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02-06-2006, 12:44 PM
#761
Originally Posted by Jonesi
no. It was from Ben.. They rolled right with Randle El then passed it back across to Ben then to Cedric Wilson..
The closest repeat to that play was against Cleveland..
The closest repeat to that play was against Cleveland..
that's right, forgot all about the pass back to Ben.Sorry Cazzy, my mistake
To my defense I was drunk when I watched both of those games 
02-06-2006, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by hornyleprechaun
o ok he is wrong then. either the ball or any bodypart has to cross inside/over the pylon but the ball still has to cross the infinite goal line... i'm trying to find a picture of vick doing it.. there is supposed to be a great shot of it
The goal line plane is unique under NFL rules. When a player breaks the plane of the goal line with the ball in his possession, it is a touchdown, even though the player's body may be in the field of play. This plane extends to infinity and if a player crosses the goal line with his body and the ball extended over the sideline, it is a touchdown because of the invisible plane. The sidelines and endlines do not have the same magic; however, if a player has the ball extended over the sideline or endline and his body is completely in the field of play or the end zone, the play is not ruled out of bounds in the field or the end zone.
02-06-2006, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by WdnUlik2no
the ball extended over the sideline, it is a touchdown because of the invisible plane.
02-06-2006, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hornyleprechaun
o ok he is wrong then. either the ball or any bodypart has to cross inside/over the pylon but the ball still has to cross the infinite goal line... i'm trying to find a picture of vick doing it.. there is supposed to be a great shot of it
I was saying that it should have been reviewed. My wasn't saying it was a touchdown my point is that the Pylon is IN BOUNDS.
02-06-2006, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 03typeS6spd
did that one steeler who had the return where he dove over the one guy and look like he got his back broken make it out ok?
they came back to the game and didn't even mention what looked like a nasty injury...
they came back to the game and didn't even mention what looked like a nasty injury...
02-06-2006, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by WdnUlik2no
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune....eref-headlines
The goal line plane is unique under NFL rules. When a player breaks the plane of the goal line with the ball in his possession, it is a touchdown, even though the player's body may be in the field of play. This plane extends to infinity and if a player crosses the goal line with his body and the ball extended over the sideline, it is a touchdown because of the invisible plane. The sidelines and endlines do not have the same magic; however, if a player has the ball extended over the sideline or endline and his body is completely in the field of play or the end zone, the play is not ruled out of bounds in the field or the end zone.
The goal line plane is unique under NFL rules. When a player breaks the plane of the goal line with the ball in his possession, it is a touchdown, even though the player's body may be in the field of play. This plane extends to infinity and if a player crosses the goal line with his body and the ball extended over the sideline, it is a touchdown because of the invisible plane. The sidelines and endlines do not have the same magic; however, if a player has the ball extended over the sideline or endline and his body is completely in the field of play or the end zone, the play is not ruled out of bounds in the field or the end zone.
That's what I said when I saw the replay, the ball just has to cross the plane, and he crossed the line in the air 
02-06-2006, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cazzy
Exclude everything else and read what you bolded and you will understand what I am getting at. When they reference side line, they are talking about the side line of the end zone.
02-06-2006, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 03typeS6spd
did that one steeler who had the return where he dove over the one guy and look like he got his back broken make it out ok?
they came back to the game and didn't even mention what looked like a nasty injury...
they came back to the game and didn't even mention what looked like a nasty injury...
02-06-2006, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by WdnUlik2no
Let's ask the NFL.
02-06-2006, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
That made the seahawks DB's look ridiculous....
Even on the interception (the one that broke the record for longest interception return), the seahawk DB was beat, it's just that Roethlisberger threw a bad pass right at him (lucky??)...
Oh, and to make the Seahawks look even worst... Roethlisberger set a superbowl record too... He has the worst QB rating for a QB on the winning team in superbowl history (9/21 - 2 picks)
1 play please. Seattle had 400 yards of offense on Blitzburgh. They made Pittsburgh look dumb until the refs took over.
02-06-2006, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
That's what I said when I saw the replay, the ball just has to cross the plane, and he crossed the line in the air Are you talking about Ben's touchdown ? Are you high he got stopped stone cold.
02-06-2006, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by cazzy
Your older than I am, so havn't you ever noticed how runners stretch the ball over the pylon when they dive out of bounds by the goal line. If all they had to do was jump far enough out in order to pass the goal line...don't you think they would?
and I am not that much older than you. I just turned 29 today.
02-06-2006, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by WdnUlik2no
You have a point there. I am going to send a question to the NFL and see if they respond. I am pretty sure the goalline extends to infinity, pass the pylons, but you did bring up a good point about them trying to get the ball inside the pylon.
and I am not that much older than you. I just turned 29 today.
and I am not that much older than you. I just turned 29 today.
02-06-2006, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by cazzy
lol...Happy Birthday by the way!
It seems like we are not the only ones having this discussion. There are tons of messages boards regarding the same issue. The NFL needs to release an official answer!
