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02-06-2006, 11:34 AM
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I loved how Cowher used basically the same exact gadget play and the exact Big Ben QB roll out to the left TD play that he used to beat the Bengals.
How did Holmgren not see that coming a mile away?
How did Holmgren not see that coming a mile away?
02-06-2006, 11:45 AM
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This says it all:
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http://spaces.msn.com/beoshingus/blo...C88C!434.entry
02-06-2006, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by hornyleprechaun
two feet in = possesion then you decide if the ball was across the goal line
His second foot hit the pylon.....What the hell game were you watching.
02-06-2006, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 03 CLS
His second foot hit the pylon.....What the hell game were you watching.
that still isn't possesion.. you need to have 2 feet on the ground or the equivelent of an elbow or knee to count as possesion.. if he had both feet in then hit the pylon then it would have counted but he only had one foot in... the pylon didn't obstruct him from getting his 2nd foot in bounds he just didn't get it down and in
02-06-2006, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Beoshingus
This says it all:
http://spaces.msn.com/beoshingus/blo...C88C!434.entry
http://spaces.msn.com/beoshingus/blo...C88C!434.entry
ouch... http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/fl...e&pollId=35171
02-06-2006, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Scottman111
I loved how Cowher used basically the same exact gadget play and the exact Big Ben QB roll out to the left TD play that he used to beat the Bengals.
How did Holmgren not see that coming a mile away?
How did Holmgren not see that coming a mile away?
02-06-2006, 11:52 AM
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did that one steeler who had the return where he dove over the one guy and look like he got his back broken make it out ok?
they came back to the game and didn't even mention what looked like a nasty injury...
they came back to the game and didn't even mention what looked like a nasty injury...
02-06-2006, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
That's the Steelers game... Run the ball..
Still not going to argue with you.. This is the first playoff game you watched this year..
You were rooting for Seattle from the beginning..
Still not going to argue with you.. This is the first playoff game you watched this year..
You were rooting for Seattle from the beginning..
02-06-2006, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 03typeS6spd
did that one steeler who had the return where he dove over the one guy and look like he got his back broken make it out ok?
they came back to the game and didn't even mention what looked like a nasty injury...
they came back to the game and didn't even mention what looked like a nasty injury...
yes it wae Randle El and I think he threw for a touchdown later in the game.
02-06-2006, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Scottman111
I loved how Cowher used basically the same exact gadget play and the exact Big Ben QB roll out to the left TD play that he used to beat the Bengals.
How did Holmgren not see that coming a mile away?
How did Holmgren not see that coming a mile away?
02-06-2006, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Beoshingus
This says it all:
http://spaces.msn.com/beoshingus/blo...C88C!434.entry
http://spaces.msn.com/beoshingus/blo...C88C!434.entry
I knew I couldn't be the only one who was reminded of Wrestlemania!
The poll is hilarious... http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/fl...e&pollId=35171
48 States feel Superbowl was a sham! Even 47% of Pennsyltucky residents!
02-06-2006, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 03typeS6spd
did that one steeler who had the return where he dove over the one guy and look like he got his back broken make it out ok?
they came back to the game and didn't even mention what looked like a nasty injury...
they came back to the game and didn't even mention what looked like a nasty injury...
Yea, he made a nice pass to Hines Ward for a TD later in the game.. He's ok..
02-06-2006, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 03typeS6spd
did that one steeler who had the return where he dove over the one guy and look like he got his back broken make it out ok?
they came back to the game and didn't even mention what looked like a nasty injury...
they came back to the game and didn't even mention what looked like a nasty injury...
02-06-2006, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike97 3.0P
He was ruled down by contact, only after the replay showed teh LB got a few fingers on him 
My point was is that the refs were trying to give it to Pittsburgh. I mean what if they didn't have a time out for a reply challenge. IT should have been ruled down to begin with.
02-06-2006, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by soopa
48 States feel Superbowl was a sham! Even 47% of Pennsyltucky residents! We have Philadelphia over there.. They are our evil step brother..
02-06-2006, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 03 CLS
My point was is that the refs were trying to give it to Pittsburgh. I mean what if they didn't have a time out for a reply challenge. IT should have been ruled down to begin with.
Since it was sooo obvious his fingers touched his shirt..
02-06-2006, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 03 CLS
My point was is that the refs were trying to give it to Pittsburgh. I mean what if they didn't have a time out for a reply challenge. IT should have been ruled down to begin with.
02-06-2006, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by GOOSE
ummm, no. If at any time any part of the ball crosses any part of the line, it's a touchdown. doesn't matter where it lands.
a lot of the people complaining about the calls must be REALLY casual football fans who don't seem to know the finer details of the rules.
whatever was called in live action on the field (in this case, touchdown), gets the benefit of the doubt. no clear, conclusive evidence on the replay = call stands
a lot of the people complaining about the calls must be REALLY casual football fans who don't seem to know the finer details of the rules.
whatever was called in live action on the field (in this case, touchdown), gets the benefit of the doubt. no clear, conclusive evidence on the replay = call stands
x2 Eventhough you are a Patriots fan your are absolutely right. 
02-06-2006, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by hornyleprechaun
that still isn't possesion.. you need to have 2 feet on the ground or the equivelent of an elbow or knee to count as possesion.. if he had both feet in then hit the pylon then it would have counted but he only had one foot in... the pylon didn't obstruct him from getting his 2nd foot in bounds he just didn't get it down and in
Are you on crack the pylon is IN bounds.
02-06-2006, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Always Dirty
What a jackass.
I'm surprised about Bradshaw too. I wouldn't expect that from his dumbass.
