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Old 07-17-2006 | 12:38 AM
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Well it has been confirmed that the new '07 TL will have more than 280HP
Will you be kind to share this "confirmed" source?
Old 07-17-2006 | 01:05 AM
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Alright guys enjoy:

I just came back from the show and there will be indeed a type-s version with 295hp.
The type-s will come with the 3.5l engine while the standard model is the same 3.2l. There are minor changes to the exterior of the car most noticable the fog lights are now placed on the bottom of the car. The back headlights are just as the pictures for the Chinese TL without the reflector on the bottom. The interior is pretty much the same except for the newest version of the navigation system and mp3 play back capability on the stereo. I will upload pics later..
Old 07-17-2006 | 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by mecca88
Alright guys enjoy:

I just came back from the show and there will be indeed a type-s version with 295hp.
The type-s will come with the 3.5l engine while the standard model is the same 3.2l. There are minor changes to the exterior of the car most noticable the fog lights are now placed on the bottom of the car. The back headlights are just as the pictures for the Chinese TL without the reflector on the bottom. The interior is pretty much the same except for the newest version of the navigation system and mp3 play back capability on the stereo. I will upload pics later..
I guess AWD won't be available since it wasn't mentioned. Bummer.
Old 07-17-2006 | 01:16 AM
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ACURA salesperson said he had info: amjadchahayed@yahoo.com
Old 07-17-2006 | 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by mecca88
Alright guys enjoy:

I just came back from the show and there will be indeed a type-s version with 295hp.
The type-s will come with the 3.5l engine while the standard model is the same 3.2l. There are minor changes to the exterior of the car most noticable the fog lights are now placed on the bottom of the car. The back headlights are just as the pictures for the Chinese TL without the reflector on the bottom. The interior is pretty much the same except for the newest version of the navigation system and mp3 play back capability on the stereo. I will upload pics later..
Nice!!! looks like someone on the forum did go!

Mecca...any word on the pricing for the Type-S? oh, and are there any exterior changes (Wheels, body kit, etc) for it?

Anyway, can't wait to see the pics tomorrow! lol, now i can FINALLY go to sleep

Thanks Mecca!
Old 07-17-2006 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by mecca88
Alright guys enjoy:

I just came back from the show and there will be indeed a type-s version with 295hp.
The type-s will come with the 3.5l engine while the standard model is the same 3.2l. There are minor changes to the exterior of the car most noticable the fog lights are now placed on the bottom of the car. The back headlights are just as the pictures for the Chinese TL without the reflector on the bottom. The interior is pretty much the same except for the newest version of the navigation system and mp3 play back capability on the stereo. I will upload pics later..
I don't know if this is true. What will the regular TL 3.2 do, still 258? I believe if the TL gets the 3.5, it will be well over 300HP to justify the increase in displacement. The 3.2 has to do well over 275 to compete in today HP game. I'm think a 30HP in the 3.5 to a 305HP in the Type-S.
Old 07-17-2006 | 01:21 AM
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Hi all. This is my first post. I was thinking about an 06, but decided to shoot for an 07 to avoid having a quickly depreciating 06. I'm still waiting like everyone else to see it. I decided to check Kelley blue book to get prices of TL's for different years and got a bit of a shock. A good condition 2003 TL goes for about $20,000 max. But a 2004 goes for around $27,700!! However there is only a difference of about $2000 between an 05 and an 04 or other years.

I know the 04 is 3rd generation, but a nearly $8000 drop in the 03?!? This led me to worry about buying the 07 since the TL will be redesigned in 09. I know the 07 will drop in price a little faster when the 09 comes out, and didn't mind. It's a given that it will. But if it's going to drop $8000 over night, that worries me. Did the 2003 drop $7700 instantly in November of 2003 when the 3rd generation came out? Just like that? Or did it gradually fall and is finally now that much less than an 04? I'm hoping it's more of a gradual thing.

Anyone with more experience know how it works? I also didn't want to wait until 2009 to finally get Navi either. So that's why I'm still interested in the 06 or 07. I hope we get to see the 07 soon.
Old 07-17-2006 | 01:24 AM
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Thanks a lot mecca!
Old 07-17-2006 | 01:29 AM
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Yes, thanks mecca. I guess we'll all have new pics tomorrow! ... At this point I probably won't be able to resist getting one regardless of what an 09 would be.
Old 07-17-2006 | 01:46 AM
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Hi all. This is my first post. I was thinking about an 06, but decided to shoot for an 07 to avoid having a quickly depreciating 06. I'm still waiting like everyone else to see it. I decided to check Kelley blue book to get prices of TL's for different years and got a bit of a shock. A good condition 2003 TL goes for about $20,000 max. But a 2004 goes for around $27,700!! However there is only a difference of about $2000 between an 05 and an 04 or other years.

I know the 04 is 3rd generation, but a nearly $8000 drop in the 03?!? This led me to worry about buying the 07 since the TL will be redesigned in 09. I know the 07 will drop in price a little faster when the 09 comes out, and didn't mind. It's a given that it will. But if it's going to drop $8000 over night, that worries me. Did the 2003 drop $7700 instantly in November of 2003 when the 3rd generation came out? Just like that? Or did it gradually fall and is finally now that much less than an 04? I'm hoping it's more of a gradual thing.

