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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Yep...story here: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=2424...s=secStory_nhl
$5M for a guy who was -19, has health concerns, and is ancient...Then again, nevermind...lookit what the Leafs paid for Jeff Finger.
So, Blake is a steal if you do that comparison.
$5M for a guy who was -19, has health concerns, and is ancient...Then again, nevermind...lookit what the Leafs paid for Jeff Finger.
So, Blake is a steal if you do that comparison.
I still can't get over the fact that many teams are handing out crazy dollar amounts and crazy contract lengths to some of this year's FA.
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
So...Blake's a flake.
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Great quote/comment from someone on TSN
Ever notice that on your keyboard number 4 and $ is on the same key? That is what Blake is all about and only about.He would not let the Kings trade him at the deadline because he said he wanted to retire a King. I pray the Kings never retire his number
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
...Then again, nevermind...lookit what the Leafs paid for Jeff Finger.
I heard this morning that he was often a healthy scratch in the playoffs last year.
Jagr has apparently signed to play in Russia for 2 years.
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Boyle Traded to Sharks...
Tampa will receive a package that will include 23-year old defenseman Matt Carle, a first round draft pick, a prospect and a 4th round pick.
Story here: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=2424...=topStory_main
Story here: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=2424...=topStory_main
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Originally Posted by dom
Jagr has apparently signed to play in Russia for 2 years.
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Moore played for the Leafs last year. He was picked up on waivers later in the year and actually played well. Although I hope that contract wasn't for much more than 6-700k. He's most famous for being the brother of a nearly paralyzed Scott Moore.
No clue who Mitchell is but he better be under 25.
No clue who Mitchell is but he better be under 25.
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@ Daily Herald rumor that Hawks may be trading for Ryan Whitney...
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
@ Daily Herald rumor that Hawks may be trading for Ryan Whitney...
No no no no... I like Whitney. He needs to stay. Although, him and Therrien seem to butt heads alot.
And next time post the link when you make such claims.. :shakehead
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Going to Omsk Avangard apparently according to TSN...
I still call BS.. And it's Omsk Avangard that's making the claim.
The Russian teams for some reason continue to make all these claims.
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
No no no no... I like Whitney. He needs to stay. Although, him and Therrien seem to butt heads alot.
And next time post the link when you make such claims.. :shakehead
And next time post the link when you make such claims.. :shakehead
Usually a good writer and not off to orbit with his stories/rumors...
The Hawks are believed to have talked to Pittsburgh about 6-foot-4, 219-pound defenseman Ryan Whitney, who had 12 goals and 40 points last season.
Whitney, the fifth pick overall in the 2002 draft, is signed long term with a $4 million cap hit, but the Penguins might be looking to shave payroll after signing cornerstones Evgeni Malkin, Marc-Andre Fleury and Brooks Orpik to big contracts in the last few days.
Whitney, the fifth pick overall in the 2002 draft, is signed long term with a $4 million cap hit, but the Penguins might be looking to shave payroll after signing cornerstones Evgeni Malkin, Marc-Andre Fleury and Brooks Orpik to big contracts in the last few days.
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
I still call BS.. And it's Omsk Avangard that's making the claim.
The Russian teams for some reason continue to make all these claims.
The Russian teams for some reason continue to make all these claims.
The Russian hockey team Avangard Omsk announced it has signed the former New York Rangers star and Jagr's agent, Pat Brisson, confirmed the move Friday afternoon.
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Steve Bernier to Canucks for a 2nd and 3rd round pick
The Vancouver Canucks have announced that the team has acquired forward Steve Bernier from the Buffalo Sabres in exchange for a second round draft pick in 2010 and a third round pick in 2009.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=2424...s=topStory_nhl
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
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Holy fawk. Did I just read correctly that Jagr is signed to play for $17.5M per season...?!?!??
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I give that league 6 months if they're handing out that kind of dough.
But is it 35 mill over 2 or 35 mill over 3. Cause there's an option for the 3rd year.
I can understand that kind of money for Ovechkin or Malkin but Jagr????
But is it 35 mill over 2 or 35 mill over 3. Cause there's an option for the 3rd year.
I can understand that kind of money for Ovechkin or Malkin but Jagr????
