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11-02-2007, 02:18 PM
watch him throw his elbow/forearm during his hits, dirty. watch him line people up from across the rink... if that isn't considered taking a run i don't know what is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U7jUbKQYdw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U7jUbKQYdw
11-02-2007, 02:26 PM
chips and smokes, lets go
I'm not saying that all of Sevens' hits were clean, but you can't put all the blame on the hitter. If you skate with your head down, you're going to get rocked. When a player is skating towards you with his head down, its hard NOT to hit him in the head. Players need to protect themselves better out there.
11-02-2007, 02:33 PM
Originally Posted by herbalist
I'm not saying that all of Sevens' hits were clean, but you can't put all the blame on the hitter. If you skate with your head down, you're going to get rocked. When a player is skating towards you with his head down, its hard NOT to hit him in the head. Players need to protect themselves better out there.
11-02-2007, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by fdl
Its funny how time changes perspectives on things.
Maybe, but do you remember any of the outrage like we see today back when Stevens was laying people out? Maybe it was more accepted back then. The only one I remember was Lindros, and he wasn't even penalized for that hit. Although I do agree that he likely intended to injure, He looked like a prick. Although I don't think he was aiming for their heads.
11-02-2007, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CleanCL
the one on kariya was blatantly unnecessary.
Forgot about that one. Ouch.
11-02-2007, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by CleanCL
i agree, you need to be very aware of your surroundings when you have the puck. but the topic is about stevens, and how he is a dirty player. IMO most of those hits in the video appear clean, i mean they were on ESPN, but search through youtube for the ones not televised. the one on kariya was blatantly unnecessary. it's one thing to lay a clean hit, its another to go at someone with everything you have when the other play is completely vulnerable and defenseless. as someone mentioned before... that's intent to cause injury.
I wouldn't classify Stevens as a dirty player. He was great at timing his hits which is a tremendous skill. He's not using his stick or hitting from behind. He is playing within the rules.
11-02-2007, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by herbalist
I'm not saying that all of Sevens' hits were clean, but you can't put all the blame on the hitter. If you skate with your head down, you're going to get rocked. When a player is skating towards you with his head down, its hard NOT to hit him in the head. Players need to protect themselves better out there.
I agree as well. I'm just saying that if those hits occurred in the 2007/2008 season, people would be calling for suspensions on a lot of them. I also believe he wanted to hurt people.
11-02-2007, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fdl
I agree as well. I'm just saying that if those hits occurred in the 2007/2008 season, people would be calling for suspensions on a lot of them. I also believe he wanted to hurt people.
11-02-2007, 06:13 PM
Originally Posted by herbalist
As a player, you need to know who you're on the ice with. Especially if its Scott Stevens or a player like that. In regards to the Kariya hit, it may have been a little late but again, Kariya needs to be aware of who he is on the ice with and should have not been admiring the pass.
I wouldn't classify Stevens as a dirty player. He was great at timing his hits which is a tremendous skill. He's not using his stick or hitting from behind. He is playing within the rules.
I wouldn't classify Stevens as a dirty player. He was great at timing his hits which is a tremendous skill. He's not using his stick or hitting from behind. He is playing within the rules.
11-03-2007, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TSXforme
Seriously??? Averaging 3.1 million a year for a an agitator? Other than his hitting ability, I don't recall much else to his game.
...and he leads the league in hits
Dustin Brown 51 hits
Dion Phaneuf 51 hits
Michael Komisarek 44 hits
11-03-2007, 03:11 PM
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Dustin Brown FTW
Safety Tips
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• Health insurance premiums should be paid and current. If possible, opt for a higher premium/lower co-pay.
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• Never pretend to be invincible.
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• Just don't do anything at all. This can be seen as a sign of aggression.
• Wear clean underwear.
• And finally: Keep your head up, Cookie.
Contrary to popular belief, in the event of a real-life encounter with Dustin Brown, doorways will offer no protection. But there are a few things that you can do to help yourself be prepared for such an event.
