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OK, so continuing the AV discussion...
I had an interesting set of circumstances and thought I would share the results.
I was given a Mac OSX OS drive in an OWC (USB3) enclosure and asked to locate malware (I knew there was 'some' in advance).
Given the ready availability of Windows based scanners, I installed the HFS+ drivers for bootcamp on a W7 machine (Thinkpad, 7x64, i7, 8gb) and was able to access the drive without issue.
I then ran multiple scanners against the entire 125GB logical volume with Very varied results. Since some of the scans completed as expected, I am confident that the HFS+ drivers were not the source of the discrepancies.
AVAST - Scan took 40-60min, malware located.
BitDefender - Scan took 2+ hours, malware located
AVG - Scan took 43 seconds, NO malware located
Panda - Scan took 5 seconds, NO malware located
Then attached the drive to a MBP and re-ran the Avast. Scan took 60 minutes, malware located.
(None of the scanners were allowed to remove any found malware).
Just thought it was interesting in the event anyone is connecting HFS+ volumes to a windows system and expecting AV tools to work.
TLDR: Bottom line: Some do and some don't...
I had an interesting set of circumstances and thought I would share the results.
I was given a Mac OSX OS drive in an OWC (USB3) enclosure and asked to locate malware (I knew there was 'some' in advance).
Given the ready availability of Windows based scanners, I installed the HFS+ drivers for bootcamp on a W7 machine (Thinkpad, 7x64, i7, 8gb) and was able to access the drive without issue.
I then ran multiple scanners against the entire 125GB logical volume with Very varied results. Since some of the scans completed as expected, I am confident that the HFS+ drivers were not the source of the discrepancies.
AVAST - Scan took 40-60min, malware located.
BitDefender - Scan took 2+ hours, malware located
AVG - Scan took 43 seconds, NO malware located
Panda - Scan took 5 seconds, NO malware located
Then attached the drive to a MBP and re-ran the Avast. Scan took 60 minutes, malware located.
(None of the scanners were allowed to remove any found malware).
Just thought it was interesting in the event anyone is connecting HFS+ volumes to a windows system and expecting AV tools to work.
TLDR: Bottom line: Some do and some don't...
they finally added aero snap from windows 7!
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Holy fvck.. Apple finally listened. TRIM can now be turned on for 3rd party SSDs with OSX 10.10.4
Too bad this doesn't apply for me since my boot drive SSD is connected via USB3.0.
still just as fast as when I installed it about 6 months ago.
Earlier today Apple released OS X 10.10.4, an under-the-hood update to OS X that introduced several bug fixes and improvements. One improvement, according to Ars Technica, is support for TRIM for third-party SSD hard drives. We previously covered TRIM likely coming natively to the next version of OS X El Capitan but it appears support has already arrived.
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With today's OS X 10.10.4 update, however, Apple has added a command line utility that can be used to enable TRIM on third-party SSDs without having to download and install anything. Called trimforce, the utility can be executed from the OS X terminal, and it requires a reboot to start working.
TRIM is a system-level command that allows the operating system and the drive to communicate about which areas of the drive are considered unused and thus ready to be erased and rewritten to. In the absence of TRIM, users can see significantly slower drive writes as the drive begins to fill up. Most modern operating systems support TRIM but for Apple's OS X, it has only included support for its OEM SSDs. This means that Mac users looking to install an after-market SSD in a machine originally intended for spinning disc hard drives would run into trouble without the help of other third-party tools.
To enable TRIM, a user just has to type "sudo trimforce enable" into the Terminal window. Ars Technica points out that running TRIM prompts a "scary" message from the system, but notes it's largely because each SSD implements TRIM in a different way, with older disks sometimes acting in a way OS X would not expect.
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With today's OS X 10.10.4 update, however, Apple has added a command line utility that can be used to enable TRIM on third-party SSDs without having to download and install anything. Called trimforce, the utility can be executed from the OS X terminal, and it requires a reboot to start working.
TRIM is a system-level command that allows the operating system and the drive to communicate about which areas of the drive are considered unused and thus ready to be erased and rewritten to. In the absence of TRIM, users can see significantly slower drive writes as the drive begins to fill up. Most modern operating systems support TRIM but for Apple's OS X, it has only included support for its OEM SSDs. This means that Mac users looking to install an after-market SSD in a machine originally intended for spinning disc hard drives would run into trouble without the help of other third-party tools.
To enable TRIM, a user just has to type "sudo trimforce enable" into the Terminal window. Ars Technica points out that running TRIM prompts a "scary" message from the system, but notes it's largely because each SSD implements TRIM in a different way, with older disks sometimes acting in a way OS X would not expect.
Too bad this doesn't apply for me since my boot drive SSD is connected via USB3.0.
still just as fast as when I installed it about 6 months ago.