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Originally Posted by dom
I can understand that kind of money for Ovechkin or Malkin but Jagr????
I'm sure alot of Oiler fans are lamenting how Jagr spurned them too...but, I think it's blessing for Edmonton that the guy decided to head off to Russia.
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Originally Posted by dr_brains510
Finally Blake and Visnovsky are gone...we need some young determined players in the back line for the Kings to become a solid, well-balanced team.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
We got 15 mill to go just to hit the cap floor.
Really?
Mcabe and Kubina. 11 mill combined. Problem solved.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
We have PLENTY of young kids....we need some vets to teach these young kids the ropes. We got 15 mill to go just to hit the cap floor.
On a related note too...the Canucks are about 2 million or so from the cap floor. Definitely not 15 million, but considering that the Canucks were near the ceiling the past 2 seasons.
chips and smokes, lets go
Local and international media were reporting that Jagr will be paid $35 million for two years. However, in an interview with TSN, Jagr, himself, says the deal would pay him $5 million annually.
LOL. Ya right. There is no way he's taking a pay cut to play in Siberia.
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Originally Posted by herbalist
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=242465&l...=topStory_main
LOL. Ya right. There is no way he's taking a pay cut to play in Siberia.
LOL. Ya right. There is no way he's taking a pay cut to play in Siberia.
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Lowe Fires Back @ Burke...
Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!
After a year of enduring the wrath of Brian Burke, Edmonton Oilers general manager Kevin Lowe finally fired back at the Anaheim Ducks' executive on Friday.
In a candid interview with Edmonton's Team 1260, Lowe - who stayed relatively quiet each time Burke went after him over the last 12 months - finally let it all out.
"Where do I begin?," started Lowe. "He's a moron, first of all. Secondly, he really believes that any news for the NHL is good news. Thirdly, he loves the limelight and I don't think anyone in hockey will dispute that. Lastly, he's in a pathetic hockey market where they can't get on any page of the newspaper let alone the front page of the sports, so any of this stuff carries on."
Burke and Lowe have been at odds since the Oilers put forth a five-year, $21.25 million offer sheet to Group II restricted free agent Dustin Penner last summer - a contract that the Ducks did not match and sent Penner to Edmonton.
At the time, Burke explained he had no problem with a team putting an offer sheet forward, but the money involved was the issue. Lowe responded in kind on Friday, saying the standard for such contracts was set long before the Penner signing.
"I mean, if he wants to debate what our offer sheet did to them or to the salaries, anytime," he explained to Team 1260. "The reality is, Rick Nash's contract a number of years ago, (Patrice) Bergeron's and (Ilya) Kovalchuk's; that sets the standard - that's been going on for decades. I'm sick and tired of it. I know everybody in hockey is. I know our peers are like, 'Well, that's Burkie.' This guy is an absolute media junkie and I guess he's achieving what he wants because he gets his name in the headlines. But the reality is, I hate the fact that my name is linked to his. He's an underachieving wanna-be in terms of success in the NHL. He won a Stanley Cup? Great. I've won six Stanley Cups, you want to count rings? Who cares, it's just a little pathetic that he carries on."
The latest chapter in the feud came on Wednesday, after the Ducks signed restricted free agent forward Corey Perry to a five-year extension worth $26.63 million. Burke had some choice words about the new salary climate in the NHL after this week's high-profile signings, and blamed Lowe for eliminating the 'second contract' from team-player negotiations.
The long-standing rivalry between Lowe and Burke has also brought up whispers of a conspiracy theory that the two men are hamming it up for added exposure for the league.
"I remember (L.A. Kings general manager) Dean Lombardi last summer saying to me, 'You guys are (just) putting this on, you're not really feeling this way. The NHL likes this stuff, they want to create a little angst in the media and stuff and get some headlines?'" recalled Lowe.
"I said, 'No Dean, this is real.' He was shocked that this was going on but Burkie loves the limelight. He's all bluff and loud and Mac T (head coach Craig MacTavish) said it best - he's like the Wizard of Oz, you pull the curtains away and there's not much substance."
Burke, who joined the Ducks as general manager in 2005, helped build a championship contender in Anaheim that eventually won the Stanley Cup in 2007. That achievement didn't score too high with Lowe, who was quick to point out the other ups and downs of his time with the Ducks, along with the shortcomings of Burke's former team, the Vancouver Canucks.
