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Old 06-23-2013 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
One more win...
Old 06-23-2013 | 09:36 AM
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Nice to see the Yumchawks show up for a change
Old 06-23-2013 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
One more win...but, with casualties on both sides: Bergeron and Toews.


Ack. I think Hawks needs Toews more than Boston needs Bergeron...
I dunno, Bergeron is a huge loss
Old 06-23-2013 | 12:58 PM
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Leafs get Bernier.

Frattin, Scrivens and a 2nd rounder in 14 or 15. Frattin has promise, otherwise good deal for the Leaves.
Old 06-23-2013 | 01:01 PM
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Moog, what else can we take from LA? CEO, backup goalie? Time for pancakes?
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Old 06-23-2013 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
Leafs get Bernier.

Frattin, Scrivens and a 2nd rounder in 14 or 15. Frattin has promise, otherwise good deal for the Leaves.
Congrats on getting the future Glenn Hall!
Old 06-24-2013 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by dom
Moog, what else can we take from LA? CEO, backup goalie? Time for pancakes?
Old 06-24-2013 | 11:29 AM
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Old 06-24-2013 | 12:20 PM
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Old 06-24-2013 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
Leafs get Bernier.

Frattin, Scrivens and a 2nd rounder in 14 or 15. Frattin has promise, otherwise good deal for the Leaves.
...and thanks for the extra $500k in cap room too.

I told you Timmy was going to get Bernier to the Leafs.

My take, the deal was good for both teams with an edge to LA.

The deal filled so many "holes" for the Kings.
LA got a pick it needed, got a decent backup goaltender, got a top 9 young forward (and possible upside of a top 6), and the Leafs threw in an extra $500k in extra cap space for LA.

Leafs got (what I believe) their future #1 goaltender.
Bernier IMHO is one of the most technically sound netminders around.
He is great, and will only get better. I think he will thrive as a starter.
His time is now, and he just might bring the Leafs The Cup the way Doughty brought Canada the goldz.

Did the Leafs really need to fill a goaltender spot in the off season? Not really, but clearly management thinks so.

This is one of those deals that will become par for the course in the new CBA NHL. The Kings would have loved to keep Bernier, but because of the cap, they couldn't. The days of being able to have "Fuhr and Moog" as your 1 and 2 are over.
Old 06-24-2013 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
...and thanks for the extra $500k in cap room too.

I told you Timmy was going to get Bernier to the Leafs.

My take, the deal was good for both teams with an edge to LA.

The deal filled so many "holes" for the Kings.
LA got a pick it needed, got a decent backup goaltender, got a top 9 young forward (and possible upside of a top 6), and the Leafs threw in an extra $500k in extra cap space for LA.

Leafs got (what I believe) their future #1 goaltender.
Bernier IMHO is one of the most technically sound netminders around.
He is great, and will only get better. I think he will thrive as a starter.
His time is now, and he just might bring the Leafs The Cup the way Doughty brought Canada the goldz.

Did the Leafs really need to fill a goaltender spot in the off season? Not really, but clearly management thinks so.

This is one of those deals that will become par for the course in the new CBA NHL. The Kings would have loved to keep Bernier, but because of the cap, they couldn't. The days of being able to have "Fuhr and Moog" as your 1 and 2 are over.
Just a question, Waldorf: Your goalie pipeline is pretty decent with Berube and Jones...did the Kings really need Scrivens and could've asked for another prospect instead like at wing...?

Just wondering. Or maybe the Leaves had to give up a goalie...?


Cuz, just hope Toronto does not have a repeat of Rask/Pogge Part II.
Old 06-24-2013 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
Thick with flies?


Yeah, what's with the flies...? First time I've seen this.
Old 06-24-2013 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
...and thanks for the extra $500k in cap room too.

I told you Timmy was going to get Bernier to the Leafs.

My take, the deal was good for both teams with an edge to LA.

The deal filled so many "holes" for the Kings.
LA got a pick it needed, got a decent backup goaltender, got a top 9 young forward (and possible upside of a top 6), and the Leafs threw in an extra $500k in extra cap space for LA.

Leafs got (what I believe) their future #1 goaltender.
Bernier IMHO is one of the most technically sound netminders around.
He is great, and will only get better. I think he will thrive as a starter.
His time is now, and he just might bring the Leafs The Cup the way Doughty brought Canada the goldz.

Did the Leafs really need to fill a goaltender spot in the off season? Not really, but clearly management thinks so.

This is one of those deals that will become par for the course in the new CBA NHL. The Kings would have loved to keep Bernier, but because of the cap, they couldn't. The days of being able to have "Fuhr and Moog" as your 1 and 2 are over.
Frattin may be a player, hard to tell. Had glimpses of brilliance but the moments were few and far between. Have to give something to get something I guess.

I really thought the Leafs had some faith in Reimer, but apparently not. Can't say I blame them. And the thing to remember is this is not Nonis' roster, its still Burke's. Plenty of Cap space for the Leafs so that 500K doesn't mean much. Hope they can cherry pick a few more players off rosters that are in cap hell.

Bit surprised there was no mention of Pittsburgh in the Bernier sweepstakes?
Old 06-24-2013 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha

Cuz, just hope Toronto does not have a repeat of Rask/Pogge Part II.
How exactly does that relate to Reimer-Bernier?

Both players were drafted by the Leafs and they traded away Raask cause they had faith in Pogge. Big mistake.

They don't have faith in Reimer so they got another option. Both could potentially be #1's but if it doesn't work out neither are/will be highly paid so the risk is low.

I think there's 0 chance of Scrivens turns into Raask. He's a career back up.
Old 06-24-2013 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dom

Bit surprised there was no mention of Pittsburgh in the Bernier sweepstakes?
Well, I think they shot down that possibility when they handed Fleury the keys for next season in their post-season wrap-up.


