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Call me naive, and I'm not picking on you CGE, what's the big deal with more pure Android? If TouchWiz or Sense has minimal impact on my phone performance wise, then other than bloatware which can be partially uninstalled, what's the big deal?
Because when you have skins, the performance of certain apps, widgets or other features change. One that I'm personally familiar with is Dashclock. Because TW and Sense have their own lockscreen protocols, Dashclock worked differently. It didn't work at all as intended on Sense, and I loved the hell out of that skin.

The goal would be to move to a more standard experience across all devices. Yes, I know the theme to this point has been customization, but that can be done without the manufacturers sticking their nose into it. I want the power button, the drop-down menu, the lockscreen...to be the same no matter which device I pick up. TW is the most alien Android experience out there, and it isn't a good thing.
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
His contacts as long as they are stored on his gmail account should transfer just fine as should his installed apps.

His SMS he will need to find an app that allows you to backup and then restore your SMS. Make a backup on his Note2 and then install the app on his Nexus6 and then do a restore. There are a bunch of free apps in the playstore to do this.
Apparently his contacts aren't stored on his google account. He said only his contacts from facebook where in his new phone. He had a Galaxy S2 not the Note 2, does that matter?

If his contacts aren't saved in his google account is there a way to move them there on the phone?
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
Apparently his contacts aren't stored on his google account. He said only his contacts from facebook where in his new phone. He had a Galaxy S2 not the Note 2, does that matter?

If his contacts aren't saved in his google account is there a way to move them there on the phone?
It might be a process but if he plans to stick with Android phones, then saving your contacts to Google Contacts is the best way to never lose them.

Your friend can export his contacts from his S2. The exported file will most likely be saved on the phone. I'd then email that file to my Google email. The file will probably be a vcf. Then have him go to his Google account on his computer and download that vcf file that he just emailed to himself. Then go to Contact and import that vcf file. Then he can log onto his Google Account on his Nexus 6 and the contact list will be synced.
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Does TW actually make things better? Are the guys working on TW better at design than Matias Duarte? Or are they just putting their spin on it solely to differentiate themselves from other Android brands?

Look at this guy

rQpFDin.jpg

Samsung ain't got shi(r)t on Duarte!

Duarte has his own subreddit
http://www.reddit.com/r/duarteshirts/

Does TouchWiz?

Edit: it does
http://www.reddit.com/r/touchwiz

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Originally Posted by CocheseUGA
Because when you have skins, the performance of certain apps, widgets or other features change. One that I'm personally familiar with is Dashclock. Because TW and Sense have their own lockscreen protocols, Dashclock worked differently. It didn't work at all as intended on Sense, and I loved the hell out of that skin.

The goal would be to move to a more standard experience across all devices. Yes, I know the theme to this point has been customization, but that can be done without the manufacturers sticking their nose into it. I want the power button, the drop-down menu, the lockscreen...to be the same no matter which device I pick up. TW is the most alien Android experience out there, and it isn't a good thing.
Ok I guess for apps in general like Frank had to give me the Redbox app apk even though the Note 2 has it but the Play Store didn't offer the Note 4.

Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
Does TW actually make things better? Are the guys working on TW better at design than Matias Duarte? Or are they just putting their spin on it solely to differentiate themselves from other Android brands?

Look at this guy



Samsung ain't got shi(r)t on Duarte!

Duarte has his own subreddit
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Does TouchWiz?

Edit: it does
http://www.reddit.com/r/touchwiz
I don't get it

And again I'm not arguing TW>Pure etc. I ask because I don't know and I hope that pure would take the good things from TW, Sense, etc. These are things I think are not on pure that TW has. Does pure have a camera button on the lock screen? Does it make cool effects when you unlock the screen like the Note 4 (Note 4 owners know what I mean)? panoramic selfie camera (fun to use with kids and gf)? When someone calls and your phone is ringing on your screen it will show the last time you spoke and duration?
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Originally Posted by TeknoKing
Thanks. I want to use a custom rom as my last resort. I guess I expect for brand new phone to work very well right out of the box

I'll disable S voice and stuff and I shall see if it makes a difference, if it does not, I'll check out your custom rom.
It's worth checking that thread anyway - in the second post he has stuff that he recommends shutting off to improve performance.

As with all OSes, touchwiz/sense/ROMS/etc some people like the changes, some don't. I've rooted and used xposed/Wanam to modify some stuff in the OS that I like - like the power button menu list, and network speed in the status bar.
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Hey Doc!
still in the 713?
Hey man, whatz up?