02-06-2006, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by endo022
that whole f*cking officiating crew should be dragged out and shot somewhere.....assh0les sold out the game
seattle should have won that game....we all know who the real champs are and it definitely isn't wearing black and gold
seattle should have won that game....we all know who the real champs are and it definitely isn't wearing black and gold
02-06-2006, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Scottman111
that's right, forgot all about the pass back to Ben.Sorry Cazzy, my mistake
To my defense I was drunk when I watched both of those games 
02-06-2006, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cazzy
Your older than I am, so havn't you ever noticed how runners stretch the ball over the pylon when they dive out of bounds by the goal line. If all they had to do was jump far enough out in order to pass the goal line...don't you think they would?
Ok, the more I think about it, what you are saying does make sense. Take Carl Lewis for example, in his prime he could jump close to 30 feet (close to 10 yards). So if Lewis was playing in the NFL, he could conceivably run the ball to the 9 or 8 yard line and then jump out of bounds at a 45 degree angle out of bounds. This would put him pass the plane of the goalline, but well out of bounds. This wouldn't make much sense to be ruled a TD, since many player would attempt to do the same thing as you suggested. I am still curious about the infinity rule, but you seem to be correct about a diving player out of bounds should not be given the TD. Your right, I'm wrong.
02-06-2006, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by WdnUlik2no
Ok, the more I think about it, what you are saying does make sense. Take Carl Lewis for example, in his prime he could jump close to 30 feet (close to 10 yards). So if Lewis was playing in the NFL, he could conceivably run the ball to the 9 or 8 yard line and then jump out of bounds at a 45 degree angle out of bounds. This would put him pass the plane of the goalline, but well out of bounds. This wouldn't make much sense to be ruled a TD, since many player would attempt to do the same thing as you suggested. I am still curious about the infinity rule, but you seem to be correct about a diving player out of bounds should not be given the TD. Your right, I'm wrong.
Carl Lewis? lolAgain, I think you are confusing it with the line of scrimmage which does extend forever and comes into play when the QB throws the ball out of bounds. Actually, Madden talked about that this season.
02-06-2006, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by endo022
seattle should have won that game....we all know who the real champs are and it definitely isn't wearing black and gold
yeah, seattle should have won. they're the real champs. if they played this game 10 times, seattle woulda won 9 of them. You guys are right, why play the games?
the "real champs" and their coach didn't royally fuck up on clock management at the end of BOTH halves, didn't drop passes, didn't miss 2 important FGs, didn't get burned on the game deciding 'trick' play, DIDN'T GIVE UP A FREAKING 75 YARD TOUCHDOWN RUN. You're right, seattle deserved to win this game. It's all the refs fault.
02-06-2006, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by endo022
that whole f*cking officiating crew should be dragged out and shot somewhere.....assh0les sold out the game
seattle should have won that game....we all know who the real champs are and it definitely isn't wearing black and gold
seattle should have won that game....we all know who the real champs are and it definitely isn't wearing black and gold
Neither team played spectacularly, but Seattle did suck worse.
02-06-2006, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GOOSE
yeah, seattle should have won. they're the real champs. if they played this game 10 times, seattle woulda won 9 of them. You guys are right, why play the games?
the "real champs" and their coach didn't royally fuck up on clock management at the end of BOTH halves, didn't drop passes, didn't miss 2 important FGs, didn't get burned on the game deciding 'trick' play, DIDN'T GIVE UP A FREAKING 75 YARD TOUCHDOWN RUN. You're right, seattle deserved to win this game. It's all the refs fault.
the "real champs" and their coach didn't royally fuck up on clock management at the end of BOTH halves, didn't drop passes, didn't miss 2 important FGs, didn't get burned on the game deciding 'trick' play, DIDN'T GIVE UP A FREAKING 75 YARD TOUCHDOWN RUN. You're right, seattle deserved to win this game. It's all the refs fault.
And I had to leave right after the game.... did Holmgren ever come out and shake Cowher's hand after the game? It looked like cowher was waiting for him and he never came.
02-06-2006, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by cazzy
Carl Lewis? lolAgain, I think you are confusing it with the line of scrimmage which does extend forever and comes into play when the QB throws the ball out of bounds. Actually, Madden talked about that this season.
There was a Dolphins/Jets game this season. And this is probably where I remember Madden and Michaels dicussing it.
The infinty rule only applies if the player is inbounds. I found this website that had the official rule and TD definition.
Check this mboard out.
Here
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02-06-2006, 02:13 PM
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02-06-2006, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ccannizz11
And I had to leave right after the game.... did Holmgren ever come out and shake Cowher's hand after the game? It looked like cowher was waiting for him and he never came.
02-06-2006, 02:20 PM
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too bad I still lost some other bets
02-06-2006, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by cazzy
They didn't show, but Cowher was making an effort to find him. He kept saying, where's Mike. If Holmgren did leave and purposefully didn't meet up with Cowher, that was a pretty classless move.
02-06-2006, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by WdnUlik2no
Holmgren probably was so pissed at the refs he did not want to shake anyone's hand.
02-06-2006, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by WdnUlik2no
Holmgren probably was so pissed at the refs he did not want to shake anyone's hand.
02-06-2006, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ccannizz11
If that's true, I just lost a lot of respect for him.
02-06-2006, 02:50 PM
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Parallax error!!!!
Ahh, the tastefulness of a sticker found on the rear window of a really trashy american car coupled with the inability to accept the fact that your team just wasn't good enough.
02-06-2006, 02:57 PM
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Is that bigfoot or a UFO in there?