Navigation Hack Guide: Welcome Screen Mod, Trip Computer, OK Button Nag Removal

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Old 04-14-2010, 03:46 PM
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will any hacks work for the white 4.62 navigation?
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I believe you can only change the image file displayed at startup on v4.XX.
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While I don't have a TL I do have a 2006 Accord and I have done the welcome screen hack. I am updating to the newest 4.91 I think....anyways, will installing the update remove my pic?? If so, how can I replace it? Is it the same as original except different file names? And what would the files names be?

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I don't know about 4.91---all the instructions I have seen are for 4.63 and those are pretty dated. Give it a try and let us know.
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Does anyone know if updating the dvd removes the welcome screen hack?
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Yes, you will have to re-apply the hack specific to the upgraded version. Currently, there are have for v3.40 through v3.90. Also note that you must re-apply the hack anytime you have to enter the security code after unplugging the battery.
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Originally Posted by shellready
For anybody who wants to do this and just wants the files, you can use this method. I just did it and it worked for me!!
Hey, what splash screen does that set-up use? I just burned that one on to a cd, and im going to try it tomorrow, but im just curious about the screen.
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Nevermind...I just did it. Took less than 2 minutes. It works great. I used it w/ a version 3.40c. The splash screen used was a pic of the TL tachometer.
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I tried navigating through all 31 pages but just cant so forgive me if this problem has been run into before. It seems as if everytime I insert a disc it will reboot the navi which doesnt allow for me to load the modified files. Some backround...

Car is a 2006 TL using version 3.50 orange disc
I copied the files locally to my PC
Used the dumpnavi.exe application
In the bootloader file I browsed to BNHH401A.BIN which is what BIN is showing in the version menu of the Navi
I have the tick selected for Modify Bitmap and point to a file I created thats of the right size and format per the instructions
I have the tick selected for Modify Nag screen
It goes for a few moments then tell me BIN file sucessfully modified and its modify date in windows explorer shows that it was modified.

I burn that file as part of these 9 files to a DVD

BN2HH12C.BIN
BN2HH110.BIN
BN2HH120.BIN
BN2HHMLD.BIN
BN2HN12B.BIN
BN2HN18B.BIN
BN2HN380.BIN
BNHH401A.BIN
BNHN404A.BIN
I go out to the car, let the OEM navi load until I see a map
Choose the 3 button combo, choose the version button so I'm on the second screen where you can choose Disc Load
Go to the back of the car and pop out the OEM disc and then pop in the modified disc
This reboots the navi back to the OEM splash screen (a friend who's done this says this shouldnt happen)
I go back to the car and do the 3button combo and then choose version and Disc Load button
It loads for a bit, restarts the navi and I get the OEM navi splash screen again and then it tells me disc read error
I put the OEM navi disc back in and it reboots the navi again and nothign has changed.

My friend tells me when he swaps discs it doesnt reboot his navi so he's getting to the Disc Load button, swapping discs, loading the new modified disc, and then after it loads the modified files he puts the OEM disc back in Viola all set.

Anyone have insight into why mine might be rebooting the Navi when I insert the modified disc?
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I need help!!!! I just purchased a 2006 Acura TL and love this fourm. I was very looking forward to doing the nav. mod. I have the 3.50 version. But I cant get the dumpnavi program to work. It pops up for a split second and goes off I tried all three. Also witch one do I use? I just want to do the OK and the Trip mod, is it the Console the Console(source) or the Graphical. Any help is greatly appreciated.

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This sounds like a burn issue. Try another disk/computer/application to burn your hack disk. I use IMGBurn (Google it) to burn my CDs and it works great.
You should only need BNHH401A.BIN and BN2HHMLD.BIN on the hack CD, as those are the two files that load the memory of the Navi unit.
Make sure you are using fresh copies of BNHH401A.BIN each time you run DumpNavi---the program does not like trying to hack and already hacked file. If all you want to do is change the bitmap on a BIN file you know is hacked for the OK/Trip mod, make sure you de-select the "Modify Nag Screen" box.
Hope this helps.


Originally Posted by THATPRELUDEGUY
I tried navigating through all 31 pages but just cant so forgive me if this problem has been run into before. It seems as if everytime I insert a disc it will reboot the navi which doesnt allow for me to load the modified files. Some backround...

Car is a 2006 TL using version 3.50 orange disc
I copied the files locally to my PC
Used the dumpnavi.exe application
In the bootloader file I browsed to BNHH401A.BIN which is what BIN is showing in the version menu of the Navi
I have the tick selected for Modify Bitmap and point to a file I created thats of the right size and format per the instructions
I have the tick selected for Modify Nag screen
It goes for a few moments then tell me BIN file sucessfully modified and its modify date in windows explorer shows that it was modified.

