ATLP Base Exhaust final prototype is in.
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I think it looks great Mike, I think you need to maybe take a shot with the inside darker and you'll get all of those who are sold on it yet. That is the only thing I didn't like but it does get darker and I'm sure it would look a lot better once its darker.
I think you should also take a picture from the top of the trunk down so you can somehow get a shot of both of the tips from the top cause the majority of the time you see them from the top.
I'm kinda disappointed now that the regular tl's will sound almost the same at the type s. The only difference is the look of the tips, but o well I can deal with that. It definitely saves production costs.
I think you should also take a picture from the top of the trunk down so you can somehow get a shot of both of the tips from the top cause the majority of the time you see them from the top.
I'm kinda disappointed now that the regular tl's will sound almost the same at the type s. The only difference is the look of the tips, but o well I can deal with that. It definitely saves production costs.
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the problem is that pictures do no justice, you have to see it in person like many of the other stuff. IMHO...i was skeptical about the look at first, but once they were on I loved it! Every minute that passed by as Scott the mufflerman was doing the welding, the more i liked it. reminds me of a European sports exhaust, sleek, raw, clean cut. The way the tips, mufflers, and extension was composed gave it a sports car look, kind of like a porsche
It is all solely preference as well. I am a major fan of European exhausts such as eisenman, stromung, sebring, remus, etc and this one hit it on the spot. I also think the pictures made the mufflers come out a bit meh is because of the color mismatch on the bumper, idk about you guys but that made a big difference for me, try to imagine it the same color, see if that makes a difference.
As for the sound, I do not think it will sound the same as the ATLP quads. The tips have a widemouth opening as opposed to ATLP Quad's 3.5" opening with long tips. The muffler on the BASE ATLP is 1" or so longer as well, so it is a different size. I think the tone will be more solid, leaning more to a bass-ier aggressive tone.
The tips may work for some...that is up to you. The way i see it, it is different and I love it. I think the quad outlets to a single rolled oval tip is very unique, why? Because if it was just a single outlet to an oval tip it would remind me too much of a stock tip welded to a magnaflow oval muffler or a universal oval tip welded to a magnaflow muffler. This design atleast has a sense of being different.
I am still waiting for the go for the final fitment, these of course are just dummy mufflers. Not sure if I will still be mr. tester since that wasn't my bumper Maybe Mike will get someone with the base aspec next time?
This whole post of mine was purely my and some facts
It is all solely preference as well. I am a major fan of European exhausts such as eisenman, stromung, sebring, remus, etc and this one hit it on the spot. I also think the pictures made the mufflers come out a bit meh is because of the color mismatch on the bumper, idk about you guys but that made a big difference for me, try to imagine it the same color, see if that makes a difference.
As for the sound, I do not think it will sound the same as the ATLP quads. The tips have a widemouth opening as opposed to ATLP Quad's 3.5" opening with long tips. The muffler on the BASE ATLP is 1" or so longer as well, so it is a different size. I think the tone will be more solid, leaning more to a bass-ier aggressive tone.
The tips may work for some...that is up to you. The way i see it, it is different and I love it. I think the quad outlets to a single rolled oval tip is very unique, why? Because if it was just a single outlet to an oval tip it would remind me too much of a stock tip welded to a magnaflow oval muffler or a universal oval tip welded to a magnaflow muffler. This design atleast has a sense of being different.
I am still waiting for the go for the final fitment, these of course are just dummy mufflers. Not sure if I will still be mr. tester since that wasn't my bumper Maybe Mike will get someone with the base aspec next time?
This whole post of mine was purely my and some facts
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Mike- what about just extending the tips out from the mufflers if the rolled oval will not fit the RJ rear- could that be a viable option. That would give us the quad look which I LOVE!
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i keep looking at this exhaust more and more... its really starting to grow on me i diff wanna see more pics of it and the finish product.
this is really nice when i started back on the form there was only 3 exhaust for these cars atlp for type s, greddy, comptech then came ,xrl8 for type s and base,now tanabe,and now the atlp for base so many to chose from and all great products.anyone should be able to find an exhaust that fits there needs.
this is really nice when i started back on the form there was only 3 exhaust for these cars atlp for type s, greddy, comptech then came ,xrl8 for type s and base,now tanabe,and now the atlp for base so many to chose from and all great products.anyone should be able to find an exhaust that fits there needs.
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Mike, please consider us RJ kit owners for this exhaust. I want the exhaust, but I just can't cut my bumper. The cutout for the exhaust tips is part of the beauty of the RJ bumper. Can you confirm whether it would fit or not? If not, would you consider an alternate tip, or maybe just extend the pipes and delete the tip like dragonlord suggested?
Also, will this tip come with the ATLP logo like the quads have? It would look great since you have a bigger canvas to work with
Also, will this tip come with the ATLP logo like the quads have? It would look great since you have a bigger canvas to work with
#171
This has me stoked--I like it so far, Mike.
Can't wait to see it on an A-Spec.
I'm thinkin' a powder coated Remus-style black muffler w/those chrome tips would be nice especially for upkeep.
Can't wait to see it on an A-Spec.
