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Old 09-24-2018, 08:21 PM
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Why not something better than the 1050TI?
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
Damn a 1TB 970 Pro as your data drive? Must be nice...
What is really crazy is that this M.2 is half the price of 64GB of RAM...

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Why not something better than the 1050TI?
In truth, the machine will probably only ever be accessed via RDP, but the video card is there so the processor is not getting taxed for a few of the programs I need that have complex UIs, etc...
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Yeah I was thinking "fuggit" and getting 64gbs of RAM, then I looked at the price. Hory shet, I think 32 will be more than enough.
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Yeah I was thinking "fuggit" and getting 64gbs of RAM, then I looked at the price. Hory shet, I think 32 will be more than enough.

Right? I paid under $250 for 64GB of DDR4 RAM in 2016...

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Old 10-14-2018, 07:12 PM
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my graphics card crapped out and wouldn't game anymore. paid for a cross ship rma and got curious to see if I could SLI them. of course it didnt work
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Holding off briefly on the build until the Intel Core i7-9700K Coffee Lake 8-Core 3.6 GHz is released...
Old 10-17-2018, 08:21 PM
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Do you need a high end graphics card to game on a 144hz 1080p monitor or is a NVIDIA 1060 fine?
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A 1060 is more than fine for that 144hz 1080p
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OK, updating the parts list for the i7 build... Just need to wait for anyone to get the processor in stock.

CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor ($419.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z390 Taichi Ultimate ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($288.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($844.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($87.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 1.0TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($394.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($149.00 @ B&H)
Case: Lian-Li - PC-7HB ATX Mid Tower Case ($110.14 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA 1000 P2 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Amazon)

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I'm thinking of building something similar but 32GB of RAM has been more than enough for my needs the past few years.
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I agree, for normal home/office use 16 GB is probably enough, but I regularly exceed 30-40 GB of RAM usage on these work machines when they are chugging along, so 64 GB gives me some headroom.
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Not going to miss the hyper-threading?
Old 10-25-2018, 10:29 AM
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Not going to miss the hyper-threading?
honestly, with 8 physical cores, what am I really missing? HT was (correct me if I am wrong) a way to create virtual cores when core counts were low.
Old 10-25-2018, 04:54 PM
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HT will give you 16 threads that show up as 16 cpus in task manager. In your screen shot from post #813 you have 12 cpus showing there so I assume you have a 6 core cpu with HT. The i7-9700K will only show 8.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-threading

It looks like whatever it is that you do likes hyperthreading? You might want to goto one of the benchmarking sites to see how the i7-9700K compares to whatever CPU you currently run.
On your current system disable the hyperthreading and see how it performs compared to hyperthreading enabled.

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Old 10-25-2018, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by doopstr
HT will give you 16 threads that show up as 16 cpus in task manager. In your screen shot from post #813 you have 12 cpus showing there so I assume you have a 6 core cpu with HT. The i7-9700K will only show 8.
It looks like whatever it is that you do likes hyperthreading?

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Originally Posted by doopstr
HT will give you 16 threads that show up as 16 cpus in task manager. In your screen shot from post #813 you have 12 cpus showing there so I assume you have a 6 core cpu with HT. The i7-9700K will only show 8.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-threading

It looks like whatever it is that you do likes hyperthreading? You might want to goto one of the benchmarking sites to see how the i7-9700K compares to whatever CPU you currently run.
On your current system disable the hyperthreading and see how it performs compared to hyperthreading enabled.
It;s a very valid point... The 8700K gives me four extra threads, but two less physical cores than the 9700K.

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Old 10-26-2018, 07:53 PM
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Stogie, have you looked in to the Ryzen CPUs, don't they have 8c/16T CPUs for less than that i7, you might get better performance for less
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If applications you mainly use are multi-threaded, Ryzen 7 2700x will have slight edge over i7 9700k. But if applications are mainly single threaded, 9700k will have the slight edge.

Intel Core i7-9700K vs AMD Ryzen 7 2700X

Or for a tiny bit more $, get Ryzen Threadripper 1920x (12 cores, 24 threads) which has even better multi-threaded performance.

Intel Core i7-9700K vs AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920X
Old 11-18-2018, 05:14 PM
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Starting to part out a new build. The last time I built a PC was 20 years ago.

Got a great deal on some parts at Microcenter.
Ryzen 7 1700X (8core/16thread) $140
500GB Samsung 860Evo $70
Aorus Gaming 5 Wifi X470 MOBO $129

Honestly, a 6core 2600 would have fit the bill but I guess they are clearing inventory on Gen1 Ryzen and $140 is an amazing price.
I went with the Aorus Gaming 5 because it was the cheapest MOBO I could find with 2x2 wifi.

