dom

And the TSX had a 4.0L V8 right?

Like everything else in this world, not all salespeople are created equal.

justinjsw

Its all good...un-inform salespeople are horrible. But remember this its because of the 0.00000000001% that informs...that sites like this exists. Without it you guys would be just as un-informed.

dom

I hate being un-informed.

So Justin, got any more info

justinjsw

justinjsw

A. You mean its not?
B. Maybe it was his first day on the job. And he had just moved to Canada from Europe where they are Accords, so TSXs means nothing to him. :blaze:

Dan Martin

That's why this forum r0x0rs!

I have to admit, Acura dealers are better than most for product knowledge.

kaikai114

when i went to Nissan to testdrive the 2004 Maxima, i asked the sales 2 questions then i gave up and walked out of the door after the testdrive. first thing i asked him, what is the power rating on the stereo system, answer was... "i don't know, let me check" so maybe that question was too specific, then i asked him how much horsepower and torque on the maxima, he hesitated and told me 250hp and just didnt know how much torque at all... oh well Nissan

Dan Martin

I usually have a couple of pretty technical questions about a car lined up before I go to a dealer. I don't really expect them to know what the answers are but if they start the I'll find another dealer. It's really just a test to see how they're going to handle the transaction.
My favorite question to ask is "how many channels does the ABS system on this car have?"

Very few salesmen have any idea what you're talking about but the guy I bought from understood what I was talking about and we had a good chat about the car.

iNteGraz92

yup, another useless feature

chabanais

Milano Red/Ebony interior

mobilezen

... I read through this whole thread, didn't see anywhere mentioning a green.

sauceman

Haha, props for reading it all, and no, there isn't any green, it's so 1996!

Anyways, you got PM.

xizor

2005 RSX has a new Jade Green color, but yeah, I don't think the TSX needs it

mobilezen

It would be a neat color though. What I don't understand is the 2 shades of silver then a gunmetal color...they're all so close. oh well.

update: OH MY BURNING EYES! I just went to the acura site to look at the jade green RSX....noooooooooooooo, such an ugly color that reminds me of the Emerald Green TL.

KingV

Urgh, I'd like the XM radio. It's very nice on my dad's TL.

Colin

4 channel ABS, it's the only way to have VSA incorporated!

Belzebutt

Good thing there isn't a green or some poor shmuck's wife might force him to get it. Almost happened to me on the old car.

Dan Martin

Very good Colin. You see, I could have bought a car from you.

Now I'll have to come up with something new to ask because my secret is no more...

ClutchPerformer

There IS a green. But I don't think it's that bad. Now, that orange color....

STL

I see the 2005 RL has a Tire Pressue Monitoring System. I wonder if the TSX will get one too?

tsxhondatuner

ya right that before heated mirrors

STL

Nothing new, but this makes it official:
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=265399

observer

One more thing: Milano Red w/ Ebony . . . from the same press release due tomorrow:

"For 2005, the TSX receives several comfort and convenience enhancements including standard XM Satellite Radio, heated door mirrors, and a 4-way adjustable power passenger seat. In addition, TSX models with Milano Red exterior color are now available with an Ebony interior."


http://autodeadline.com/detail?sourc...81569&mime=ASC

tsxhondatuner

so no DRL what a lier

acoga

While that's not been mentioned yet, IIRC those systems become mandatory soon, so they're appearing on a lot of cars. That would be a much-appreciated feature!

smileyw

I don't see anything about bluetooth, is that going to be an option or what?

gogozy

any chagnes to the MSRP?

JeffS

Having seen the color in person, it is nothing like Emerald Green. Jade Green is a silver green where as Emerald Green which is dark green. Jade is actually a cool color, but not for the RSX. Plus it is fairly close to Magnesium and they have the same interior color. Jade Green would look better on the TSX or even RL.

JeffS

Has the Parchment interior been replaced with the Ebony on the Milano Red, or can you pick between the two? Acura's statement was not clear.

escamar

how do they integrate XM into the TSX with navi????I would really like to get that...

dom

I don't think Milano Red is available at all for 05.

bigwilliestyle

I think Alpine supports it in the unit itself. Simply have to add the antenna.

escamar

wondering if i can have something like that added into my TSX...i really want to get XM into the ride...

dom

http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=15

Viking

Just found this:

dom

Giddy Up, that is going to be a hot seller. I would have bought it if I could have.

Viking

Ebony leather interior with Milano Red exterior

Viking

Well here is the offical Acura Media Release on the TSX in its entirety:

Acura TSX Combines Performance, Refinement and Style
Hot-Selling Sports Sedan Gets XM(R), other New Features for 2005


Torrance, Calif. 09/01/2004 -- The Acura TSX sports sedan combines a powerful engine, choice of 6-speed manual or 5-speed Sequential SportShiftTM automatic transmission, drive-by-wire throttle control system and race-bred suspension with an ergonomic interior filled with the latest technology to deliver a strong blend of performance, refinement and style.

"We had high expectations for the TSX, and it has exceeded those expectations in a big way," said Dick Colliver, executive vice president, auto sales. "The TSX has carved out a solid niche in the sports sedan segment and become an important component of our lineup."

For 2005, the TSX gets heated sideview mirrors and additional interior features including, a 4-way adjustable power passenger seat and standard XM(R) Satellite Radio, which provides over 100 stations of CD-quality music.