I burn that file as part of these 9 files to a DVD

BN2HH12C.BIN
BN2HH110.BIN
BN2HH120.BIN
BN2HHMLD.BIN
BN2HN12B.BIN
BN2HN18B.BIN
BN2HN380.BIN
BNHH401A.BIN
BNHN404A.BIN
I go out to the car, let the OEM navi load until I see a map
Choose the 3 button combo, choose the version button so I'm on the second screen where you can choose Disc Load
Go to the back of the car and pop out the OEM disc and then pop in the modified disc
This reboots the navi back to the OEM splash screen (a friend who's done this says this shouldnt happen)
I go back to the car and do the 3button combo and then choose version and Disc Load button
It loads for a bit, restarts the navi and I get the OEM navi splash screen again and then it tells me disc read error
I put the OEM navi disc back in and it reboots the navi again and nothign has changed.

My friend tells me when he swaps discs it doesnt reboot his navi so he's getting to the Disc Load button, swapping discs, loading the new modified disc, and then after it loads the modified files he puts the OEM disc back in Viola all set.

Anyone have insight into why mine might be rebooting the Navi when I insert the modified disc?
Old 04-19-2010, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by oneway
I need help!!!! I just purchased a 2006 Acura TL and love this fourm. I was very looking forward to doing the nav. mod. I have the 3.50 version. But I cant get the dumpnavi program to work. It pops up for a split second and goes off I tried all three. Also witch one do I use? I just want to do the OK and the Trip mod, is it the Console the Console(source) or the Graphical. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thank You
The graphical is easiest. As noted above, make sure you use a fresh copy of the BIN file and un-check the boxes for any actions you are not performing.
If you do have to use the Console version, try running it from a command prompt instead of double-clicking it in Windows.
Old 04-19-2010, 07:05 PM
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Thanks dwb993, I just cant seem to get the BNHH401A.bin file copied to the dumpnavi from my desktop I know I'm missing a stupid step and its super frustrating. This should be so simple but I just cant get it. I've been looking for a nice set of detailed step by step instructions with pics maybe, just cant find them.


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Ok i just purchased the 2010 3.9 Orange disk for 167, I have been trying to do the Navi hack. No i have tried these files to hack my navi because i read that they worked. Files/information Now It has worked but my issue is that when i use the A/C controls, i hit on and my fan comes on 'Awesome' but now when i hit off 'NOTHING happens' Now is this because i am hacking the 2010 3.9 or that is how the hack has always been. If anyone has hacked or got the hack to work for the 3.9 please pm me/Post/Email me jsteed59@gmail.com
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Originally Posted by oneway
Thanks dwb993, I just cant seem to get the BNHH401A.bin file copied to the dumpnavi from my desktop I know I'm missing a stupid step and its super frustrating. This should be so simple but I just cant get it. I've been looking for a nice set of detailed step by step instructions with pics maybe, just cant find them.

Don't use the Desktop. Instead, create a temporary directory on the C: drive called NAVTEMP or some shit and dump all of the files into it---BIN files, the DumpNavi program, all of it. Then work with everything inside that single folder. This way, you simplify the file paths so no programs get confused. You may also need to work within a command prompt, and having them in one folder wil help with that, too.
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Originally Posted by jsteed59
Ok i just purchased the 2010 3.9 Orange disk for 167, I have been trying to do the Navi hack. No i have tried these files to hack my navi because i read that they worked. Files/information Now It has worked but my issue is that when i use the A/C controls, i hit on and my fan comes on 'Awesome' but now when i hit off 'NOTHING happens' Now is this because i am hacking the 2010 3.9 or that is how the hack has always been. If anyone has hacked or got the hack to work for the 3.9 please pm me/Post/Email me jsteed59@gmail.com
I have not seen nor heard of this behavior, but will check it on my v3.50 to see what happens.
I normally don't use the Navi controls for the A/C---the buttons are easier, IMO. The one function I use the most (besides the OK button hack, obviously) is the Trip Computer to get Instant Average.
Old 04-20-2010, 10:45 PM
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Yeah but that is the thing, it may work on the 3.5 but not on the 3.9 differ versions. But you right there is no point in hacking for the A/C the physical buttons are easier. But let me know of it works or not on the 3.5 just curious. I guess ill have to just hack the trip and no ad, and image. Thanx
Old 04-20-2010, 11:16 PM
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Does anyone know which files to edit on the new white 4.81 disk for changing the screen pic??
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Please help....

wrong forum..sorry

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Yeah but that is the thing, it may work on the 3.5 but not on the 3.9 differ versions. But you right there is no point in hacking for the A/C the physical buttons are easier. But let me know of it works or not on the 3.5 just curious. I guess ill have to just hack the trip and no ad, and image. Thanx
There is a reason Acura ditched the Navi controls and went with the MID. I think they couldn't make the HFL play nice with the Navi, so they separated out the components that would have cost the most to re-write and stuck them in the MID. I think this because the HFL gets all screwed up if you tell it to change the temperature or something while the Trip Computer screen is up.
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OK I just attempted this mod today for the first time using 2 different sets of modified files and they both are causing the same issues. First I load up the nav with stock dvd, eject disk then put in burned cd with 2 modded files. I Press the 3 buttons, click versions and load disk. it loads the files into the system for a few minutes and the modified pictures pops, the screen turns black then disk error. I eject the burned cd and replace with the OEM the modded splash screen shows up at first then the loading maps without nag, but then it starts reloading the files from the DVD and reboots back to normal. WTH!! anyone with this issue?