"Here's a fact - he left (former Canucks GM) Dave Nonis nothing in Vancouver," he explained. "Nothing. He destroyed that team. If it wasn't for Nonis' incredible deals - to con Mike Keenan to get (Roberto) Luongo in Vancouver - that team was taking a nose dive two years ago."
"I mean, that's his M.O., but no one says anything. He goes into Anaheim and he inherits an incredible team. He gets Chris Pronger - not because of our relationship, it just so happened we had five or six teams and targeted their assets. We had Florida, Anaheim, Philadelphia, San Jose and Los Angeles. He just happened to throw enough assets our way to get the player. Kudos to him. He recognizes that at the end of the day, you throw enough assets, you get the best player and you get a good deal. You never know in this business if you're going to win at the end of the day. He could have just decimated the franchise forever. I'll tell you this, they have not much coming. Bobby Ryan has been a questionable pick at No. 2 (overall in 2005), and up until this draft, they tried to move down and did a nice job of trying to replenish their depth chart. They had nothing coming, and that appears to be his M.O."
Lowe even left an intriguing cliffhanger for the radio station's listeners.
"Don't even ask me about Scott Niedermayer, I've already lowered myself in terms of (talking about) how they acquired him," he said. "That's a story for another day, but they were able to bring Niedermayer and Pronger in and they won a Stanley Cup."
In closing, Lowe went so far as to send out a tongue-in-cheek message to his front office nemesis.
"Anaheim has decent players - Corey Perry is a hell of a player," he said. "What I really want to say about his bickering about parity and the salary cap is if you're unhappy about them, then trade him (Perry) our way, we'll be glad to have him."
In a candid interview with Edmonton's Team 1260, Lowe - who stayed relatively quiet each time Burke went after him over the last 12 months - finally let it all out.
"Where do I begin?," started Lowe. "He's a moron, first of all. Secondly, he really believes that any news for the NHL is good news. Thirdly, he loves the limelight and I don't think anyone in hockey will dispute that. Lastly, he's in a pathetic hockey market where they can't get on any page of the newspaper let alone the front page of the sports, so any of this stuff carries on."
Burke and Lowe have been at odds since the Oilers put forth a five-year, $21.25 million offer sheet to Group II restricted free agent Dustin Penner last summer - a contract that the Ducks did not match and sent Penner to Edmonton.
At the time, Burke explained he had no problem with a team putting an offer sheet forward, but the money involved was the issue. Lowe responded in kind on Friday, saying the standard for such contracts was set long before the Penner signing.
"I mean, if he wants to debate what our offer sheet did to them or to the salaries, anytime," he explained to Team 1260. "The reality is, Rick Nash's contract a number of years ago, (Patrice) Bergeron's and (Ilya) Kovalchuk's; that sets the standard - that's been going on for decades. I'm sick and tired of it. I know everybody in hockey is. I know our peers are like, 'Well, that's Burkie.' This guy is an absolute media junkie and I guess he's achieving what he wants because he gets his name in the headlines. But the reality is, I hate the fact that my name is linked to his. He's an underachieving wanna-be in terms of success in the NHL. He won a Stanley Cup? Great. I've won six Stanley Cups, you want to count rings? Who cares, it's just a little pathetic that he carries on."
The latest chapter in the feud came on Wednesday, after the Ducks signed restricted free agent forward Corey Perry to a five-year extension worth $26.63 million. Burke had some choice words about the new salary climate in the NHL after this week's high-profile signings, and blamed Lowe for eliminating the 'second contract' from team-player negotiations.
The long-standing rivalry between Lowe and Burke has also brought up whispers of a conspiracy theory that the two men are hamming it up for added exposure for the league.
"I remember (L.A. Kings general manager) Dean Lombardi last summer saying to me, 'You guys are (just) putting this on, you're not really feeling this way. The NHL likes this stuff, they want to create a little angst in the media and stuff and get some headlines?'" recalled Lowe.
"I said, 'No Dean, this is real.' He was shocked that this was going on but Burkie loves the limelight. He's all bluff and loud and Mac T (head coach Craig MacTavish) said it best - he's like the Wizard of Oz, you pull the curtains away and there's not much substance."