Will be looking for RAM, GPU, case, monitor deals coming into Black Friday.

Can anyone recommend a 27" gaming monitor that doesn't break the bank? Not sure if I want 1080P or 1440P. Not sure what graphics card to get if 1440P? I will probably go with AMD GPU/Freesync monitor because cheaper.

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ViewSonic XG2702 27 Inch 1080p 1ms 144 Hz Gaming Monitor with FreeSync Eye Care Advanced Ergonomics ColorX Mode HDMI and DP for eSport
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https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-gaming-monitors/

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Old 11-19-2018, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by doopstr
Starting to part out a new build. The last time I built a PC was 20 years ago.

Got a great deal on some parts at Microcenter.
Ryzen 7 1700X (8core/16thread) $140
500GB Samsung 860Evo $70
Aorus Gaming 5 Wifi X470 MOBO $129

Honestly, a 6core 2600 would have fit the bill but I guess they are clearing inventory on Gen1 Ryzen and $140 is an amazing price.
I went with the Aorus Gaming 5 because it was the cheapest MOBO I could find with 2x2 wifi.

Will be looking for RAM, GPU, case, monitor deals coming into Black Friday.
Don't you also need a CPU cooler and PSU?

Good PSU deals...

EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G2 650W
$79.99 - $10 rebate = $69.99
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...650g_gold.html

EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2 750W
$89.99 - $20 rebate = $69.99
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16817438017
Old 11-19-2018, 12:45 PM
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If you're going air cooled for your CPU cooler, I hear Noctua is good
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For CPU cooler I got a Wraith Spire, will see how it goes. Yeah, going to need a PSU.
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Going with a Sapphire Radeon NITRO+ RX580 for GPU. $210 from Newegg.

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Didn't plan on building an RGB system but looks to be turning out that way. Just ordered 16GB CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro.
All that's left now is case/psu/monitor/keyboard/mouse. I think I will go with a Logitech RGB keyboard/mouse. I have that on my other PC and like it.
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If you have an AmEx card, get the Amazon Business AmEx credit card and get a $100 Amazon ($125 if Prime member) gift card. You should get approved immediately. No hard pull if you already have AmEx card. No need to unfreeze credit profile. Use Amazon gift card to get other parts.

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Went with an NZXT H500 case (they have 10% off + free ship on nzxt.com today with blackfriday code), and a corsair CX550M from Newegg, $30 after rebate.

I think I'm going with the monitor Stunna recommended. Still deciding on if I want 24" or 27".

BTW, I love that Walgreens can be used as a FedEx ship location. No worries about someone jacking something off of my porch.

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Old 12-07-2018, 06:03 PM
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Finally got all the parts, here it is!
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That's a nice looking rig
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I miss custom building PCs
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Is it worth it to buy a used GPU?

i saw some used RX 580 8gb for around $150.

im gonna assume that people are selling off their mining parts so they’ve probably been heavily used.
But does it matter for a casual gamer and for video editing?


edit: nvm I’ll spend the extra and go new https://www.tomshardware.com/news/us...ing,36579.html

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I miss custom building PCs
I haven't built a rig from scratch in 20 years. When this one powered on for the first time I felt some old school joy, incredible.

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edit: nvm I’ll spend the extra and go new https://www.tomshardware.com/news/us...ing,36579.html
Keep an eye on slickdeals, RX580s are there pretty frequent. I saw an 8GB one for $185 a week or so ago. I really like the Sapphire, the fans are quiet. The EVGA 1060SC single fan I put in my Dell Precision sounds like it wants to take off.

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Old 12-08-2018, 03:32 PM
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Nice looking build Doopster!

Did you measure the air pressure in the case?
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Here's an RX580 8GB for $157 after rebate and it comes with 2 free games.
https://slickdeals.net/f/12430522-xf...?src=frontpage
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Thanks.

The Master pass coupon expired.

So $201 - $20 rebate - $25coupon code.

not sure how master pass works but I don’t have a master card
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Well, my late October planned build had to be put off, so I am revisiting it now...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($525.89 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z390 Taichi Ultimate ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($253.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($430.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($347.92 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1050 2 GB OC Video Card ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA 1000 P2 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.99 @ B&H)
Total: $2026.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Sweet! That'll be quite nice.

I grabbed a used desktop recently on Offerup!

i7-8700K
16 Gigs of DDR (I've upgraded it to 32)
250 GB 970 EVO
3 TB WD 7200 rpm
Nvidia Ti 1070 Ti with 8GB of video RAM

Not bad for under $700. Came with a nice case too!
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^Nice pickup!

Hackintosh 2.0?
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