Anyone with more experience know how it works? I also didn't want to wait until 2009 to finally get Navi either. So that's why I'm still interested in the 06 or 07. I hope we get to see the 07 soon.
Amount of miles and condition plays a big role. But anytime a FMC comes out the last gen goes down by at least 4-5K.
Old 07-17-2006 | 02:08 AM
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Amount of miles and condition plays a big role. But anytime a FMC comes out the last gen goes down by at least 4-5K.
Thanks AltecBX.. That probably always going to be true...

I also realized a mistake I made. I forgot that the 2004 was increased about $3500 over the 2003.. So the $7800 price drop I worried over isn't real. Whew! I feel better now.

Can hardly wait to see pics! I even googled around hoping to find another group that had them first.. But I doubt it. Bring on the 07 TL!
Old 07-17-2006 | 02:27 AM
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Did the '07 TL get the Paddle shifters? I know the G35 has them, Honda Fit has them, why not the TL-Type-S.
Old 07-17-2006 | 02:35 AM
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Guys.. I'm just kidding. lol. Sorry I couldn't resist.. I don't know what's installed for '07.
Old 07-17-2006 | 04:02 AM
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Guys.. I'm just kidding. lol. Sorry I couldn't resist.. I don't know what's installed for '07.

aw......... that wasn't nice at all.
Old 07-17-2006 | 04:04 AM
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Guys.. I'm just kidding. lol. Sorry I couldn't resist.. I don't know what's installed for '07.

As if it were even funny. Why is it that people keep thinking it's funny to tell everyone they know what the car will be, but they don't? It's like they think, "Wow, everyone really wants to know.. It would be funny to tell them I know!".... Yet they can't think far enough into the future to see it really isn't that HaHa funny.

I don't care who says they know what the car will look like. I probably won't believe anyone at this point. This is at least the 3rd time this happens.

Even if someone posts photos of a 2007 TL, it will probably be a fake. I'm good at fake pictures. I could do it easily. So why couldn't someone else?
Old 07-17-2006 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mecca88
Guys.. I'm just kidding. lol. Sorry I couldn't resist.. I don't know what's installed for '07.
Old 07-17-2006 | 10:00 AM
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I have to say, that the way i motiviated myself this monday morning was thinking "hey when you get to work maybe there will be some info" it made the monday morning commute much more palatable.
Old 07-17-2006 | 10:14 AM
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I hear there is going to be info on August 22-23rd on all new 2007 Honda models.
Old 07-17-2006 | 10:21 AM
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I personally have been fairly interested in the upcoming model too, unfortunately I wasn't able to make it out to Nemacolin this weekend because of a prior commitment.

However, if we dont get any more info till the upcoming weekend, I'll try and make it out there (live 45 min away from Nemacolin) and see what I can find. Btw does anyone know if registrations are still open ? I dont wanna seem like a paparazzi taking shots especially without a registration
Old 07-17-2006 | 10:22 AM
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You would think that someone would have taken pics from Nemacolin and posted them SOMEWHERE. Or if not pictures, just information.
Old 07-17-2006 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by kamal
I personally have been fairly interested in the upcoming model too, unfortunately I wasn't able to make it out to Nemacolin this weekend because of a prior commitment.

However, if we dont get any more info till the upcoming weekend, I'll try and make it out there (live 45 min away from Nemacolin) and see what I can find. Btw does anyone know if registrations are still open ? I dont wanna seem like a paparazzi taking shots especially without a registration
No, it's not still open. I tried. I live about 30 minutes away and tried contacting multiple people.
Old 07-17-2006 | 10:30 AM
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what are the chances they'll let attendees test drive the vehicles around the property at Nemacolin, in that case, it would be a good idea to linger around and take some photos at the least? maybe even benefit from any last minute drop outs from the list to attend ??
Old 07-17-2006 | 10:56 AM
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You could always give it a shot
Old 07-17-2006 | 11:21 AM
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Any news?? I can't believe there's still no news..
Old 07-17-2006 | 11:29 AM
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Any news?? I can't believe there's still no news..
Werd!
Old 07-17-2006 | 12:22 PM
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Irritating

I just feel like smashing the heads of the Honda management, why can't they announce information on their upcoming models on their website like other even more successful comapnies (Toyota) do, instead they get some sort of sadistic joy in keep people guessing. I hope it backfires and people start looking the otherway.
Old 07-17-2006 | 12:48 PM
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I just feel like smashing the heads of the Honda management, why can't they announce information on their upcoming models on their website like other even more successful comapnies (Toyota) do, instead they get some sort of sadistic joy in keep people guessing. I hope it backfires and people start looking the otherway.
I definitely agree with you there, every other Japanese company has already announced their new 07s, damn even Toyota already has their new 07 Camry out, no wonder they are doing financially better than Honda right now. Especially if its not a model change year, why keep the 07 TL such a secret to the world. Your hope might even come true if the new TL doesn't have at least 295hp and isn't able to keep up with the other 07 counterparts, it may just backfire on them with sales. Oh well what can you really do....
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They probably dont want to piss of the media that does make a big hit to everyone like Car & Driver. Then next time they need them, they wont be there.
Old 07-17-2006 | 12:56 PM
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Well since the Press Event runs from the 16th-19th, someone might post some info for us on the 19th or 20th, at least I am really hoping that is the case.
Old 07-17-2006 | 01:16 PM
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2007 Tl?!?!

