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Old 06-25-2004, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by CLS2001_97124
Also, remember guys, trying out B map without some higher oct gas does you no good. If anything, you car will produce less power. I wouldn't waste the time.

The gas station i'm going to has 100 and 105 which should I get. And I can only get enough to fill a gas can. They won't let you fill it directly into your car. So 5 gallons of which 100 or 105?
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If you are mixing with 93 then I would go with the 105. But whose 105 is this??
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He's probably getting it from the race track.
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Originally Posted by scalbert
If you are mixing with 93 then I would go with the 105. But whose 105 is this??
I don't remember what gas station brand it is. I'm down to less than half a tank. I drove 240 miles yesterday LOL. To get the gas is another 20 miles to the station and then another 15 or so to the dyno. So I will only have maybe 7 gallons, give or take a gallon, by the time I'm at the dyno.
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Yep. Already thought of that. 1st runs will be with Map A, then probably 2 with Map B running 100+ octane, then i'll uninstall the chip for baseline.
It sure would be interesting to see how Map A compared to Map B with just regular 93 gas before you make your run with 100+ octane. Map B is not giving me any CELs but can't tell if the ECU is compensating by changing timing. Your dyno would defiantly let us all know if there were any gains running Map B with normal 93 octane. Butt-dyno is indecisive as of yet.
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Yeah, I feel i go screwed! I don't think i should have had to pay more considering that i have no b map now, only A and nos i think it should have been the same price
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Originally Posted by CLS2001_97124
Also, remember guys, trying out B map without some higher oct gas does you no good. If anything, you car will produce less power. I wouldn't waste the time.
okay... was typing and did not see this yet, oh well.
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
I don't remember what gas station brand it is. I'm down to less than half a tank. I drove 240 miles yesterday LOL. To get the gas is another 20 miles to the station and then another 15 or so to the dyno. So I will only have maybe 7 gallons, give or take a gallon, by the time I'm at the dyno.
Definitely go with the 105 then

((93 * 7) + (105 * 5)) / 12 = 98 octane final.
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Old 06-25-2004, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by scalbert
Definitely go with the 105 then

((93 * 7) + (105 * 5)) / 12 = 98 octane final.

Maybe I'll just drive more... HAHA
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Originally Posted by withoutcomp1
Yeah, I feel i go screwed! I don't think i should have had to pay more considering that i have no b map now, only A and nos i think it should have been the same price
The development of the NOS map took considerably more R&D. If you are running the same ZEX kit like Matt the uni-chip will control the entire NOS system. It will cut off the NOS right before redline for safety, etc. I feel $100 more is well worth it for 300+ whp on a 75 shot.
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Old 06-25-2004, 10:51 AM
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I think Matt should shed some light on what was needed in order to get his car the way it is. I mean, from what I've read, not only they made more power with the Unichip on Zex, they also made it safer, and staright forward by intergrating their chip with the Zex switch. I mean, you are literally getting a whole different product then what the NA guys are getting if you think about it. Different map, different wire hook up, and a different setup for switch controls. I think say if one of the guys later on went NOS, and it probably cost about that to get it remapped and rewired?
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Old 06-25-2004, 11:50 AM
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Okay cool, thanks for explaining it a little better Todd really didn't tell me anything of why it was costing more. Sounds good now i just need to get my car back! Will it come with instructions on how to connect it to the NOS ? Thanks alot guys! Now i don't feel like i got screwed that you explained it better. i can't wait!
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Old 06-25-2004, 01:01 PM
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Just got my unichip. I'll be installing it this weekend. This should be fun!!!
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
I would think the memory seats would be deleted once you unhook the negative cable. I didn't attempt to use them so I wouldn't know for sure. Don't know about the auto down (don't have up) though.
i too lost the auto-up auto-down feature but was able to reset it. Have to check on the memory seat.
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Originally Posted by CLS2001_97124
I think you missed my previous post... a few pages back

What exactly do you mean by turning it off? you mean unplugging it? If so, then no, the dealer will not be able to detect anything unusual.
saw you post just wasnt clear. Ok our unichip came with 2 switches, a/b & the other i would have to assume would be on/off. If i turn off, is my car strickly running off the oem ecu. Thus chip undetectable?
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Old 06-25-2004, 02:54 PM
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The other switch is the ECU reset switch. There is no on/off button for this chip. You want it off, you'll have to just unplug it. Should be in the instructions. :o
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Originally Posted by CLS2001_97124
The other switch is the ECU reset switch. There is no on/off button for this chip. You want it off, you'll have to just unplug it. Should be in the instructions. :o
thanks Brian, thats what i was afraid of. Anyone know if when you take your car in for service if they actually put it on a scope, & if they did scope it, Would the Unichip easily be detected?
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I've been ripped

http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...54#post1895954
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
I hope everything ends up working out. Hopefully they just didn't see a bunch of eager people and developed a product that doesn't work as advertised.
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But then we have this thread...http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145395
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Maybe it's just Map B that is screwed up.
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Maybe it's just Map B that is screwed up.
Map B yielded identical gains to Map A. No change whatsoever. I'm pissed off.
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maybe every car needs to be tuned different, cause even with the same mods my car can run leaner/ richer than yours and vice versa
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Originally Posted by J.T.'s 3.2TL
I hope everything ends up working out. Hopefully they just didn't see a bunch of eager people and developed a product that doesn't work as advertised.