(I have the orange 3.5 disk)
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Ya did something wrong. Go back and check everything.
Remember to hack a fresh BIN---the hacks will screw up an already hacked BIN.
Try doing one hack at a time, burning it and applying it. See if you can track down what portion of the process is screwing you up. Use a CDRW for this.
Try a different burner and/or software combo. I use IMGBurn (Google it) and it has replaced Nero for all of my burning needs except 5.1 channel DVD-A burns. Try a slower burn speed and/or different media manufacturer.
If other people have done it successfully, you can, too.
Old 04-22-2010, 04:49 AM
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I didnt do any of the bin hacking myself I just used 2 sets that people have uploaded with the same .bin. I have a MAC so I cant use these programs right now unless I set up VMware. Been using CD-R with toast to burn as a data file. hummmm
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mine does the same thing....... i just dont get it
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So first off, does this work with 3.30G? Dont see any mention of this version in the original post.

And if it does work with 3.30G, I have all my .BIN files copied to my computer, but there are only 8 of them, and when I run the dumpnavi program I get an error "Unable to open file \srhg." followed by "Error extracting files in BIN".

Help?

edit: 9 files if I include ADD.BIN, but the total size of these files is 345mb, not 104mb....

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OK im soo close to finishing this but I cant find Kenny's modified OK executable for Navi 3.40c and its not on the vista forum that I can see. Anyone have this or know how to edit the navi.exe file from my 3.5 to fit back into the bin?
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If anyone can post a working hack for 3.5, that would be great. I've wasted about 20 DVDs / CDs to no avail. The closest I've been able to get was having the custom background and navi hack show up, but just like everyone else, it just re-downloads the original navi software once i put the DVD back in.

I consider myself pretty tech-savvy, but this has got me stumped!
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I got it working and the cracks to stay! but I had to hex edit all the text out and the navi.exe file before it would fit back into the bin but it all works and I have 3.5! I can try and host the file for you
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that would be great
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Originally Posted by Roger555
I got it working and the cracks to stay! but I had to hex edit all the text out and the navi.exe file before it would fit back into the bin but it all works and I have 3.5! I can try and host the file for you
Roger 555 that would be great. I am having difficulty in getting the no nag hack to work. Ugh!
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"GO" button in lower right of screen after trying no nag hack

OK, so I think I followed the directions correctly. I started with the orange 3.5 CD, and modified BNHH401A.BIN for the no nag hack. But after loading the hack CD and then the 3.5 disc back into the DVD reader, this is what happens:

*Turn the key to ACC
*Factory standard background screen appears for ~10 sec
*Blank screen appears for ~10 sec
*Then a button appears in the lower right with the word "GO".
*I push the GO button and it takes me to the map screen.

So this seems close to what I want, because the legal disclaimer doesn't appear, but I still have to push this button labeled "GO" to make the map appear. I am assuming that the hack completely eliminates the need to press a button and takes you to a map.

Any suggestions on what is wrong and how to fix it?

Thanks... -Brian
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This looks cool I would like to try it soon.
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Hello everyone, first of all I love my 04 TL and this is only the first that i found out that there is a way to hack it the navi. After reading through the threads, and absorbing all those infos, i really got confused. from what files to download and and which programs to use. I would appreciate it if some could help me out in hacking my navi or just even point me out to the threads that already has the solution and the files to be downloaded.

i have a 3.30d navi cd.

Thank you guys for your help.

This forum is awesome and the people behind it.

cheers.
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wow great info.. but with so many versions of nav discs.. is there a sticky version that separates out the nav versions?
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Hi guys, newbie here
Have been reading this forum for 5 years now to a lot of good use.

I have a 04 TL and need a newer version of the orange DVD. I have the 3.10 version. I am moving to Virginia and the 3.10 doesnt help at all. I guess any update would be welcome
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Originally Posted by anvaflip
Hello everyone, first of all I love my 04 TL and this is only the first that i found out that there is a way to hack it the navi. After reading through the threads, and absorbing all those infos, i really got confused. from what files to download and and which programs to use. I would appreciate it if some could help me out in hacking my navi or just even point me out to the threads that already has the solution and the files to be downloaded.

i have a 3.30d navi cd.

Thank you guys for your help.

This forum is awesome and the people behind it.

cheers.
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+1 have the 3.50 disk also confused. We need a nice idiot proof step by step guide with pics. Then I know I can get it.

I hope someone can pull that off!!
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that would be sweet!
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Question

I have an 07 TL with Navi. Got transferred to Alaska. Acura will not provide the database for the navi to work up here. Anyone able to tell me how I can modify the nav system to work in Alaska?

As you can imagine this is really frustrating! When the car doesn't know where it is you can't set the clock. I even went looking to trade it in! Problem is no other car I found was as fast or as nice as the TL. I could really use some advice.

Thanks
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man i'm having a issue with repacking the files back together... can any one just upload the files that need to be burned to dvd online some where :-) please please pretty please :-)


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