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Office beta expired.
I paid the $99 a few weeks back. Been testing El C, IOS 9 and Watch 2 for a while.
El Capitian is pretty good. Granted there is not much change, so not a lot of things to break. I can't think of a feature that really stands out. Just performance and security. I put it on my 13 MBPr and left it on it, it actually runs very well on it. I have two partitions on my 12 inch Macbook and it seems buggier, so Im using Yosemite on it and testing it on the other partition.
IOS 9 was on by my Iphone 6 plus and Ipad Mini 3. The OS runs pretty good, I like some of the features and UI. A lot of apps still dont work with it, so that was getting to me. I put it on my phone so I could get to Watch OS 2.0.
Watch 2.0 - Love the new photo watch faces. Hate the bugs and battery life. Will be awesome when ready.
So there is no way to downgrade the watch back to 1.01. Apple is just crazy awesome and for free sent me a brand new watch with 1.01 and I shipped mine back to them. So now my phone is back to 8.4, Watch is 1.01 Ipad mini is 9, MBPr is 10.11, MBr is dual boot 10.10 and 10.11
I paid the $99 a few weeks back. Been testing El C, IOS 9 and Watch 2 for a while.
El Capitian is pretty good. Granted there is not much change, so not a lot of things to break. I can't think of a feature that really stands out. Just performance and security. I put it on my 13 MBPr and left it on it, it actually runs very well on it. I have two partitions on my 12 inch Macbook and it seems buggier, so Im using Yosemite on it and testing it on the other partition.
IOS 9 was on by my Iphone 6 plus and Ipad Mini 3. The OS runs pretty good, I like some of the features and UI. A lot of apps still dont work with it, so that was getting to me. I put it on my phone so I could get to Watch OS 2.0.
Watch 2.0 - Love the new photo watch faces. Hate the bugs and battery life. Will be awesome when ready.
So there is no way to downgrade the watch back to 1.01. Apple is just crazy awesome and for free sent me a brand new watch with 1.01 and I shipped mine back to them. So now my phone is back to 8.4, Watch is 1.01 Ipad mini is 9, MBPr is 10.11, MBr is dual boot 10.10 and 10.11
Needs more Lemon Pledge
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I just saw that the standalone will not be released until September.
Oh well, Office for MAC is an "80%" of the Office for windows anyway... OneNote on the mac drives me nuts, while I love it on windows.
Oh well, Office for MAC is an "80%" of the Office for windows anyway... OneNote on the mac drives me nuts, while I love it on windows.
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Office beta expired.
I paid the $99 a few weeks back. Been testing El C, IOS 9 and Watch 2 for a while.
El Capitian is pretty good. Granted there is not much change, so not a lot of things to break. I can't think of a feature that really stands out. Just performance and security. I put it on my 13 MBPr and left it on it, it actually runs very well on it. I have two partitions on my 12 inch Macbook and it seems buggier, so Im using Yosemite on it and testing it on the other partition.
IOS 9 was on by my Iphone 6 plus and Ipad Mini 3. The OS runs pretty good, I like some of the features and UI. A lot of apps still dont work with it, so that was getting to me. I put it on my phone so I could get to Watch OS 2.0.
Watch 2.0 - Love the new photo watch faces. Hate the bugs and battery life. Will be awesome when ready.
So there is no way to downgrade the watch back to 1.01. Apple is just crazy awesome and for free sent me a brand new watch with 1.01 and I shipped mine back to them. So now my phone is back to 8.4, Watch is 1.01 Ipad mini is 9, MBPr is 10.11, MBr is dual boot 10.10 and 10.11
I paid the $99 a few weeks back. Been testing El C, IOS 9 and Watch 2 for a while.
El Capitian is pretty good. Granted there is not much change, so not a lot of things to break. I can't think of a feature that really stands out. Just performance and security. I put it on my 13 MBPr and left it on it, it actually runs very well on it. I have two partitions on my 12 inch Macbook and it seems buggier, so Im using Yosemite on it and testing it on the other partition.
IOS 9 was on by my Iphone 6 plus and Ipad Mini 3. The OS runs pretty good, I like some of the features and UI. A lot of apps still dont work with it, so that was getting to me. I put it on my phone so I could get to Watch OS 2.0.
Watch 2.0 - Love the new photo watch faces. Hate the bugs and battery life. Will be awesome when ready.
So there is no way to downgrade the watch back to 1.01. Apple is just crazy awesome and for free sent me a brand new watch with 1.01 and I shipped mine back to them. So now my phone is back to 8.4, Watch is 1.01 Ipad mini is 9, MBPr is 10.11, MBr is dual boot 10.10 and 10.11
I'm hoping the next iteration of OS X addresses some of OS X's shortcomings relative to Windows 10.
