossing my fingers that i would break 270+
well, to be honest.. it was 272.6... but thats 273 to me![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
im throwing my car back on the lift tomorrow for my teins, so ill check the clearance issues. my mechanic said he had some kind of special heat wrap/sheild he was gonna put over the pipe, just to ensure its not heating up my oil.
the run conditions were VERY similar to my last pull.. last time i was January, but their dyno is kind of indoors, so i dunno if weather really played a factor in it.. but 273... i couldnt be happier.... i think im good with the performance things for a while
Also, my car went NUTS after the dyno. I got VSA:16 and VSA:18 codes thrown.. but they went away 30 seconds after i started driving it. probably something to do with the speed sensors...
well, to be honest.. it was 272.6... but thats 273 to me
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im throwing my car back on the lift tomorrow for my teins, so ill check the clearance issues. my mechanic said he had some kind of special heat wrap/sheild he was gonna put over the pipe, just to ensure its not heating up my oil.
the run conditions were VERY similar to my last pull.. last time i was January, but their dyno is kind of indoors, so i dunno if weather really played a factor in it.. but 273... i couldnt be happier.... i think im good with the performance things for a while
Also, my car went NUTS after the dyno. I got VSA:16 and VSA:18 codes thrown.. but they went away 30 seconds after i started driving it. probably something to do with the speed sensors...
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#691
We've prototyped the pipe with less clearance than the final version, driving and stationary which didn't produce any problems with the oil heating up. Even with stop and go traffic there was no increase of heat outside the normal range of the oil temp. We did increase the gap between the oil pan and the pipe to assure even more clearance and also help in dispersing any direct heat.
#694
312 HP 271 TQ Dynapack
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I'm happy for you, BLACK. those are some good-a$$ numbers you put down, the TL'S is an under-rated beast!!! 286 HP at the crank, my ass!!! More like 300 HP!!!!! I'm jealous...Those are practically numbers for forced induction, you "naturally-aspirated" mo'-flo"!!! hahaha. good job man.
#696
Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
haha.. im happy. and i know all dynos read different, but this is the same exact dyno that gave me disappointing numbers on my 06 5AT
even the dyno guys were impressed. they were shocked when hit 261 in January... 273, the guys jaw hit the floor
even the dyno guys were impressed. they were shocked when hit 261 in January... 273, the guys jaw hit the floor
Has anyone heard anything about the test pipe addon?
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its pretty straight forward. you can use one of the following
1) Megan 03-07 Accord V6 Test pipe
2) Richie Test Pipe
3) ATLP Test Pipe (once mike creates it)
its basically just a hollow metal pipe about 10-12" long
I am sure if ATLP makes one, they will use nice SS flanges
1) Megan 03-07 Accord V6 Test pipe
2) Richie Test Pipe
3) ATLP Test Pipe (once mike creates it)
its basically just a hollow metal pipe about 10-12" long
I am sure if ATLP makes one, they will use nice SS flanges
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
haha.. im happy. and i know all dynos read different, but this is the same exact dyno that gave me disappointing numbers on my 06 5AT
even the dyno guys were impressed. they were shocked when hit 261 in January... 273, the guys jaw hit the floor
even the dyno guys were impressed. they were shocked when hit 261 in January... 273, the guys jaw hit the floor
nice #'s bro, I will be dynoing in about a month or so, once im finished with the p2r, crank pulley, j pipe and a suprise for all of you........
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Those numbers ARE INSANE ALLON! jeez 270whp+ mg i am speechless....i need to dyno mine as well lol
but yeah, jpipe install went smoothly as long as you buy a test pipe, bolts on the cat wont budge....install took nearly 1hr for me....this is my first time doing it as well....pretty straight foward
soundwise, the exhaust really opens up at 4000RPMs, gives out a roar no one will ever forget.....very nice!!!
Mike have i told you i love you? haha ok just making sure :gheylaugh:
but yeah, jpipe install went smoothly as long as you buy a test pipe, bolts on the cat wont budge....install took nearly 1hr for me....this is my first time doing it as well....pretty straight foward
soundwise, the exhaust really opens up at 4000RPMs, gives out a roar no one will ever forget.....very nice!!!
