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Old 03-11-2011, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CarbonGray Earl
Whatever dude, Daisy can wait.

I find it funny how you completely skipped over the Wade/Lebron era.
Era...? Please...LeBron to me is almost the 2nd coming of Wilkins. Where's the titles?


Wade...well, at least he's got a ring. But, nothing to the calibre of Beef. However, in Rose...I smell some titles...

Maybe, just maybe...
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I hate to say it but once the Heat get betting coaching and an interior presence they will be pretty much unstoppable.
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Originally Posted by clpassenubye
I hate to say it but once the Heat get betting coaching and an interior presence they will be pretty much unstoppable.
That is a big if.


As much as I make light of the Heat, the issue right now is that you have 3 "prime" type players who don't seem to be able to adequately play with each other...especially when the going gets tough.

Sure, they can blow out the varsity-type teams like Sacramento or whatever, but against the top tiers...they don't look that scary especially when the opposition has a good game plan and solid defense set up.


It's obviously a different sport but like in say, hockey...you need your muckers...the guys who will roll up their sleeves and tough it out. Teams that have the scorers and the "muckers" who play effectively together in a system is what wins. Heat have scoring...oodles of it with LeBron et al. But, as for the rest? Well...
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Era...? Please...LeBron to me is almost the 2nd coming of Wilkins. Where's the titles?


Wade...well, at least he's got a ring. But, nothing to the calibre of Beef. However, in Rose...I smell some titles...

Maybe, just maybe...
Chicago ownership was quoted recently as saying he/they want 'at least 4' with Rose. Interesting....
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^ I can see it possibly.

Rose is not a diva athlete...he is not selfish...he is not a LeChoker...I think he can do it.
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Rose = Jonathan Toews of basketball.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
That is a big if.


As much as I make light of the Heat, the issue right now is that you have 3 "prime" type players who don't seem to be able to adequately play with each other...especially when the going gets tough.

Sure, they can blow out the varsity-type teams like Sacramento or whatever, but against the top tiers...they don't look that scary especially when the opposition has a good game plan and solid defense set up.


It's obviously a different sport but like in say, hockey...you need your muckers...the guys who will roll up their sleeves and tough it out. Teams that have the scorers and the "muckers" who play effectively together in a system is what wins. Heat have scoring...oodles of it with LeBron et al. But, as for the rest? Well...
I know others may feel different but Spo needs to Go he has no poise as a coach and he doesn't make the necessary in game adjustments to maximize his teams talents. As good as Lebron and Wade are they still need coaching. I wouldn't put Bosh in the "prime" category I think he's a step below that and he has shown it but that is still pretty good. It may seem like they can't adequately play with each other but that is the symptom of subpar coaching. I think that with the current talent on this Heat team they would be in the same position they are now with a monkey on the bench and if they had a better coach they would have the NBA's best record.

Chicago has some things the Heat don't have. 1) Better coaching 2) Inside presence 3) Team unity (everyone plays their role) 4) Better bench 5) less arrogance and more willing to work for the win.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
^ I can see it possibly.

Rose is not a diva athlete...he is not selfish...he is not a LeChoker...I think he can do it.
Rose hasn't even begun to do anything close to what LeBron has in the playoffs, sans title and all. I wouldn't even think of comparing Rose to LeBron just yet. Could Rose single handily take a team to the finals? Not yet.

However I could see him getting a ring or two in the future.
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^ Well, H...I truly believe Miami's title hopes lies with Wade. Not LeBron...

The guy needs to stop deferring to James. The sooner they can figure that out, the better for the team.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
^ Well, H...I truly believe Miami's title hopes lies with Wade. Not LeBron...

The guy needs to stop deferring to James. The sooner they can figure that out, the better for the team.
as Wade goes, the team goes. I don't think that's a knock against lebron, but its more of how the team fits together.

Its not something that statistics can answer either.
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Pau needs to put some more muscle on and stop being a bitch
Both Bosh and Gasol are softer than melted ice cream, Bosh just happened to be > Gasol yesterday.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
^ Well, H...I truly believe Miami's title hopes lies with Wade. Not LeBron...