Saw this on the NHTSA site. It looks like a 2006 but is says 2007 for the crash testing.
It says daytime running lights are standard on 2007 if you look at the details in the page.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/ncap/cars/3999.html
Old 07-17-2006 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by davenlei
Saw this on the NHTSA site. It looks like a 2006 but is says 2007 for the crash testing.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/ncap/cars/3999.html
this link has been posted several times before in this same thread.
Old 07-17-2006 | 01:19 PM
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this link has been posted several times before in this same thread.
You beat me to it.

See page #30
Old 07-17-2006 | 01:21 PM
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Ah, sorry. I stopped reading this thread after page 10 and only check back on the last page once in a while.
Old 07-17-2006 | 01:22 PM
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Ah, sorry. I stopped reading this thread after page 10 and only check back on the last page once in a while.
lol understandable.
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if the new TL doesn't have at least 295hp
Get real with expectations buddy. Yes, to be competitive, the Type-S probably will need about 290 hp. But, just 4 years ago, the Mustang Cobra had 310 hp. The 540i had 282 hp, and the Honda Accord had 200. HP numbers keep growing, as do insurance rates for these cars, wheras peoples driving skills don't. SIX years ago, 200hp was the sedan benchmark. Now, it's almost 300.
295hp is a lot of power, more than most average people can handle, and more than most will ever need to use. The power wars need to end.
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Get real with expectations buddy. Yes, to be competitive, the Type-S probably will need about 290 hp. But, just 4 years ago, the Mustang Cobra had 310 hp. The 540i had 282 hp, and the Honda Accord had 200. HP numbers keep growing, as do insurance rates for these cars, wheras peoples driving skills don't. SIX years ago, 200hp was the sedan benchmark. Now, it's almost 300.
295hp is a lot of power, more than most average people can handle, and more than most will ever need to use. The power wars need to end.
WHAT!?!?

295hp is "more than most people can handle" ? "The power wars need to end." !?!?

Maybe you're saying it's more power than you can handle, but I have 2 cars right now - 335hp and 306hp, and I'm able to handle them both fine. Furthermore, there are times when that's not enough hp ... like on the highway when you need to pass a big rig and all of a sudden a car approaches from the opposite direction. I'll take all the horsepower I can get!

I'm thrilled the mfr's have a hp war going ... it's the best thing that's come along for us since the musclecars of the sixties.
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Yes, but the one thing the sixties didn't have was $3.00 / gal gas!
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Does anyone remember when they saw the first pictures of the 2006 last year? Maybe if someone knows of an old Acurazine thread from last year we could go back and see what date the first pictures showed up.. That might give us an indication as to when Acura releases information. What about old press releases? I tried briefly in google, but still haven't found anything yet. Just a thought....
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Originally Posted by sweetride01
Get real with expectations buddy. Yes, to be competitive, the Type-S probably will need about 290 hp. But, just 4 years ago, the Mustang Cobra had 310 hp. The 540i had 282 hp, and the Honda Accord had 200. HP numbers keep growing, as do insurance rates for these cars, wheras peoples driving skills don't. SIX years ago, 200hp was the sedan benchmark. Now, it's almost 300.
295hp is a lot of power, more than most average people can handle, and more than most will ever need to use. The power wars need to end.

Yes I have no idea what you are talking about, times have changed, we live in a fast paced world, looks like you have some catchin up to do....
Also with the horsepower competition its actually keepin the prices somewhat down. I think the base TL should be like 295 and the Type-S should be like 320 or so.....
Old 07-17-2006 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sweetride01
Get real with expectations buddy. Yes, to be competitive, the Type-S probably will need about 290 hp. But, just 4 years ago, the Mustang Cobra had 310 hp. The 540i had 282 hp, and the Honda Accord had 200. HP numbers keep growing, as do insurance rates for these cars, wheras peoples driving skills don't. SIX years ago, 200hp was the sedan benchmark. Now, it's almost 300.
295hp is a lot of power, more than most average people can handle, and more than most will ever need to use. The power wars need to end.
although i do love power, car manufactures are goins pretty high on stock cars. and while some can easily handle the power, there are many that can't, but think they can. which usually leads to accidents. kind of scary that almost any one is able to sit behind the wheel of such powerful cars.

but i dont think they are going to stop increasing power anytime soon, especially with the whole forced induction theme spreading to car companies (ie. srt4, cobalt, bmw twin turbo 3-series, acura rdx, that new mazada suv, etc)


but i also think anything above 290 on the TL will HURT RL sales. considering the RL isnt a big seller in the first place, making the type-s faster then the RL mite be a bad move on acura's part.


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