Mike have i told you i love you? haha ok just making sure :gheylaugh:
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^^ just realized, if the pipe is touching the oil pan, oil temp is raised... that might explain why my dynos went down by the 3rd pull. ill dig deep into this tomorrow. I have been contemplating adding an oil temp guage anyways....
usually, the power increases with runs and i always get my best numbers on the 2nd or 3rd run. today my first pull was the best, then the #s dropped on the next 2 pulls
usually, the power increases with runs and i always get my best numbers on the 2nd or 3rd run. today my first pull was the best, then the #s dropped on the next 2 pulls
#707
Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
its pretty straight forward. you can use one of the following
1) Megan 03-07 Accord V6 Test pipe
2) Richie Test Pipe
3) ATLP Test Pipe (once mike creates it)
its basically just a hollow metal pipe about 10-12" long
I am sure if ATLP makes one, they will use nice SS flanges
1) Megan 03-07 Accord V6 Test pipe
2) Richie Test Pipe
3) ATLP Test Pipe (once mike creates it)
its basically just a hollow metal pipe about 10-12" long
I am sure if ATLP makes one, they will use nice SS flanges
i wouldnt get megan or richie's the inlet would be a bottle neck with the ATLP jpipe. The ATLP jpipe is 2.5 outlet megan test pipe is 2.25 inlet
#708
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Originally Posted by evanj5
i wouldnt get megan or richie's the inlet would be a bottle neck with the ATLP jpipe. The ATLP jpipe is 2.5 outlet megan test pipe is 2.25 inlet
And 273 is pretty sick, Blackura. When are you going to get a time slip for that car and show Dave B on the R&C forum that an N/A 5AT TL can in fact break into the 13's??
So who's gonna' be the first Type-S 6MT to match the car's factory crank rating at the wheels???
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#709
Burning Brakes
Just a thought guys....
Blackura is running the 3.5L and has noticed the J Pipe touching the oil pan slightly...
KenTL has a 2007 (type S???), and he too is running in to clearance issues with the oil pan and J pipe...
However, ib18c1 is running the 3.2L and has no issues along with Mike, who is running the a 3.2L...
(Did not the transmissions (automatics) change in 2007 also?, so maybe everything post 2006 sits a little differently?)
Maybe? the fitment is the same dimensionally amongst the two engines, however, either.
1. the 3.5L has a bigger oil pan?
2. the 3.5L has all exhaust pipes translated "x" inches closer to the oil pan?\
3. If in fact the trannies changed post 2007, Acura adjusted the way everything is placed, thereby moving the J-Pipe closer to the oil pan?
I apologize in advance if some of the stuff comes off as ignorant...not to intimately familar with our engines just yet.
Blackura is running the 3.5L and has noticed the J Pipe touching the oil pan slightly...
KenTL has a 2007 (type S???), and he too is running in to clearance issues with the oil pan and J pipe...
However, ib18c1 is running the 3.2L and has no issues along with Mike, who is running the a 3.2L...
(Did not the transmissions (automatics) change in 2007 also?, so maybe everything post 2006 sits a little differently?)
Maybe? the fitment is the same dimensionally amongst the two engines, however, either.
1. the 3.5L has a bigger oil pan?
2. the 3.5L has all exhaust pipes translated "x" inches closer to the oil pan?\
3. If in fact the trannies changed post 2007, Acura adjusted the way everything is placed, thereby moving the J-Pipe closer to the oil pan?
I apologize in advance if some of the stuff comes off as ignorant...not to intimately familar with our engines just yet.
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no thats ignorant at all, its a smart theory. i believe all the R&D was done on a 3.2L TL...
like i said, shes gonna go up on the lift tomorrow... i will check out everything tomorrow and take some good photos while my car is on the lift... but i took some photos in the dark tonight, and its a TIIGGHHT squeeze
like i said, shes gonna go up on the lift tomorrow... i will check out everything tomorrow and take some good photos while my car is on the lift... but i took some photos in the dark tonight, and its a TIIGGHHT squeeze
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Actually I have a Base.
