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Old 08-06-2014, 07:07 PM
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man your fuel trims must have been way out of whack. to not even break 200 with all those bolt ons yikes. glad to see its a much happier sleeper now.
Old 08-06-2014, 08:02 PM
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man your fuel trims must have been way out of whack. to not even break 200 with all those bolt ons yikes. glad to see its a much happier sleeper now.
AF line looks fine wot on the red line.

Humble performance is good shop. With all the K series with aftermarket cams they've dealt with, they should have been able to fix the knock issue. I'd guess its in the software on hondatas part. Otherwise it would not have been a problem for them. No need to take it to a "e-tuner". See what hondata says and try again. What valve lash did you use on intake and exhaust?
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...I guess we were bound to run into gremlins at some point... still good results so far and room for more!
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I ment when the 1st pass was made for a base line his fuel trims were all out of whack as he didn't even break 200 after he was all done tuning 261. And good job humble performance cause his setup is one of a kind huge bitch to tune obviously. And the fact that Hondata is going to be local is HUGE.
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You guys hang on, I think the RDX just went viral!!! Hondata employees are going to be at Humble and the owner asked if I want to come and show them my setup. This could mean big things for our flashpro :wishing:
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Old 08-06-2014, 09:41 PM
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Oh, and by the way. Haha, this thing pulls like my old Evo 9. Damn....
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NOw, what were the current RDX community dyno numbers?

Hub dyno:?

Dynojet:?
Old 08-06-2014, 10:12 PM
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My god that torque curve is the weirdest thing I've ever seen. There is a serious fight going on in that ECU. Good luck getting it all sorted out, there is definitely some power in there waiting to come out. It does look like you're running out of turbo at the top end though...not sure you'll get much past 300 without some kind of upgrade there. Regardless, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to pump up the mid range to at least 300 torque though unless you're trying to protect the drive train. Ultimate passing power!
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Oh yeah, just bought a used OEM Turbo and sending it to Evergreen turbo to get upgraded. They say they have seen 40+ gains with their upgrades.
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Yeah, Alex said I should be making a good 300+. But, it's coming; I'm not done yet!!!!
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Awesome Tuner!

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so many questions...
1. What were your air temps during a Pull?
2. Do you have any video?
3. Do you think that the RDX will Break 300 without a turbo upgrade?
4. When are you going to the track? gota get that 14sec 1/4
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Originally Posted by TheWrench116
so many questions...
1. What were your air temps during a Pull?
2. Do you have any video?
3. Do you think that the RDX will Break 300 without a turbo upgrade?
4. When are you going to the track? gota get that 14sec 1/4
Not sure what the air temps were

I will be working on uploading the video tonight

I'm sure it can break 300's without the upgrade, we just need Hondata to make us a more users friendly tuner like K-pro. But, that will come soon I'm sure. After they see what's going on.

I think the earliest I can get in at the track will be the 29th, taking off work that day.
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cant wait to see!!!!! the results.
or as Paul Harvey used to say the rest of the story!!!!
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Oh yeah, just bought a used OEM Turbo and sending it to Evergreen turbo to get upgraded. They say they have seen 40+ gains with their upgrades.
Before you send out the OEM turbo for wheel upgrade (I'm assuming they are upgrading the size of the compressor wheel, correct?), you should ask Evergreen if they have any experience with the new(ish) Garrett GTX comp wheels. The GTX wheel has a different blade shape which allows for a wider compressor map (i.e. more ultimate turbo flow/horsepower capability). In other words, for the same wheel diameter, the GTX comp wheel will flow more air. Wonder if the GTX wheel will fit the space claim as your planned upgrade.

Just another suggestion as a potential HP gain before they do the work.

One more suggestion since you have tuning capabilities....E85 tune!