Who knows, if they can fix that D of theirs, maybe Fleury won't be so in net and that equates to some success? For sure, the team that won the Cup in 2008 sure played tighter defensively than this and last years' iterations.
Old 06-24-2013 | 01:42 PM
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Good goalies steal a game here and there when the team defense is or take a night off. Fleury isn't doing that.

And where exactly will Pitt get the cap space to fix that defense? Aren't they talking about possibly trading their best D-Man?

I'm sure BlackAck will filll me in with details
Old 06-24-2013 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
Good goalies steal a game here and there when the team defense is or take a night off. Fleury isn't doing that.

And where exactly will Pitt get the cap space to fix that defense? Aren't they talking about possibly trading their best D-Man?

I'm sure BlackAck will filll me in with details
And Fleury DID steal a game here and there in the past. But, the Pens D has gone more and more the way of the early-Boudreau Caps and so, he's become more of a basketcase, no...?


Not a regular observer of the Pens though. So, I'll leave it to Jonesi (not) or 97Ack to comment.
Old 06-24-2013 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Just a question, Waldorf: Your goalie pipeline is pretty decent with Berube and Jones...did the Kings really need Scrivens and could've asked for another prospect instead like at wing...?

Just wondering. Or maybe the Leaves had to give up a goalie...?


Cuz, just hope Toronto does not have a repeat of Rask/Pogge Part II.
Kings want Jones and Berube to get a bit more seasoning in the minors before jumping to the big time.
Old 06-24-2013 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
And Fleury DID steal a game here and there in the past.
Exactly. He ain't bad in the regular season either. I just think its suicide for Pitt to go into next year without some insurance in net.
Old 06-24-2013 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Kings want Jones and Berube to get a bit more seasoning in the minors before jumping to the big time.
Ah okay. Thanks.
Old 06-24-2013 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
Good goalies steal a game here and there when the team defense is or take a night off. Fleury isn't doing that.

And where exactly will Pitt get the cap space to fix that defense? Aren't they talking about possibly trading their best D-Man?

I'm sure BlackAck will filll me in with details
Bingo.

The Crosbies are a trainwreck. They are refusing to address the fixable areas of their roster, instead they are plunging themselves into cap hell.

Poor D.
Poor goaltending.
Old 06-24-2013 | 02:04 PM
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BTW - Really hoping the Hawks lose tonight and in Game 7. I'd hate to see Yumchah happy again.
Old 06-24-2013 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
BTW - Really hoping the Hawks lose tonight and in Game 7. I'd hate to see Yumchah happy again.
Coin flip for tonight.

Closest-fought series for a long time. Entertaining as heck.

...although, terrible for your ticker if you are a fan of either team. And if the Hawks win, you promised to zipit about goaltending with me forever.
Old 06-24-2013 | 02:09 PM
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Expect srika to be a regular in this thread if the Hawks win it all. I will have company!
Old 06-24-2013 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
Bit surprised there was no mention of Pittsburgh in the Bernier sweepstakes?
Fleury is our number 1 and we still have Vokoun signed as a backup for next year...

Originally Posted by Yumcha
Well, I think they shot down that possibility when they handed Fleury the keys for next season in their post-season wrap-up.


Who knows, if they can fix that D of theirs, maybe Fleury won't be so in net and that equates to some success? For sure, the team that won the Cup in 2008 sure played tighter defensively than this and last years' iterations.
It was 09, pookie

Originally Posted by dom
Good goalies steal a game here and there when the team defense is or take a night off. Fleury isn't doing that.

And where exactly will Pitt get the cap space to fix that defense? Aren't they talking about possibly trading their best D-Man?

I'm sure BlackAck will filll me in with details
Yep, they're shopping Letang as we speak... And keeping Paul Martin at 5 mil a year
Old 06-24-2013 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Coin flip for tonight.

Closest-fought series for a long time. Entertaining as heck.

...although, terrible for your ticker if you are a fan of either team. And if the Hawks win, you promised to zipit about goaltending with me forever.
Nobody ever said dom was smart. :wink:
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Old 06-24-2013 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Nobody ever said dom was smart. :wink:
If the Hawks can win with that stiff Crawford between the pipes, honestly how can I continue to rag him about elite goalies? Doesn't mean I believe you don't need one to win most years. Just said I'd stop bothering Yummy about it.
Old 06-24-2013 | 04:01 PM
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Torterella and the Canucks. Can't think of a coach and franchise who deserve each other more.

#trainwreck
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Old 06-24-2013 | 06:15 PM
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Nobody ever said dom was smart. :wink:
Indeed. Being a leaf fan automatically subtracts 20 from an IQ. An extra -3 for each Molson. So basically after any given leaves game, dom is content as a hamster spinning on a wheel.

Probably a good thing, it dulls the pain.
Old 06-24-2013 | 06:19 PM
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Expect srika to be a regular in this thread if the Hawks win it all.
I'll be pissed as fawk if this doesn't go seven games.

Hell, if I were srika, I would demand a full refund on his playoff tickets if he can't enjoy a game seven Stanley Cup Final game on home ice. Talk about getting jipped - sheesh.

And you can bet your bottom booty, I will beat him to the punch at bumping his epic Stanley Cup thread if the Hawks win. After all, have to live up to my lifetime A'zine achievement award.
Old 06-24-2013 | 10:51 PM
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Old 06-24-2013 | 10:51 PM
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Whole lee. Crap!
Old 06-24-2013 | 10:52 PM
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Fawk. Not quite a Leaf choke but close enough.
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Shining it up!
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Man o man, I thought I was going to have another long night !!
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What a comeback late in the 3rd, congrats Henry. Your team definitely deserved it
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A no-name goalie may win the Conn Smythe...



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