Is it funny that the only dyno's we have seen (besideds mine) are directly from Uni-Chip??!? Hmmmm... little fishy if you ask me. Plus they weren't actual whp they were crank corrected. This all makes me sick right now.
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mr. steve i know your pissed but this may not be uni-chips fault, could be a # of different factors

before u put in the 100 octane how did your butt dyno feel???
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Originally Posted by darrinb
mr. steve i know your pissed but this may not be uni-chips fault, could be a # of different factors

before u put in the 100 octane how did your butt dyno feel???
I put the 100 octane in it when I got to the dyno. I couldn't put it directly into the car at the gas station because legally it is "off road use only" So I didnt' drive it on the street with the chip+100 octane.

The butt dyno felt like there was power there, but that may have been because when I reset the ECU I felt like power had been lost until I had drove around a lot.
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where did everyone go, haven't seen anything new in a couple of days?
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i will write up my review as soon as i get strap it on, gonna do a dyno soon too
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i will write up my review as soon as i get strap it on, gonna do a dyno soon too
when you gettin it done darrin? I'm really curious to see your dyno as is everyone else.
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Is it funny that the only dyno's we have seen (besideds mine) are directly from Uni-Chip??!? Hmmmm... little fishy if you ask me. Plus they weren't actual whp they were crank corrected. This all makes me sick right now.
I mentioned this is a Mrsteve's thread, i'll repeat it here.

My original dyno was done at a 3rd party dyno shop, and this shop has been around for a long time, longer than/prior to Unichip moving from CA to OR. I've posted that dyno as well as the Unichip version.

mrsteve, i know and understand how you must feel, but lets just wait and see what others have come up with in terms of results. Your statement about question their dyno could be said about yours, lets just wait and see how others do, and if the result is the same, I will go down there myself to get an answer from them personally.

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i havent goten the chip yet, but i might not have time to get the dyno if they dont open late...
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I just made an appointment at Performance Autosport in VA that has installed a Dynojet 224x. They do mostly Saleen Mustangs there but their dyno is open to all. I told him that I'm interested in a with and without Unichip dyno and a/f results. Mike, the owner, was like "yea... those chip guys (generically speaking) can talk some big gains... bring it on down and we'll show you exactly your gains." Just as an additional reference Can't get there until Sat. morning though.
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i am getting the chip on wens, just got my tracking #'s today
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Steve,

Thanks for the e-mail. This should be a pretty easy fix. The car is obviously a bit too lean, and but that can easily be accounted from individual vehicle tolerances, and can be quickly corrected.

One thing to note from the dyno sheet is that even being too lean, the only place the car’s making less power is above 6,300 rpm. (Yeah like 2 more whp) It will definitely make more power once the Unichip’s directed to get a bit more fuel in there. Do you have any other modifications on the car other than the intake, headers, and axel back which might account for the difference?

I see you got the dyno pulls at Altered Atmosphere… they are a Unichip shop although they haven’t done anything in quite a while. Is there a reason they didn’t just jump in there and add some fuel? If the car was already on the dyno, they could have corrected the A/F in ten minutes.

To correct things, we can proceed one of two ways. The best would be to go back to Altered Atmosphere and have them do a tune. Alternatively, you can send the Unichip back and we’ll modify the map to pull less fuel at full load. The later I can do for free, but you’d have to work something out with AA.

Tony my lead tuner will also call you later today to find out how you want to proceed. You can also shoot me an e-mail.



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I might be going to Altered Atmopshere tomorrow and see what they can do.

I am on my second transmission with the new PCM. This might make a difference eh?
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Great to see that jack is standing by it. Weird that Altered Atmosphere didnt tell you they were a unichip shop though, and weird that they didnt offer to go in and fix it in the first place.

I still swear I feel gains all over the place, but it IS starting to act a little weird. Once or twice I hit the gas and it felt like it hesitated then went. Sometimes at like 1\4 throttle the engine will be revving but it doesnt feel like its making power, then all of a sudden a little above 3K RPM I get this surge of power that feels as strong as VTEC engaging, and the car pulls HARD as hell to redline. Other than that the car is definetly running stronger all through the RPM band, straight to redline.
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Only disapointment is that I feel I have to do some dyno runs now to make sure I'm getting what I paid for. And may have to travel to a UniChip dealer to make things easiest.. Hmmm..
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Only disapointment is that I feel I have to do some dyno runs to make sure I'm getting what I paid for. And may have to travel to a UniChip dealer to make things easiest.. Hmmm..
I could test your chip on my car, although it seems like this might not work since the Map designed for Brian's and Matt's car isn't working on mine.
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How much did the dyno runs cost?
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$135 with air/fuel readings... that was for an entire hour's rental.
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I wish there was another way to test this to make sure I'm seeing/getting what I paid for.. How far away is that place from me ?
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