The TSX features an advanced 2.4 liter DOHC i-VTEC(TM) engine that generates 200 horsepower at 6800 rpm, 166 lb-ft of torque at 4500 rpm and overall performance comparable to some competitors with 6-cylinder powerplants. The i-VTEC "intelligent" valve-control system delivers enhanced performance across a broad power band in addition to improved fuel economy and reduced exhaust emissions. A direct ignition system with knock control helps to optimize power and fuel efficiency by ensuring a properly timed spark at all engine speeds.

The TSX engine is equipped with a drive-by-wire throttle control system that eliminates the need for a mechanical connection between the accelerator pedal and the engine, and continuously adjusts the sensitivity of the accelerator pedal to match current driving conditions. It also incorporates throttle control into the car's VSA (Vehicle Stability Assist(R)) system, controls the vehicle's cruise control function and modulates the throttle to help make automatic transmission shifts even smoother.

The TSX engine is equipped with platinum-tipped spark plugs and a self-adjusting cam chain to help it run for 110,000 miles before requiring a major scheduled tune-up.

Since many performance enthusiasts prefer shifting gears themselves, the TSX comes with a close-ratio 6-speed manual transmission or a compact 5-speed Sequential SportShift TM automatic transmission for an additional cost. The lightweight 6-speed gearbox features short shift throws and multi-cone synchronizers on all gears for quick, light shifting action. For the first time on an Acura, the transmission case is made from magnesium alloy, a material typically reserved for racing applications. This case weighs 6.6 pounds less than a comparable aluminum unit and is extremely rigid to damp out noise and vibration.

Despite its impressive 200 horsepower output, the TSX with manual transmission delivers 21 mpg city/30mpg highway, while the TSX with automatic transmission delivers 22 mpg city/31 mpg highway. Air-assisted fuel injectors, an underfloor catalyzer and a high-flow, low-heat mass exhaust manifold help the TSX achieve LEV-2 emissions status.

To complement its high-adrenaline powertrain with sports car-like handling, the TSX features an extremely rigid unit body structure and a race-bred, 4-wheel-independent double-wishbone suspension. The suspension is track-tuned to reduce lift, dive and body roll and boasts gas-pressurized shock absorbers and large front and rear stabilizer bars. A quick-ratio, variable power assist rack-and-pinion steering system provides outstanding feel and responsiveness and features an anti-kickback valve for reduced kickback on rough roads.

Handling is further enhanced through the application of a Vehicle Stability Assist system (VSA(R)) that works in concert with the braking and drive-by-wire throttle systems to provide enhanced control during acceleration, braking and cornering. This 4-channel system orchestrates the throttle and each of the vehicle's four disc brakes to seamlessly integrate traction control, Anti-lock braking and stability enhancement for increased driver control during acceleration, braking and cornering.

To provide stability and ensure superb stopping power, the TSX is equipped with 4-wheel disc brakes with 4-channel ABS, 17-inch alloy wheels and P215/50R17 Michelin tires.

The body of the TSX offers best-in-class aerodynamics and crisp sports sedan lines. In front, styling cues include a signature 5-sided Acura grille, style lines starting at the top of the front fender flares and gradually rising to the rear, High Intensity Discharge (HID) headlights and large air openings beneath the front bumper, which guide airflow to the radiator. In the rear, the backlight slopes to meet a short, high trunk lid, which terminates sharply to help air separate cleanly off the back of the car at speed. For 2005, heated sideview mirrors have been applied.

The TSX is available in seven exterior colors: Satin Silver Metallic, White Pearl, Nighthawk Black Pearl, Arctic Blue Metallic, Meteor Silver Metallic, Milano Red and Carbon Gray Pearl. For 2005, the Ebony leather interior is available on models with Milano Red exterior.

The five-passenger interior of the TSX is sporty yet refined with modern LED- illuminated instrumentation, intuitive controls, and a long list of standard luxury amenities. The comprehensively equipped TSX features deeply bolstered, perforated leather seating, a leather-wrapped three-spoke sport steering wheel with wheel-mounted audio and cruise control switches, dual-zone automatic climate control, a power moonroof, a 360-watt Acura Premium Sound System (which for 2005 receives standard XM(R) Satellite Radio), power windows and door locks and keyless entry. Standard 8-way power driver's seat adjustment and a tilt and telescopic steering wheel allow the TSX to accommodate a wide range of drivers. For 2005, a 4-way adjustable power passenger seat has been applied for increased comfort.

The Acura Navigation System with Voice Recognition (TM) is available as a factory-installed option. This latest-generation navigation system features an 8-inch touch screen display, a comprehensive destination guide with 7 million points of interest spanning the continental United States, 3-D graphics for freeway on and off ramps and turn-by-turn voice guidance.

In addition to its highly rigid, computer-designed structure, the TSX incorporates a vast arsenal of the latest safety technologies including standard side curtain airbags to help protect vehicle occupants from head and neck injuries in the event of a sufficient side impact. To ensure that the airbag covers the front and rear side windows instantaneously, compressed helium inflators deploy the curtain in a mere 0.015 seconds.

The TSX is also equipped with dual-stage, dual-threshold driver's and front passenger's airbags, and side airbags for the driver and front passenger. The passenger's side airbag uses seven sensors in the seatback and side bolster to determine the height and position of the occupant. If the sensors detect that a child or small-statured adult is leaning into the deployment path of the side airbag, the bag will not deploy.

Like all Acura models, the TSX is covered by a comprehensive 4-year/50,000 mile bumper-to-bumper limited warranty. Additional ownership benefits include Acura Total Luxury Care (TLC), which provides free 24-hour roadside assistance, concierge service, and trip routing.

escamar

i want to stick with the factory look...

dom

So I guess that means that PWP with Ebony is still not available in the US?