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So my metallic plastidip should be in by tomorrow! I said I would go ahead and do my wheels this week but my contact came through and I finally ordered my drilled rotors! Along with some Hawk sport pads. They have to make the front for me so I should be getting them in 2 weeks or so. Might hold off and spray my wheels as I do my rotors! Anyways here is a pic...
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So my metallic plastidip should be in by tomorrow! I said I would go ahead and do my wheels this week but my contact came through and I finally ordered my drilled rotors! Along with some Hawk sport pads. They have to make the front for me so I should be getting them in 2 weeks or so. Might hold off and spray my wheels as I do my rotors! Anyways here is a pic...
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Glad, I wont have to worry about this rotor problem Acura could never fix!
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^^^ I personally dont like drilled rotors....in my opinion making holes in a pattern in something solid does make it weaker....
am running the powerslot slotted rotors since 4 years without an issue....i have 80K miles on them and they are not showing any sign of wear....am using them with HAWK HPS pads and i cudnt be happier....
my rear brakes pads are on there since 80K miles and still a ton of life left and front's i replaced after 40K miles and they still had another 8-10K miles in them...the second set of fronts have 40K miles on em and still going good
PS: they brake on a dime....yes there is brake dust but i can live with that
am running the powerslot slotted rotors since 4 years without an issue....i have 80K miles on them and they are not showing any sign of wear....am using them with HAWK HPS pads and i cudnt be happier....
my rear brakes pads are on there since 80K miles and still a ton of life left and front's i replaced after 40K miles and they still had another 8-10K miles in them...the second set of fronts have 40K miles on em and still going good
PS: they brake on a dime....yes there is brake dust but i can live with that
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^ do your hawks squeal at all?
I regret doing the brake service now... i got new oem rotors/pads... then again i got the rebate... oh well, next time around
I regret doing the brake service now... i got new oem rotors/pads... then again i got the rebate... oh well, next time around
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Hmmm... I work in the Gas Turbine industry and you couldn't be farther from the truth. The holes are for cooling, which in turn strengthens the material at higher temperatures. Cooling holes are an absolute MUST in order to dissipate heat, and that's what these rotors accomplish. PM me if you want a further explanation, the thermo dynamics that actually makes the holes work is pretty amazing in my opinion.
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Hmmm... I work in the Gas Turbine industry and you couldn't be farther from the truth. The holes are for cooling, which in turn strengthens the material at higher temperatures. Cooling holes are an absolute MUST in order to dissipate heat, and that's what these rotors accomplish. PM me if you want a further explanation, the thermo dynamics that actually makes the holes work is pretty amazing in my opinion.
well the way your explaining it makes sense....but this is how i thought:
rapid heating + rapid cooling makes any metal a little brittle....and the holes add to it and weaken the rotors....
but i know what you mean....i dont think we run our rotors at that heat level as in the Gas Turbine but i could be wrong here....
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only the cold stop....the 1st brake in the morning squeals....other than that NOPE !!! no noise !!!
no need to at me LOL....
well the way your explaining it makes sense....but this is how i thought:
rapid heating + rapid cooling makes any metal a little brittle....and the holes add to it and weaken the rotors....
but i know what you mean....i dont think we run our rotors at that heat level as in the Gas Turbine but i could be wrong here....
no need to at me LOL....
well the way your explaining it makes sense....but this is how i thought:
rapid heating + rapid cooling makes any metal a little brittle....and the holes add to it and weaken the rotors....
but i know what you mean....i dont think we run our rotors at that heat level as in the Gas Turbine but i could be wrong here....
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Hey check this out...
"1For the sports sedan, the coefficient of friction was 21% higher for drilled rotors than standard front rotors at 340F and higher using 15 brake snubs at 62mph. The track simulated 124 mph fade test showed 37% better brake output for drilled rotors. The drilled rotor brake temperature was about 150 degrees cooler.
2.For the performance car, the coefficient of friction was significantly higher for drilled rotors especially at high temperature.
3.Wet braking at high pedal pressure was the same for drilled or standard rotors. Wet braking is not significantly improved by drilled rotors.
4.Pedal force was much more consistent with drilled rotors over the brake temperature range. That is, to stop at the same deceleration rate, the driver does not need to modulate pedal pressure based on different brake temperatures. This reduces driver fatigue and improves brake response.
Check out the entire article here... http://reviews.ebay.com/ebaymotors/D...00000005243690
Also, keep in mind... the person who wrote the last paragraph about slotted rotors had no real evidence to support his claim (plus he was still in college) lol
"1For the sports sedan, the coefficient of friction was 21% higher for drilled rotors than standard front rotors at 340F and higher using 15 brake snubs at 62mph. The track simulated 124 mph fade test showed 37% better brake output for drilled rotors. The drilled rotor brake temperature was about 150 degrees cooler.
2.For the performance car, the coefficient of friction was significantly higher for drilled rotors especially at high temperature.
3.Wet braking at high pedal pressure was the same for drilled or standard rotors. Wet braking is not significantly improved by drilled rotors.
4.Pedal force was much more consistent with drilled rotors over the brake temperature range. That is, to stop at the same deceleration rate, the driver does not need to modulate pedal pressure based on different brake temperatures. This reduces driver fatigue and improves brake response.