Like others, staying tuned as your build progresses. Excellent work so far!
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Before you send out the OEM turbo for wheel upgrade (I'm assuming they are upgrading the size of the compressor wheel, correct?), you should ask Evergreen if they have any experience with the new(ish) Garrett GTX comp wheels. The GTX wheel has a different blade shape which allows for a wider compressor map (i.e. more ultimate turbo flow/horsepower capability). In other words, for the same wheel diameter, the GTX comp wheel will flow more air. Wonder if the GTX wheel will fit the space claim as your planned upgrade.

Just another suggestion as a potential HP gain before they do the work.

One more suggestion since you have tuning capabilities....E85 tune!

Like others, staying tuned as your build progresses. Excellent work so far!
Sure thing, I will ask them tomorrow about the GTX wheel when the turbo gets shipped to them. The service they currently offer for our turbo is (TD04 upgrades clipped turbine wheel for more flow/with billet compressor wheel upgrade/porting on the housings to smooth the flanges.)
I asked my mechanic about the e85 and he suggested just running the water/meth now, then adjust it when the upgraded turbo comes in.
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Old 08-08-2014, 06:55 AM
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lookin good KenB!
hopefully you get the KS issue figured out, i would love to see it make around 300hp with the stock turbo.
numbers are one thing but are you happy with how strong it feels?
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Old 08-08-2014, 07:15 AM
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Thanks! I'm beside myself!! It pulls like an EVO or STI, it's crazy!! Can't wait to go back for the final tune, I'm sure we'll be looking at over 300.
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I'm pretty sure I am getting better gas mileage. It doesn't boost as much while driving or climbing hills. This is a slight climb at 80mph. The boost never goes above the first level of the boost (as you can see the three levels here). But, pulls like hell when it goes over it!!! Love this smooth tune!!

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It's off to be rebuild and upgraded!!

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what was the best way to remove the turbo. from the top or the bottom.
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the best way to remove the turbo for rebuild is to get a spare off ebay... then swap them when the FRESH one comes back.
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/\ lol

I was looking at em yesterday on eBay....thinking of throwing out some best offers
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Originally Posted by bshotts
Before you send out the OEM turbo for wheel upgrade (I'm assuming they are upgrading the size of the compressor wheel, correct?), you should ask Evergreen if they have any experience with the new(ish) Garrett GTX comp wheels. The GTX wheel has a different blade shape which allows for a wider compressor map (i.e. more ultimate turbo flow/horsepower capability). In other words, for the same wheel diameter, the GTX comp wheel will flow more air. Wonder if the GTX wheel will fit the space claim as your planned upgrade.

Just another suggestion as a potential HP gain before they do the work.

One more suggestion since you have tuning capabilities....E85 tune!

Like others, staying tuned as your build progresses. Excellent work so far!

Evergreen will be using a Billet Mitsu Comp Wheel.
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/\ lol

I was looking at em yesterday on eBay....thinking of throwing out some best offers
Yep, that is were I got mine!
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car-part(.)com has em as cheap as 650$
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Got mine for 410.00
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He told me to come back in two weeks, because Hondata will be here.

will the turbo be in time?

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Got mine for 410.00
was that a best offer or what? I haven't found them under 575 for weeks now...
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No, I just messaged the guy. He wanted 575, I message what is the best price through paypal and he said 450, and I paid 410 shipped.
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No wait, he wanted 550 for it. This one
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Originally Posted by BigHatch
will the turbo be in time?

It doesn't look like it, my tracking number says they will receive it Wednesday and then inspect it then rebuild & upgrade however long that takes...
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there was a pretty rough looking one on there for 410+ship buy it now

nevermind, one of ya'll put in a best offer it looks like lol

soooooo ken, you'll have an extra turbo here pretty soon

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cant wait to see what this does to the power curve!!!! that and dougs hondata wizardry!!!
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The install was easy and straight forward. All you do is removed the right rear seat and pill the carpet back.











crawling through this again and I see Jeremy Clarkson's favorite tool BFH 1st and 3rd pic
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:21 PM
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every man with tools needs a BFH.. its a given
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so any news on the turbo and will you be posting more video and or pics?


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