I am still here... LOL

Originally Posted by TSXy Luster
The iPhone community on AZ is terrible, unhelpful, and filled with assholes. Thought about getting an iPhone 6 as my new phone, but now I'll just wait for the 6s or whatever they call it next year and probably never post in that thread on AZ.
LMSAO... That's part of the reason why I stuck with AD and started this thread...

Oh, yeah and BTW:
We have Sprint
My girl has a Note3: voice and data
I have a N5: voice but NO data or vice versa...
we bought them on the same day... occ I'm like... let me send you this pic real qwik... ahhhhhh ...
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So after using the OnePlus One for just a day, I can no longer go back to screens smaller than 5 inches. Holding my N4 again felt tiny. I love the larger screen. Browsing is ridiculously more easier and enjoyable for me.
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Stunna, is that your brother? He looks like you... :creepy:
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Matias has really contributed to a lot of things I love, especially webOS (RIP) and fortunately a lot of the ideas carried over to Android.
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Old 12-03-2014, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Doom878
Call me naive, and I'm not picking on you CGE, what's the big deal with more pure Android? If TouchWiz or Sense has minimal impact on my phone performance wise, then other than bloatware which can be partially uninstalled, what's the big deal?
No offense taken....Others have alluded to it, and I agree that I don't like bloatware. So I'd rather get the pure android experience.

I'll add that I also like to get the latest and greatest iteration of the OS, to play with the new features. Samsung doesn't update their devices often, so their phones can feel a little left out when it comes to new innovations (granted they have some nice things themselves). Even Nexus 4 gets lollipop.

It really all comes down to preference as well.
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So after using the OnePlus One for just a day, I can no longer go back to screens smaller than 5 inches. Holding my N4 again felt tiny. I love the larger screen. Browsing is ridiculously more easier and enjoyable for me.
When is that thing going to get lollipop? It is an interesting phone, for sure.
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^that's what I can't stand the fact that TW adds little if anything to the OS, arguably does more harm than good and because of TW or other UI skins OEMs delay rollout of updates and cool new features so that their software that I don't want can run on it. Fuck that!
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This guy loves Touch Wiz though

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I wouldn't call myself a power user but the Note 4 is my first non-vanilla Android UI ever. I had an OG iPhone, then a 3GS. It quickly became apparent that it was beginning to look like the same old shit over and over, hence the jump.

UI-wise, my rooted GNex was really nice. I went to the 2013 Moto X which was very similar in shape, build, UI, etc. but only used a different launcher and keyboard. Then I wanted something different again.

I really like the design of the N4. I take a ton of photos and while the N6 camera is a huge improvement, the extra features of the N4/TW win out for me. I didn't touch the S Pen at first but now I use it all the time. Same with multi window.
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I spent some good time with an iPhone 6, 6+, and compared the Nexus 6 side-by-side Note 4 at a store. I wanted a "phablet". Lollipop is pretty to look at. I really like the animations. But I found myself putting down the N6 to play with the N4. To each his own. Google's apps have already taken on the 5.0 appearance anyway.

I originally swore off of Samsung phones (and Verizon) after the awful time I had with my GNex and seeing how poorly my friends' T-mobile GS3s held up. TW was slow as shit on their phones.

The N4 fixes two complaints I had with Samsung. All plastic construction and the lack of a Qualcomm chip. There was no lag with the N4's TW other than the "recents" button, but once I turned off S-voice it went away.

The only thing I really feel I'm missing out on is dual front facing speakers. For what they are, the One M8 and N6 sound so good.
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Finally decided on a design for the Moto X and placed my order this morning - white/ebony/silver trim 32gb pure edition. I should have it 12/16. I'm hoping it's sooner than that.

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So I have not rooted an Android device since I put Android on my Touchpad. I have not rooted any phones. My main question is if I root does that mean I will not get updates when they come out anymore? I want to get wifi tethering on my N6 but don't want to have to manually update all the time because of root.
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you're in IT. it means basically the same.
you will gain root access.
that is all.

when you start to modify or tinker with kernals and roms is when things get hairy.


so, by unlocking boot loader and rooting, you're just gaining access, no change to software.
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Nice choice. A bit plain though

I still really appreciate Motorola offering the ability to customize the phone. That way you can really have something unique.
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Originally Posted by justnspace
you're in IT. it means basically the same.
you will gain root access.
that is all.

when you start to modify or tinker with kernals and roms is when things get hairy.


so, by unlocking boot loader and rooting, you're just gaining access, no change to software.
Ok excellent. That is how I was thinking it was but wanted to check with people that have done it before.
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
So I have not rooted an Android device since I put Android on my Touchpad. I have not rooted any phones. My main question is if I root does that mean I will not get updates when they come out anymore? I want to get wifi tethering on my N6 but don't want to have to manually update all the time because of root.
You will still get OTA notifications if you're running a stock rom, but it may remove root if you take the update. It's the main reason I haven't accepted the 5.0 OTA on my N4.

