Always Dirty

It's tough to lose the superbowl, and it certainly isn't any easier under these types of circumstances.

hornyleprechaun

how many times do i have to say it.. the ball could cross the line in the air in row 25 but the player would still have to have a bodypart go inside or over the pylon.. that is the rule.. so no carl lewis couldn't jump 10 yards and score a touchdown unless he has a monster elephant penis that could extend inside the pylon

WdnUlik2no

Thats what I said in my post! I was saying that you and cazzy were right I was was wrong.

Always Dirty

What if the aforementioned monster elephant penis only touched the pylon?

hornyleprechaun

he wouldn't score a td unless a bodypart went inside the pylon though

hornyleprechaun

touchdown!

Always Dirty

What if it was just a pube?

hornyleprechaun

it would have to be reviewed and magnified to make sure the pube got inside the pylon

WdnUlik2no

exactly! that why I said Carl Lewis wouldn't have scored a TD in my scenario. A part of his body (ie. penis) has to be inbounds.

hornyleprechaun

ahh i see i missed that part in your post

ludachrisvt

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^

cM3go

I was rooting for the Steelers, but the refs definetly shafted the Seahawks a few times

Always Dirty

I can't wait to tell my woman all of this, and that it was explained to me by a horny leprechaun.

hornyleprechaun

haha good

jlukja

When you have posession of the ball, you are not considered out of bounds unless you touch an area that is out of bounds. So, when Carl Lewis is running for the endzone and leaps from in-bounds and the nose of the ball breaks the plane of the goal line (between the pylons) before any part of his body touches out-of-bounds its considered a touchdown (no matter how far to the left or right of the pylon his body is when the ball crosses the goal line).

WdnUlik2no

Yep, that is correct. But what I was demonstrating is if he dives out out bounds, cross the plane of the goal line, but no part of his body or the ball is ever in between the pylons.
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GOALLINE | Lewis ends up here before touching ground



In that diagram above that is not a TD if Carl Lewis is never inbounds on his dive.

Mike 350Z

Why did Terry Bradshaw decline the invitation to walk out with the other MVP's?

SRK85

I predict the steelers will win 21-10 in the superowl.

ccannizz11

OK, according to Michael Wilbon on PTI, it wasn't a snub on purpose by Holmgren after the game. Apparently they did have trouble getting together, but Holmgren made it a point to praise Cowher in interviews after the game. Something about so many people on the field after the Super Bowl compared to a regular game makes it harder for the coaches to find each other.

GreenMonster

Probably for the same reason Montana did... Montana allegidly wanted $100K to show up...

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?id...eadlines&ft=ss

ccannizz11

^^^ Bradshaw has maintained that he would be with his family for a while now. Ther's really nobody questioning that. Montana is getting serious heat though, if this $100k rumor is true.

WdnUlik2no

I knew I didn't remember seeing Joe Montana up there. I thought they were going by each superbowl, but for some, they just said "From the 80's". Thats pretty messed up if he wanted 100k.

endo022

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why don't you go and take a look at what all ther NATIONAL sports writers are writing about the game.....foxsports, espn, etc....they are all pointing to the REFS as the deciding factor in this game.

you mention the drop passes and missed FG but how about the TD pass to Jackson on a BS past interference call? how about the phantom holding call after seattle completed a pass to the pitt's 1 yard line (that would have been a guaranteed TD with Alexander in a subsequent play) or how about the touchdown that wasn't with Ben Roethlisberger.....that's a 21 point swing....that's the game right there

ccannizz11

Actually, that's not true. If you assume that seattle scores after that pass to the 1 yard line (and no it's not a given after the way Pitt held the MVP in check for the entire game), then you also have to assume that after Ben's touchdown gets called back on 3rd down, that pittsburgh either goes on to score the touchdown on fourth down or they kick the field goal from the 1 inch line. so, at most it's an 18 point swing, maybe only 14.

Not to mention that you can't argue the pass interference call, because it was pass interference. Sure, you might be able to say it happens all the time, and never gets called that closely, but seattle was just dumb enought to do it 3 feet in front of the official with absolutely no one else around. Makes the call pretty easy, so that takes another 7 off the swing, and it's down to a 7 point or 11 point swing, if you're lucky.

Fact is, seattle didn't make plays. Their receivers were out of bounds on two key plays, they were out of sync with the qb on blitzes, and at least three times didn't even know where the ball was when it was coming to them. Add that to all the drops, and they should've lost by a lot more.