I'm thinkin' a powder coated Remus-style black muffler w/those chrome tips would be nice especially for upkeep.
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+1 Remus is awesome, I liked those squared off, polished quad tips on those old boys...
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HELL YA!! ding ding!!! I think I am sold ($$ as the only deciding factor, gimmie a couple wks.) This is exactly the way I wanted it to look! Those 2 pipes into the tips looks freakin awesome and unique. Like nothing out there. Some might want that blacked out but I would be one of the freaks cleaning out the tips at every car wash showing it off! I like it! The tips stick out just the right amount. I am sure once the A-Spec is on it will peek out just right am I right?
Guys who are analyzing the pics; I am telling you that pics lie. I can bet you it looks way better in person. There's a lot of angles and perspectives that just won't look right in 2D. Wow I am happy! Now how different does it sound than the quads and what does it look with A-Spec is my question.
Guys who are analyzing the pics; I am telling you that pics lie. I can bet you it looks way better in person. There's a lot of angles and perspectives that just won't look right in 2D. Wow I am happy! Now how different does it sound than the quads and what does it look with A-Spec is my question.
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More real pics are needed. I am getting this or the XLR8 catback for my A-Spec 06 TL.
I REALLY WANT quad round exits, BUT I am not cutting my recently installed 06 A-Spec body kit. OR buying the TL-S rear lip.
Do I want dual rectangular exhaust or dual 4.5" XLR8 exits???
I REALLY WANT quad round exits, BUT I am not cutting my recently installed 06 A-Spec body kit. OR buying the TL-S rear lip.
Do I want dual rectangular exhaust or dual 4.5" XLR8 exits???
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#176
We will have a working muffler next week, with sound clips. More pics/clips will come. =)
RonJon guys, is there anyone here in So.Cal? The tip starts around quarter of an inch from the top, so it doesn't start at the narrowest point. Also, the widest point on the tip itself (since it's oval), isn't until the middle.
RonJon guys, is there anyone here in So.Cal? The tip starts around quarter of an inch from the top, so it doesn't start at the narrowest point. Also, the widest point on the tip itself (since it's oval), isn't until the middle.
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We will have a working muffler next week, with sound clips. More pics/clips will come. =)
RonJon guys, is there anyone here in So.Cal? The tip starts around quarter of an inch from the top, so it doesn't start at the narrowest point. Also, the widest point on the tip itself (since it's oval), isn't until the middle.
RonJon guys, is there anyone here in So.Cal? The tip starts around quarter of an inch from the top, so it doesn't start at the narrowest point. Also, the widest point on the tip itself (since it's oval), isn't until the middle.
Stock tip (sorry for the salt residue)
It is hard to try to get the other dimensions with the tip in the way.
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Although I cant say for sure yet due to lack of pictures, I'm not sure if I like it. From the back it looks good, would look better when the inside of the tips are painted black. From the side however, it looks like it doesnt really flow with the curve of the rear bumper like a stock type-s or type-s atlp does, they have that staggered look. However, need MOAR PICS
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Although I cant say for sure yet due to lack of pictures, I'm not sure if I like it. From the back it looks good, would look better when the inside of the tips are painted black. From the side however, it looks like it doesnt really flow with the curve of the rear bumper like a stock type-s or type-s atlp does, they have that staggered look. However, need MOAR PICS
I'm more interested in seeing the exhaust with the A-Spec lip since I have it as well as others. It would be interesting to see it with the TL-S A-Spec as well just so you can possible get more buyers.
#187
Actual muffler fitting early next week. Will have sound clips and more pictures as well.
For the angle, it will be kept that way. It's a bit "bolder" than stock, but really, do you want to pay 1K for something that will just "look" like stock? No, you will regret it.
In person, I really think it looks great, and not bad at all. I can't wait to see it on the road as that will look really fly. As far as the details, we are also going to spend a lot of time TIG welding the tip to the connecting pipes, which will really show off the details from the side.
For the angle, it will be kept that way. It's a bit "bolder" than stock, but really, do you want to pay 1K for something that will just "look" like stock? No, you will regret it.
In person, I really think it looks great, and not bad at all. I can't wait to see it on the road as that will look really fly. As far as the details, we are also going to spend a lot of time TIG welding the tip to the connecting pipes, which will really show off the details from the side.
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I agree
I will decide between this and the XLR8 non-res when I can do a real comparison in looks and sound. I am not sure if I want a catback that looks like the OEM TL stock exhaust. I WANT QUAD EXHAUST without modding my recently installed 06 A-Spec rear lip.
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The worst part is that Mike has not even bothered to respond to us RJ owners. That kind of disheartened me. We are not a big bunch, but an exhaust that would fit our kit would have really made for outstanding customer service and a tremendously great look.
And Elegant- don't expect too much- I have asked numerous times for dimensions and for a tip to test fit, but no response ever came.
Sorry Mike- but you lost 1 customer!
And Elegant- don't expect too much- I have asked numerous times for dimensions and for a tip to test fit, but no response ever came.
Sorry Mike- but you lost 1 customer!