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Nice choice. A bit plain though

I still really appreciate Motorola offering the ability to customize the phone. That way you can really have something unique.
It took me about a week to decide on a color. I really wanted a wood back, but the bamboo and teak were too light and looked funny with the black front. With the white front, it was too plain. I liked the contrast of the ebony wood and white face. I thought about getting the bronze trim, but the ring around the phone is silver and doesn't change, and the inconsistency would've bugged me.

I almost got leather for the added grip, but the wood really won me over. Now I just want the damn thing to get here
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You will still get OTA notifications if you're running a stock rom, but it may remove root if you take the update. It's the main reason I haven't accepted the 5.0 OTA on my N4.

I didnt research and went for the OTA.
broke my root access.

Old 12-04-2014, 03:09 PM
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I forgot who it was that recommended Textra. But I've been using it and it's a damn solid replacement for the stock SMS app. Much better MMS support as well.
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google hangout is pretty good too.
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google hangout is pretty good too.
It's solid as well. But I didn't like how it mixed my Gmail contacts with my "phone" contacts. It was at time confusing because I once accidently messaged my friend's Gmail account instead of his phone. He didn't receive my message until he realized I messaged him on Gmail.
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I probably recommended you Textra since I've raved about it for months. With the latest update they finally allowed future texting. I officially don't need the stock messaing app.
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Originally Posted by mdkxtreme
It's solid as well. But I didn't like how it mixed my Gmail contacts with my "phone" contacts. It was at time confusing because I once accidently messaged my friend's Gmail account instead of his phone. He didn't receive my message until he realized I messaged him on Gmail.
hahaha. yeah i had that problem everytime i reset my phone. once i put the settings for it i was good.
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I probably recommended you Textra since I've raved about it for months. With the latest update they finally allowed future texting. I officially don't need the stock messaing app.
I love Textra. It's pretty, and it's fast. Got it based off of recommendations in this thread as well.

What's future texting?
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Just a heads up for Chromecast users, you can now redeem the original X-Men movie for free. Just download the Chromecast app to your device, connect to your chromecast and then Check Offers. You can only redeem it once.
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Originally Posted by Costco
I love Textra. It's pretty, and it's fast. Got it based off of recommendations in this thread as well.

What's future texting?
Scheduling a future text. Like you want to text someone late but don't want to send till morning.

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Just a heads up for Chromecast users, you can now redeem the original X-Men movie for free. Just download the Chromecast app to your device, connect to your chromecast and then Check Offers. You can only redeem it once.
Thx. Also we get free Google All Access and Hulu Plus for 3 months but have to act soon.
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I forgot who it was that recommended Textra. But I've been using it and it's a damn solid replacement for the stock SMS app. Much better MMS support as well.
Much better than the stock.
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The free google play and Hulu plus is only for new Chromecast users or all? I have had mine since it came out.
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OK, textra users...

convince me!

What makes it so much better than stock for basic texting?

If I use it and decide to go back to stock, will I lose all the SMS it contains or can I run them side by side?
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Originally Posted by stogie1020
OK, textra users...

convince me!

What makes it so much better than stock for basic texting?

If I use it and decide to go back to stock, will I lose all the SMS it contains or can I run them side by side?
To be honest, just try it out. It won't hurt.

I like that it looks more elegant and intuitive. Basically it has the iPhone look and feel to it with a bunch of color customization you can do. I like the chat bubble layout instead of the horizontal bar layout of the stock SMS app. It's easier to distinguish your text from the other person. I also like how right after I reply a text from the lock screen, I'm taken back to the lockscreen and just put the phone down. This is useful for me when I'm at my desk and do quick replies and just put the phone down.

Also, I believe text messages are not app specific. Meaning the messages from Textra are seen on my stock SMS app. MMS doesn't seem to sync with the old SMS app though.

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The free google play and Hulu plus is only for new Chromecast users or all? I have had mine since it came out.
I believe all. Just check Chromecast offers while under the same Wifi as you're Chromecast. I tried through work and it was looking for my chromecast.

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OK, textra users...

convince me!

What makes it so much better than stock for basic texting?

If I use it and decide to go back to stock, will I lose all the SMS it contains or can I run them side by side?
All the SMS that you get in Textra save to stock Messages. When you delete them in Textra they also get deleted in stock. I think we've said here a million times while its better but the short answer: faster, quick reply so you don't have to leave the app, you can use iPhone emojis with anyone with the free plug-in, set contacts notifications including tone, blinking light color (if applicable to your phone), bubble colors.


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