02-06-2006, 12:13 PM
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quote WdnUlike2no>
you are not rule out of bounds until you hit the ground. If the ball went out at the 2 and somehow the guy extends the ball across the imaginary plane BEFORE he hits the ground, its a TD.
At the sideline, the "imaginary plane" stops at the pylon...which is why you always see people stretch out the ball over/inside the pylon. They can also hit the pylon with the ball.
you are not rule out of bounds until you hit the ground. If the ball went out at the 2 and somehow the guy extends the ball across the imaginary plane BEFORE he hits the ground, its a TD.
At the sideline, the "imaginary plane" stops at the pylon...which is why you always see people stretch out the ball over/inside the pylon. They can also hit the pylon with the ball.
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02-06-2006, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by soopa
WdnUlike2no, how about thinking before you post instead of deleting 9 out of 10 of your own posts? 
But he's making some good points..!!
02-06-2006, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by cazzy
quote WdnUlike2no>
you are not rule out of bounds until you hit the ground. If the ball went out at the 2 and somehow the guy extends the ball across the imaginary plane BEFORE he hits the ground, its a TD.
At the sideline, the "imaginary plane" stops at the pylon...which is why you always see people stretch out the ball over/inside the pylon. They can also hit the pylon with the ball.
you are not rule out of bounds until you hit the ground. If the ball went out at the 2 and somehow the guy extends the ball across the imaginary plane BEFORE he hits the ground, its a TD.
At the sideline, the "imaginary plane" stops at the pylon...which is why you always see people stretch out the ball over/inside the pylon. They can also hit the pylon with the ball.
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02-06-2006, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by soopa
WdnUlike2no, how about thinking before you post instead of deleting 9 out of 10 of your own posts?
I was trying to add something before the 5 minute time limit expires.
02-06-2006, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by cazzy
quote WdnUlike2no>
you are not rule out of bounds until you hit the ground. If the ball went out at the 2 and somehow the guy extends the ball across the imaginary plane BEFORE he hits the ground, its a TD.
At the sideline, the "imaginary plane" stops at the pylon...which is why you always see people stretch out the ball over/inside the pylon. They can also hit the pylon with the ball.
you are not rule out of bounds until you hit the ground. If the ball went out at the 2 and somehow the guy extends the ball across the imaginary plane BEFORE he hits the ground, its a TD.
At the sideline, the "imaginary plane" stops at the pylon...which is why you always see people stretch out the ball over/inside the pylon. They can also hit the pylon with the ball.
that is not true... like i said earlier michael vick had the ball go across the goal line in the air to the left of the pylon (out of bounds) while he stretched his hand inside the pylon over the goal line. It was ruled no touchdown but they reviewed it and ruled it was a touchdown according to the rule.
02-06-2006, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by soopa
I'm surprised about Bradshaw too. I wouldn't expect that from his dumbass.
02-06-2006, 12:22 PM
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Actually, that was the first time they ran that particular play all year. Either way, Holmgren should have been expecting some type of gadget play...considering it is Pittsburgh. On the other hand, I thought they set it up pretty nicely.
Randle El rolled to the right, then threw a pass down field to (i think) Ward.
02-06-2006, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by WdnUlik2no
No, the pylon extends to infinity. John Madden even said during one MNF game that the Pylon extends as far as "Timbuktu".
I think you are confusing the line of scrimmage...like when a QB throws the ball out of bounds, the line of scrimmage extends forever. So if he throws it 15 feet into the stands, as long as it is thrown past the LOS, it is not a penalty. Considering he is out of the pocket of course.
02-06-2006, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 03 CLS
Are you on crack the pylon is IN bounds.
02-06-2006, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by hornyleprechaun
that is not true... like i said earlier michael vick had the ball go across the goal line in the air to the left of the pylon (out of bounds) while he stretched his hand inside the pylon over the goal line. It was ruled no touchdown but they reviewed it and ruled it was a touchdown according to the rule.
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02-06-2006, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Scottman111
Hmmm are you sure? I don't know if you watched the Bengals-Steelers playoff but they did "basically" the same play. I know it wasn't exact and it definitely wasn't as pretty as last nights play but it had the same form.
Randle El rolled to the right, then threw a pass down field to (i think) Ward.
Randle El rolled to the right, then threw a pass down field to (i think) Ward.
no. It was from Ben.. They rolled right with Randle El then passed it back across to Ben then to Cedric Wilson..
The closest repeat to that play was against Cleveland..
02-06-2006, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
no. It was from Ben.. They rolled right with Randle El then passed it back across to Ben then to Cedric Wilson..
The closest repeat to that play was against Cleveland..
The closest repeat to that play was against Cleveland..
02-06-2006, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cazzy
I see your point, and the more you reference that play...I remember it. He on the other hand is saying you can dive out of bounds without the ball or any part of the ball carriers body over the pylon and it still be ruled a TD. According to him and "Madden", the runner can leap at the 5 yard line towards the stands without coming near the the pylon or the endzone....but as long as he makes it past the goal line, it's a TD because it extends to infinity.
o ok he is wrong then. either the ball or any bodypart has to cross inside/over the pylon but the ball still has to cross the infinite goal line... i'm trying to find a picture of vick doing it.. there is supposed to be a great shot of it
02-06-2006, 12:38 PM
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Funny, funny: http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...l/13801313.htm
02-06-2006, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
The gadget play.
That made the seahawks DB's look ridiculous....
Even on the interception (the one that broke the record for longest interception return), the seahawk DB was beat, it's just that Roethlisberger threw a bad pass right at him (lucky??)...
Oh, and to make the Seahawks look even worst... Roethlisberger set a superbowl record too... He has the worst QB rating for a QB on the winning team in superbowl history (9/21 - 2 picks)