Burke, who joined the Ducks as general manager in 2005, helped build a championship contender in Anaheim that eventually won the Stanley Cup in 2007. That achievement didn't score too high with Lowe, who was quick to point out the other ups and downs of his time with the Ducks, along with the shortcomings of Burke's former team, the Vancouver Canucks.
"Here's a fact - he left (former Canucks GM) Dave Nonis nothing in Vancouver," he explained. "Nothing. He destroyed that team. If it wasn't for Nonis' incredible deals - to con Mike Keenan to get (Roberto) Luongo in Vancouver - that team was taking a nose dive two years ago."
"I mean, that's his M.O., but no one says anything. He goes into Anaheim and he inherits an incredible team. He gets Chris Pronger - not because of our relationship, it just so happened we had five or six teams and targeted their assets. We had Florida, Anaheim, Philadelphia, San Jose and Los Angeles. He just happened to throw enough assets our way to get the player. Kudos to him. He recognizes that at the end of the day, you throw enough assets, you get the best player and you get a good deal. You never know in this business if you're going to win at the end of the day. He could have just decimated the franchise forever. I'll tell you this, they have not much coming. Bobby Ryan has been a questionable pick at No. 2 (overall in 2005), and up until this draft, they tried to move down and did a nice job of trying to replenish their depth chart. They had nothing coming, and that appears to be his M.O."
Lowe even left an intriguing cliffhanger for the radio station's listeners.
"Don't even ask me about Scott Niedermayer, I've already lowered myself in terms of (talking about) how they acquired him," he said. "That's a story for another day, but they were able to bring Niedermayer and Pronger in and they won a Stanley Cup."
In closing, Lowe went so far as to send out a tongue-in-cheek message to his front office nemesis.
"Anaheim has decent players - Corey Perry is a hell of a player," he said. "What I really want to say about his bickering about parity and the salary cap is if you're unhappy about them, then trade him (Perry) our way, we'll be glad to have him."
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Finnish winger Pens next target
Pesonen, 26, had 34 goals and 44 assists in 56 games with Karpat in Finland's SM-Liga and is in line for just a one-year deal. That's mandated by the NHL's collective bargaining agreement, which. requires players his age to get a one-year, two-way deal.
In addition to being the league's current scoring champion, Pesonen was the SM-Liga Rookie of the Year in 2003-04, has been a member of four league-championship squads and was the playoff MVP in 2007.
His size is a bit suspect -- he's listed as 5 foot 11, 179 pounds -- but his speed, skill and instincts make him an intriguing prospect if he can adapt to the smaller rinks and more physical play of North America.
In addition to being the league's current scoring champion, Pesonen was the SM-Liga Rookie of the Year in 2003-04, has been a member of four league-championship squads and was the playoff MVP in 2007.
His size is a bit suspect -- he's listed as 5 foot 11, 179 pounds -- but his speed, skill and instincts make him an intriguing prospect if he can adapt to the smaller rinks and more physical play of North America.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08187/894998-61.stm
meh.
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Pens Sign Matt Cooke
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=2426...=headlines_nhl
Damn new NHL, I don't even know this guy except the few Caps games I saw. Anyone have any insight?
Pittsburgh, PA (Sports Network) - The Pittsburgh Penguins continued to restock their roster Saturday, signing forward Matt Cooke to a two-year contract.
"Matt is a versatile forward that will bring grit, energy and experience to our lineup," said Pens general manager Ray Shero. "He is the type of player that adds depth up front and is capable of providing offense for our hockey club."
"Matt is a versatile forward that will bring grit, energy and experience to our lineup," said Pens general manager Ray Shero. "He is the type of player that adds depth up front and is capable of providing offense for our hockey club."
Damn new NHL, I don't even know this guy except the few Caps games I saw. Anyone have any insight?
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=2426...=headlines_nhl
Damn new NHL, I don't even know this guy except the few Caps games I saw. Anyone have any insight?
Damn new NHL, I don't even know this guy except the few Caps games I saw. Anyone have any insight?