Looks like the '07 + Base and Type S use a different oil pan than 04-06 TLs.
04-06 TL:11200-RDA-A00
07+ Base and Type S: 11200-RYE-A00.
Looks like the '07 + Base and Type S use a different oil pan than 04-06 TLs.
04-06 TL:11200-RDA-A00
07+ Base and Type S: 11200-RYE-A00.
Originally Posted by ankur914
Just a thought guys....
Blackura is running the 3.5L and has noticed the J Pipe touching the oil pan slightly...
KenTL has a 2007 (type S???), and he too is running in to clearance issues with the oil pan and J pipe...
However, ib18c1 is running the 3.2L and has no issues along with Mike, who is running the a 3.2L...
(Did not the transmissions (automatics) change in 2007 also?, so maybe everything post 2006 sits a little differently?)
Maybe? the fitment is the same dimensionally amongst the two engines, however, either.
1. the 3.5L has a bigger oil pan?
2. the 3.5L has all exhaust pipes translated "x" inches closer to the oil pan?\
3. If in fact the trannies changed post 2007, Acura adjusted the way everything is placed, thereby moving the J-Pipe closer to the oil pan?
I apologize in advance if some of the stuff comes off as ignorant...not to intimately familar with our engines just yet.
Blackura is running the 3.5L and has noticed the J Pipe touching the oil pan slightly...
KenTL has a 2007 (type S???), and he too is running in to clearance issues with the oil pan and J pipe...
However, ib18c1 is running the 3.2L and has no issues along with Mike, who is running the a 3.2L...
(Did not the transmissions (automatics) change in 2007 also?, so maybe everything post 2006 sits a little differently?)
Maybe? the fitment is the same dimensionally amongst the two engines, however, either.
1. the 3.5L has a bigger oil pan?
2. the 3.5L has all exhaust pipes translated "x" inches closer to the oil pan?\
3. If in fact the trannies changed post 2007, Acura adjusted the way everything is placed, thereby moving the J-Pipe closer to the oil pan?
I apologize in advance if some of the stuff comes off as ignorant...not to intimately familar with our engines just yet.
#713
Originally Posted by KenTL
Actually I have a Base.
Looks like the '07 + Base and Type S use a different oil pan than 04-06 TLs.
04-06 TL:11200-RDA-A00
07+ Base and Type S: 11200-RYE-A00.
Looks like the '07 + Base and Type S use a different oil pan than 04-06 TLs.
04-06 TL:11200-RDA-A00
07+ Base and Type S: 11200-RYE-A00.
#714
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
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DYNO results made me very very
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gained 12whp/12wtq
ATLP Exhaust, AEM CAI, UR Pulley, P2R TB Spacer, OE IM gaskets
261whp 3rd gear , 238 wtq 4th gear
+ ATLP J-Pipe
273whp 3rd gear, 250 wtq 4th gear
yea thats right. 273whp on a N/A 5AT TL-S !!!! almost 50 more than my 06 TL (227whp)
This was a dynojet. same machine i always use. Run conditions were VERY similar to my last set of pulls
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......as I run to order my J-pipe.....
......well, kinda wanna hear about the clearance issue first!
#715
WEAKSAUCE !!!
How Many Poeple With A Type- S Installed The Jpipe So Far? How Many People Ran Into Clearance Issues? I Am Curious As Well Mines Is Suppose To Come Soon As Well As Many Other Type-S Guys... I Hope There Is No Issue That Means Production Will Take Even Longer To Make Any Clearance Issue Adjustments For The Type-S Guys, And Those Who Have Them Already Will Have To Shippem Them Back =(
#717
Team Anthracite
Originally Posted by ray64105
Installed it this evening on my 06 AT. Build quality is excellent. You can definitely feel the extra power when rpms get up to 3K.
My other engine mods are stock size UR pulley, P2R TB spacer and Magnaflow exhaust. I've got a 4"x22" resonator and 4"x9"x14" mufflers using the stock piping.
As an added bonus, I swear the J-pipe has dramatically reduced exhaust drone. Mine was mainly noticeable when slowly accelerating or going uphill at around 2K rpms. Now I barely notice it except on really steep hills.