The guy needs to stop deferring to James. The sooner they can figure that out, the better for the team.
So your saying Wade is Batman and Lebron is Robin right?
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
^ Well, H...I truly believe Miami's title hopes lies with Wade. Not LeBron...

The guy needs to stop deferring to James. The sooner they can figure that out, the better for the team.
I agree, Wade needs to be the closer.
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So Robin is up for mvp?
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Great win by the Bulls. The bench really stepped out and filled in for Boozer. Roze had an amazing night as well. Loved that Rasual Butler got to play and nailed a three.
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Wow....just wow at the Orlando-GSW game.

A 21 point comeback by Oaktown. Most combined 3s in an NBA game. 39 pts, 11 assists by Monta Ellis (really underrated IMO player). GSW with 60% from the 3 point line. Orlando had a great comeback earlier, and now it turns on them.
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Even the highlights from the GSW game was nuts.
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Originally Posted by Doom878
So Robin is up for mvp?
Yeah but he won't win.
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^ You kidding? Who is this overrated poser called Rose going around masquerading as an "MVP candidate"...?

Lies!
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Bosh should be MVP.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbPG6VYtsRU

Rusty impregnating that hoop. That hoop is having babies right now. I want him and Rose for dunk contest '12.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Boozer should be MVP.
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Hard to get a handle on who the regular season mvp is. Finals mvp is more important though...
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Great win for the Lakers putting their Western Conference rivals on notice that they are still the big dogs. Andrew Bynum is playing well right now and we need that.
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Originally Posted by clpassenubye
Great win for the Lakers putting their Western Conference rivals on notice that they are still the big dogs. Andrew Bynum is playing well right now and we need that.
yup, seems like the Lakers are waking up... even the lost to Miami was a well played game
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Originally Posted by CarbonGray Earl
Hard to get a handle on who the regular season mvp is. Finals mvp is more important though...
There are several that statistically qualify to be in the MVP race but I can't name one other than Derrick Rose this season that has the stats and has literally carried his team to where they are despite all the injuries they've had. Not Durant, Wade, James, Paul, Bryant, Howard or any other so its pretty clear to me. Plus Rose has defeated most of his MVP rivals this season.
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Rose had a monster game tonight...And Bulls are tied with Boston now!
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Rose had a monster game tonight...And Bulls are tied with Boston now!
are they gonna get another ring? naw....
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Originally Posted by clpassenubye
There are several that statistically qualify to be in the MVP race but I can't name one other than Derrick Rose this season that has the stats and has literally carried his team to where they are despite all the injuries they've had. Not Durant, Wade, James, Paul, Bryant, Howard or any other so its pretty clear to me. Plus Rose has defeated most of his MVP rivals this season.
I agree completely....there are a couple that are statistically interesting, but no one seems as important as Rose, nor has the record to show for it.

IMO, the preponderance of big 3s, big 2s, big 4s, whatever combinations of players, dilutes the pool a bit, as the focus for that standard choices has turned towards consolidating talents to win championships. Despite this trend, Rose and the Bulls are not only standing out amongst those other candidates/teams, he has the winning record to show for it.

In short, best player on the team with the best record? Hard to argue with that....

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MIL 56 - 87 BOS

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Wow @ 56 scored by the Bucks...
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Heat Win!

i guess crying does help.

Heat 110
Spurs 80
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Nice win. 30 point revenge no less. Plus Bosh put up 30 on them, not bad for an overrated softy. More importantly 3 in a row with 2 "elites" beaten. Now to figure out the east.
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^ I'm not impressed. The LeHeat should've won by 50+ points. It should be a prerequisite. They should do defensively what the Celtics did to the Bucks. The Spurs should've only tossed in 60 points or less against such a roster of future HoFers. LeMiniMe included. He's MVP.
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Haha. Always less replies after Heat wins. Same on local radio. How people love train wrecks.
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Haha. Always less replies after Heat wins. Same on local radio. How people love train wrecks.
Still a trainwreck.


My no-name Bulls are UNDEFEATED against the SUPREME-GAWDLY-AWESOMENESS that is known as the LeHeat.
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Haha. Always less replies after Heat wins. Same on local radio. How people love train wrecks.
i love it even more when Yummy's plans fail


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