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Originally Posted by TSXforme
Basically Cooke is an agitator along the lines of Ruttuu, but faster and smaller. The only difference between Cooke & Ruttuu is that Ruttuu would stir things up and take care of it himself, whereas Cooke is more likely to stir things up and let other guys "answer the call." I didn't like watching Cooke much when he was in Vancouver as he was a guy who I thought was a cheap player.
Sounds exactly like Ruutu. I think Ruutu fought maybe once or twice this year.
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
Sounds exactly like Ruutu. I think Ruutu fought maybe once or twice this year.
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
Sounds exactly like Ruutu. I think Ruutu fought maybe once or twice this year.
5 fights... i'm surprised at that number.
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Yumchah - some buddies and i got together, we were talking about signings. not sure how i missed it but your hawks signed up a kid i used to play/train with... we always knew even at early teens he would be playing in the nhl. he was light years ahead of everyone his age. i'm curious to see how well he does in the pros.
http://blackhawks.nhl.com/team/app/?...ayerId=8474543
http://blackhawks.nhl.com/team/app/?...ayerId=8474543
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Originally Posted by CleanCL
Yumchah - some buddies and i got together, we were talking about signings. not sure how i missed it but your hawks signed up a kid i used to play/train with... we always knew even at early teens he would be playing in the nhl. he was light years ahead of everyone his age. i'm curious to see how well he does in the pros.
http://blackhawks.nhl.com/team/app/?...ayerId=8474543
http://blackhawks.nhl.com/team/app/?...ayerId=8474543
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Oh, neato. Very interesting...! What's his playing style like...?
it's hard to describe his playing style because the last time i actually i saw him in person was in high school and i never got to any BC games. but from what i watched on tv he led BC to championship. :shrugs: but the one thing that always stood out to me was that he played with a lot of heart. he was never an ego trip and always willing to help out others. seemed like a real good head on his shoulders. not bad considering he was basically told he was nhl material for the longest time. should be promising for your hawks.
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Report: Blackhawks-Wings Jan. 1 at Wrigley Field
From Chicagosports...
It looks like hockey at Wrigley Field is a go.
The Blackhawks and Detroit Red Wings will participate in the NHL's third outdoor game on New Year's Day, the Minneapolis Star-Tribune reported.
An announcement is expected next week before the inaugural Blackhawks Convention at the Chicago Hilton.
According to the report, the game was finally approved last week when NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman met with the Hawks, Cubs and Mayor Richard Daley
The Blackhawks and Detroit Red Wings will participate in the NHL's third outdoor game on New Year's Day, the Minneapolis Star-Tribune reported.
An announcement is expected next week before the inaugural Blackhawks Convention at the Chicago Hilton.
According to the report, the game was finally approved last week when NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman met with the Hawks, Cubs and Mayor Richard Daley
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Nolan Joins Wild...
on to the next one...
I randomly saw the Stanley Cup on Saturday Night!
Story:
I was out on my boat on the local favorite Lake Minnetonka at about 11:30 Saturday night, about to go through a channel where a house is literally 15 feet from the embankment. Well, in their tiny backyard there had to have been 150 people, just PACKED and lots of pictures being taken. Wondering what was going on, my friend asked the party-goers what the occasion was...at that point, about 10 people parted like the Red Sea to reveal Lord Stanley's Cup in all it's glory.
There it was, less than 20 ft. from us. It was beautiful. And most of my friends on the boat (the guys anyway) were HUGE hockey fans, so it was quite a nice surprise for them.
Turns out Mark Hartigan had it...he played college hockey for SCSU here in MN.
...it was a pretty sweet random sighting!
Story:
I was out on my boat on the local favorite Lake Minnetonka at about 11:30 Saturday night, about to go through a channel where a house is literally 15 feet from the embankment. Well, in their tiny backyard there had to have been 150 people, just PACKED and lots of pictures being taken. Wondering what was going on, my friend asked the party-goers what the occasion was...at that point, about 10 people parted like the Red Sea to reveal Lord Stanley's Cup in all it's glory.
There it was, less than 20 ft. from us. It was beautiful. And most of my friends on the boat (the guys anyway) were HUGE hockey fans, so it was quite a nice surprise for them.
Turns out Mark Hartigan had it...he played college hockey for SCSU here in MN.
...it was a pretty sweet random sighting!