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give him some slack, he is a fulltime student you know
ps. I can bet you $100 after the test fit pics, the tips have been at stromung the entire time.... so wait till he does the final preproduction working prototype for him to give you some measurements
small chance is might fit after all its dual till the tip, so if the length of the 2 tips together is less than 4.5" it'll fit you know
ps. I can bet you $100 after the test fit pics, the tips have been at stromung the entire time.... so wait till he does the final preproduction working prototype for him to give you some measurements
small chance is might fit after all its dual till the tip, so if the length of the 2 tips together is less than 4.5" it'll fit you know
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The worst part is that Mike has not even bothered to respond to us RJ owners. That kind of disheartened me. We are not a big bunch, but an exhaust that would fit our kit would have really made for outstanding customer service and a tremendously great look.
And Elegant- don't expect too much- I have asked numerous times for dimensions and for a tip to test fit, but no response ever came.
Sorry Mike- but you lost 1 customer!
And Elegant- don't expect too much- I have asked numerous times for dimensions and for a tip to test fit, but no response ever came.
Sorry Mike- but you lost 1 customer!
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The worst part is that Mike has not even bothered to respond to us RJ owners. That kind of disheartened me. We are not a big bunch, but an exhaust that would fit our kit would have really made for outstanding customer service and a tremendously great look.
And Elegant- don't expect too much- I have asked numerous times for dimensions and for a tip to test fit, but no response ever came.
Sorry Mike- but you lost 1 customer!
And Elegant- don't expect too much- I have asked numerous times for dimensions and for a tip to test fit, but no response ever came.
Sorry Mike- but you lost 1 customer!
I understand your frustration with finding something to fit with your rear bumper, but didn't you consider this when you decided on the RJ kit to begin with given its exclusivity?
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Yes we are a small bunch, and a VERY proud bunch, but customer service is customer service. I have asked Mike (and others also) for dimensions since the prototype stage, in this thread and by PM, and not once did he respond. Maybe his projects and school are overwhelming, but it only takes 2 minutes to give an answer. I love his quad system, and was seriously going to purchase this one. Now I will buy elsewhere. I will continue to follow this project for you VAST majority of followers just to see what the final product looks like.
GL to you all.
GL to you all.
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Come on man, cut the guy some slack. Why would Mike, who isn't a large manufacturer with endless resources, gear this exhaust towards the RJ kit when the vast majority of potential buyers do not have the kit? That's just not smart business. Had the tips been fit to accomodate the RJ bumper, they probably wouldn't look right in the base rear making the project as a whole a failure.
I understand your frustration with finding something to fit with your rear bumper, but didn't you consider this when you decided on the RJ kit to begin with given its exclusivity?
I understand your frustration with finding something to fit with your rear bumper, but didn't you consider this when you decided on the RJ kit to begin with given its exclusivity?
If I have offended anyone- I didn't not intend to do it intentionally. Ask my wife how I am disappointed that the tips don't fit. I was looking forward to this for a long time. Our other options for exhaust at the time ( CT or custom) and the ones now (Tanabe-too quiet, and XLR8- perfect) have definately widened my choices. But they have bigger R & D budgets. I fell in love with the ATLP quad system and I had hoped this new "base" model would fit. I just compared the "base" exhaust cut-out and compared to the RJ, and there is a considerable difference in size.
If the ATLP exhaust would have been out when I purchased my RJ kit, I would not have bought the RJ kit- that is how much I value the ATLP over the RJ body kit, (but not enough to in my opinion ruin the RJ kit by cutting the exhaust cut-outs to make the ATLP fit).
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Is using the stock tips with the atlp cat-back an option? I honestly don't know but could this be a way for you to upgrade your exhuast while keeping the tips that fit in the openings? Like I said, I haven't looked into if this is an option simply becuase it doesn't apply to me. Trust me, I understand where you're coming from. It's kind of a price you pay for going the more unique route unfortunately.
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Is using the stock tips with the atlp cat-back an option? I honestly don't know but could this be a way for you to upgrade your exhuast while keeping the tips that fit in the openings? Like I said, I haven't looked into if this is an option simply becuase it doesn't apply to me. Trust me, I understand where you're coming from. It's kind of a price you pay for going the more unique route unfortunately.
I hope that we can get some dimensions of the final after his prototype is finalzed. Thank you jweb12 for the suggestion.
Sorry everyone else including Mike for my ranting and raving and behaving like a spoiled child! Unemployent has not made me a nice person.
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Viagra is the solution.....LOL.....
Come on.....we aint school kids.....ask my wife or ask my mom.....
I agree he didn't respond or some like that, and you have been waiting since 2005 to get the right exhaust....wait couple more days....aint gonna hurt.....
if I were mike and you overwhelm me with email and PM's....i did block you....
so just chill because this exhaust looks so damn hawt you might have to eat your own words about ATLP loosing a customer.....
PEACE !!!
Come on.....we aint school kids.....ask my wife or ask my mom.....
I agree he didn't respond or some like that, and you have been waiting since 2005 to get the right exhaust....wait couple more days....aint gonna hurt.....
if I were mike and you overwhelm me with email and PM's....i did block you....
so just chill because this exhaust looks so damn hawt you might have to eat your own words about ATLP loosing a customer.....
PEACE !!!