Check out the entire article here... http://reviews.ebay.com/ebaymotors/D...00000005243690
Also, keep in mind... the person who wrote the last paragraph about slotted rotors had no real evidence to support his claim (plus he was still in college) lol
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Well, brittleness has to do with the bonds made within the specific material. So no matter how much or little material you have the brittleness will not change. But I think what you mean is the ability to withstand stress (or true stress.) True stress is more of a concern for metals and materials that will be withstanding substantial loads, (load bearing). That's when you want to know at what temperature,pressure, etc will the material fracture, or the propagation of cracks will occur (fatigue limit) But since our rotors are not concerned with opposing a load (negligible for our purpose of explanation) we don't have to worry about that. What we do have to worry about is deformation of the material, which is directly related to heat! Now if we know at what temperature we start to have deformation and we are not concerned with carrying a load, cooling holes are a perfect way to ensure that metal never reaches the deformation point.... alright alright, i know no one likes to be lectured but I love this stuff, I could talk for days if people would let me lol.
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i dont know why you guys are arguing. just buy a carbon ceramic brake system for the TSX, problem solved
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Wasn't trying to argue or prove a point, I guess you guys don't find it as interesting as I do.
In the end... they look cool, and perform!
In the end... they look cool, and perform!
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great edit
we are not arguing KG....we were having a healthy discussion....
I agree with you....
i still wudnt put drilled rotors on my car but well LOL....i understand you point
i still wudnt put drilled rotors on my car but well LOL....i understand you point
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yeah you guessed it!!
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damn, turns out my play dough idea did not work the way I wanted. was going to use the it to cover up the A on my centercaps before I painted but I couldnt get it to stick. Looks like Ill have black centers until I do my rotors and re-paint the inside A red again. Anyways, more pictures throughout the day.
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Before
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paint or plastic dip ???
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Last coat of plasti dip before metallic plastidip!!!
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Looks great bro....
any plans of dropping her a little more low ?
any plans of dropping her a little more low ?
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^^^ Yes, I actually have s-techs sitting in my closet lol. After I get my rims painted, and install my rotors, the drop will be next. Also, waiting on MoaarLow to find the best spacer set up on stock wheels.
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^^^ LOL ok...
but yeah looks good so far...drop and spacer will set it aside
but yeah looks good so far...drop and spacer will set it aside
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I know, too many mods and too little time lol. And a heads up for the rest of the community. It's starting to get a little toasty here in FLA... next photo shoot with the lady is eminent.
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Idk guys... here is the metallic! Idk if it's the sunlight/shade messing it up, it was really hard to see how much I was spraying on. And when I backed farther away it almost looked blue Maybe I can get some more good shots under some better lighting, and after it has completely dried. Here is so far...
Left rear metallized..
BOTH
Left rear metallized..
BOTH
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FAWK DUDE !!!
that looookkkssss hot !!! i like that color a lotttt....
that looookkkssss hot !!! i like that color a lotttt....
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Yeah, I think the second photo captures the true color the best. More shots after I clean up the tire, and try to get the dip out of the A in my center caps! ENJOY!!!
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Can you posts links of the products you used and where you got em from ?
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Normal matte black plastidip can be found anywhere, and all the special plastidip can be found at http://dipyourcar.com/ I used silver metallizer. Shipping is a little pricey but he got my cans to me in 3 days!
I looked at it again and it definitely came out the way I wanted, now to capture some pictures to show you guys! Next painting mod will be strut bar (when I have time lol)
I looked at it again and it definitely came out the way I wanted, now to capture some pictures to show you guys! Next painting mod will be strut bar (when I have time lol)
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Joe does the metalizer work like the regular plastidips...if I want it to spray it will it just produce like metallic flakes mixed with like clear dip...
basically do I need to spray it on top of plasti-dip or can be stand alone and is it easily removable like plasti-dip if used by itself???
basically do I need to spray it on top of plasti-dip or can be stand alone and is it easily removable like plasti-dip if used by itself???
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^^ it's exactly how you described, basically a clear dip with metallic "flakes." It is supposed to peel off just like plastidip however it says directly on the can it is to be sprayed over plastidip. I don't think it would hurt anything if you used it alone, you probably wouldn't get the same effect though. If u have anything in mind I can do a test for you so you can see the results before you buy.
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On a side note, has anyone gotten their Azine stickers yet from Christmas???
On a tangential side note, I like how the thank you button has been a substitute for "Like" button on fb lol.
On a tangential side note, I like how the thank you button has been a substitute for "Like" button on fb lol.
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^^ it's exactly how you described, basically a clear dip with metallic "flakes." It is supposed to peel off just like plastidip however it says directly on the can it is to be sprayed over plastidip. I don't think it would hurt anything if you used it alone, you probably wouldn't get the same effect though. If u have anything in mind I can do a test for you so you can see the results before you buy.
I have a few cans of clear plasti-dip...I am planning to spray the window trims and door handles with the clear dip so it gets that flat silver look(the less chrome the better)... now Im thinking if I just spray it with the metalizer itself I wonder if I can kill two birds with one stone have the flat silver look with little subtle metallic flakes on it ...
..If you wanna test on door handles and take pics before I buy would be great
edit: if you do try can you do it without putting a base coat of the black plasti-dip...and just spray the metalizer as a stand alone
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I honestly don't think the metallizer is going to give you the flat silver look you want. If you just spray metallizer on it, it'll look like tinker bell took a shit on your door handles. I'm guessing u want a color similar to the oem smiley face part of the grille. I would buy grey plastidip and spray clear coat over that.
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Oh okay screw the metalizer for the door handles then...plasti-dip does not have a grey/silver color but when the clear dip is sprayed on the chrome it makes it a flat silver...
Thanks for the heads up!
Thanks for the heads up!