My other engine mods are stock size UR pulley, P2R TB spacer and Magnaflow exhaust. I've got a 4"x22" resonator and 4"x9"x14" mufflers using the stock piping.
As an added bonus, I swear the J-pipe has dramatically reduced exhaust drone. Mine was mainly noticeable when slowly accelerating or going uphill at around 2K rpms. Now I barely notice it except on really steep hills.
DID U SAY REDUCE DRONE??!?!?! (even though u have magnaflow)
anyone with Greddy EVO2 put this thing on yet? if it does reduce the drone then... YAY no need to figure out the resonator and piping to resonate my EVO2... still waiting for my j-pipe come on!!!!
#718
Team Anthracite
Originally Posted by minkl81
lucky first 20s!!! i still have more than a week of waiting
anyways.. =) I do have a 06 5AT S/C =) so I AM IN NEED OF IT!!!! ARRRRR =)
#719
Team Anthracite
Originally Posted by mrlunecy
Am I the first boosted guy to install this?
Before and after shots to show the difference;
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This clearance is with a ONE inch drop with COMPTECH springs.
Clearance looks pretty damn good. This pipe is a work of art! Gains are definetly there. Sound is a bit more throaty, but no rasp. This is all with the blower, procats and greddy evoII. ALL STOCK EXHAUST PARTS ARE NOW GONE!!! HAHAHA. Thanks Mike!!!
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Before and after shots to show the difference;
![](http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i171/el_lunatico/j-pipe_clearance1.jpg)
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This clearance is with a ONE inch drop with COMPTECH springs.
Clearance looks pretty damn good. This pipe is a work of art! Gains are definetly there. Sound is a bit more throaty, but no rasp. This is all with the blower, procats and greddy evoII. ALL STOCK EXHAUST PARTS ARE NOW GONE!!! HAHAHA. Thanks Mike!!!
#720
Burning Brakes
Not to certain to what products are really out there for wrapping exhaust piping, but a quick google search gave me this
http://www.jscspeed.com/universal/th...eader_wrap.htm
Seems like for those that live in wintry climates, the exhaust wrap should be done with extreme care. I dont think 400 class steel is bulletproof against corrosion, but is far more superior than normal carbon steel. The thing that worries me about the wrap is that, since the J Pipe is exposed to much of the elements, salty road grime can see its way past the wrap and then get "stuck" behind it where any water (salty or not) will have difficulty draining. Basically then, it will just sit there, eating away at the pipe.
There is a spray option that they have also. Almost like a rubber coat. I would think sumthing like that would be a better solution as it can insulate the pipe and allow for an inpenetrable seal.
The other thing that came to mind was to only wrap the portion of the pipe by "gluing" some wrap on the contact area. For example, when looking down at the pipe thru its circular cross section, the "right side" will have some wrap glued on it, while the left side of the same cross sectional view, will not. This is probably the most
of the solutions.
I, perosnally, would opt for a spray application. Something rubberized that can coat up to 1/8" or so.
Hope this helps!
http://www.jscspeed.com/universal/th...eader_wrap.htm
Seems like for those that live in wintry climates, the exhaust wrap should be done with extreme care. I dont think 400 class steel is bulletproof against corrosion, but is far more superior than normal carbon steel. The thing that worries me about the wrap is that, since the J Pipe is exposed to much of the elements, salty road grime can see its way past the wrap and then get "stuck" behind it where any water (salty or not) will have difficulty draining. Basically then, it will just sit there, eating away at the pipe.
There is a spray option that they have also. Almost like a rubber coat. I would think sumthing like that would be a better solution as it can insulate the pipe and allow for an inpenetrable seal.
The other thing that came to mind was to only wrap the portion of the pipe by "gluing" some wrap on the contact area. For example, when looking down at the pipe thru its circular cross section, the "right side" will have some wrap glued on it, while the left side of the same cross sectional view, will not. This is probably the most
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I, perosnally, would opt for a spray application. Something rubberized that can coat up to 1/8" or so.
Hope this helps!
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