WdnUlik2no

The Ben TD run was ruled a TD on the field so the ref needed indisputable evidence to overturn it. While Ben was in the air they saw they ball cross the plane of the goal line; therefore a TD, regardless of where he lands. Even if the ball didn't cross the goal line while he was in the air, the refs did not have clear visual evidence to overturn it.

Same thing would have happened the other way around, if the play was ruled short of the endzone and it was challenged, the refs probably not (and should not) have overturned it in that case either. Again clear visual evidence is needed.

The Pass Inteference call was a penalty, he did push off no matter how blatant or subtle. But it did look like the ref was pretty late on the flag.

Back to the holding penalty, I am not sure, I only saw on side of it, I didn't see what his hands were doing on the other side.

But it all comes down to missed opportunities. Stephens had butter fingers most of the game, and they missed two FG's. Hasselbeck had a great game for the most part, but that late INT did them in.

ccannizz11

The ref was only late with the flag because when he went to pull it out the first time, he missed.

WdnUlik2no

oh

97BlackAckCL

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And double

lowpost

Anyone who's been watching sports for more than 5 years would not interpret what Stevens said as talking shit. What Stevens said was so fucking harmless and non-inflammatory that it would take just the right punk to blow it out of proportion and make something out of nothing. and there you go.

lowpost

You must be joking or smoking..he was touched, fell down and the ground casued the fumble, He had control of the balluntil his arm hit the gournd. Clear as day.

In Genereal, the officiating was poor and Seahawks got the bad calls - not the steelers. I'm not even a Seahoawks fan, but every call and bad call went against the hawks. penalties 7 to 3, and 4 of the 7 were bad. I'm not sayinf the Hawks would have won, but it would have been a closer game. Shit if punk bitch Porter can say it, I'll say it - the officials wanted the Steelers to win, and probably fomr his whinning ass. Anyways this is why almost every newspaper and sports columnits outside of Pitt this morning has mentioned the poor officiating.

And the "pushoff" was more like a hand touch and did not casue any separation. The defender had already stopped moving and wasn't even aware the ball was coming. The receiver was already moving away so the best the defneder could have done was commit some pass interference since the balls was thrown so far away from the defender. Should have been a no-call.

But I am Happy that Bettis and Hines Ward got a ring - 2 guys with class.

hornyleprechaun

so what do you classify what he said "a guaranteed win" as? he also said bettis wouldn't be leaving detroit with the trophy...

ccannizz11

I think it's safe to say you've never played defense in football before.

Mike 350Z

Actually he grabbed his black beanbag (the thing they toss on the ground to mark fumbles) then reached down again and got his flag.

A notable point is that championship teams overcome shaky officiating. See ex. A: Pit vs. Indy 3 weeks ago.

WdnUlik2no

Yep. Pittsburgh could have let that terrible terrible call take all the air out of them. But they still played like they were playing all game and came out with the win.

lowpost

Actually I have, but who gives a fuck - what's your fucking point? It's just my interpretatin of what I saw versus what other people saw. I saw a defender who had already stopped moving. Talk about that.

Maximized

The defender got burned, simple as that. It was a bad call and the contact wasn't enough to warrant it.

ccannizz11

Both the defender AND the receiver had stopped moving. The defender was all over him, and the receiver had nowhere to go, he extended his arm to create space. The defender's momentum was leaning in the right direction, but the push-off stalled him, just enough to create space for the pass. It didn't take much but it got the job done.

Too bad he did it right in front of the official because that kinda thing probably happens on about 80% off all pass plays, and only gets called on less than half of those.

Jonesi

How do you get burned from a near stand still by both players?

It was a nice post up but there was no reason for him to create seperation. It was a nice pass outside of the defenders reach.. A quick judgement call by the ref and it became pass interference..

There are Many more refs on the field that could've overturned it.



The sad part is the refs don't make these calls during the season and as soon as the playoffs come there's all these newly enforced penalties. :shakehead

All the playoff games have been fucked up since the first game.

Jonesi

He wasn't all over him...


And I'd say less then half the time.. Probably 10% or less.. It happened all season with no call.

ccannizz11

I'm not saying he was all over him like he was interfering with him. Just that he had him completely covered until he pushed off, even though i don't think he needed to, and I think Hasselback told him that.