• Health insurance premiums should be paid and current. If possible, opt for a higher premium/lower co-pay.
• Avoid wearing the colors orange, teal, blue, desert red, yellow, Motor City red, light red, green, mustard yellow, dark red, light blue, or red.
• Never pretend to be invincible.
• Practice walking on crutches ahead of time. This will ease your transition into recovery.
• Avoid sudden movements around Dustin Brown. This can be seen as a sign of aggression.
• Never make eye contact with Dustin Brown. This can be seen as a sign of aggression.
• Never breathe in the presence of Dustin Brown. This can be seen as a sign of aggression.
• Just don't do anything at all. This can be seen as a sign of aggression.
• Wear clean underwear.
• And finally: Keep your head up, Cookie.
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11-04-2007, 03:27 PM
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NHL Network now on DirecTV
Channel 215 
...it's about time
...it's about time
11-05-2007, 08:45 AM
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so I am contemplating a fantasy hockey move and stuck on what I want to do. I have Afinogenov and I am thinking of dropping him for a returning Hejduk. Afinogenov has been very unproductive this season and hejduk is coming back from a sore back but he atleast has weapons to work with.
11-05-2007, 02:50 PM
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^ That's a toughie. Personally, I'd take the Avalanche player. G'luck.
11-05-2007, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
^ That's a toughie. Personally, I'd take the Avalanche player. G'luck.
11-05-2007, 03:55 PM
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Hejduk, but I suck at Fantasy hockey.
11-05-2007, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TSXforme
I agree...I'd take Hejduk over Afinogenov any day. Afinogenov is so talented, but I've never seen him put it all together on a daily basis. Every time I've picked him, he's always performed below expectations.
Hejduk is playing in a offensively rich team with Sakic, Captain Canada, Stastny, Wojtek, and etc. around him...
11-06-2007, 01:29 PM
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Are there any hockey fans interested in going to the Rangers/Pens game on Friday night?(11/9) I'll be going to the garden for my first time and I have one extra ticket. My wife is going with some friends to Blue Man group on the same night so I have an extra ticket. I'm not looking to sell the ticket just offering to a fellow Aziner who might be interested in watching Crosby take the rangers to school... oh and of course we can talk cars too! If you already have a ticket maybe we can still catch up and talk TL or something during the intermission... I'lll be in section 418 row A (gawd I hope this isn't too damn far) PM me if your interested!
11-06-2007, 01:33 PM
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I think we have some Pens fans around here somewhere 
11-06-2007, 01:36 PM
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^ Mean, too...those Pens fans.
11-06-2007, 02:57 PM
chips and smokes, lets go
Originally Posted by Evader
Are there any hockey fans interested in going to the Rangers/Pens game on Friday night?(11/9) I'll be going to the garden for my first time and I have one extra ticket. My wife is going with some friends to Blue Man group on the same night so I have an extra ticket. I'm not looking to sell the ticket just offering to a fellow Aziner who might be interested in watching Crosby take the rangers to school... oh and of course we can talk cars too! If you already have a ticket maybe we can still catch up and talk TL or something during the intermission... I'lll be in section 418 row A (gawd I hope this isn't too damn far) PM me if your interested!
11-06-2007, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Evader
Mean? Nahhh you must be thinking of the Flyers...whom which btw the pens went 8-0 against last season :o )
11-06-2007, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Evader
Are there any hockey fans interested in going to the Rangers/Pens game on Friday night?(11/9) I'll be going to the garden for my first time and I have one extra ticket. My wife is going with some friends to Blue Man group on the same night so I have an extra ticket. I'm not looking to sell the ticket just offering to a fellow Aziner who might be interested in watching Crosby take the rangers to school... oh and of course we can talk cars too! If you already have a ticket maybe we can still catch up and talk TL or something during the intermission... I'lll be in section 418 row A (gawd I hope this isn't too damn far) PM me if your interested!
Welcome fellow Pans fan..
11-06-2007, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Evader
Mean? Nahhh you must be thinking of the Flyers...whom which btw the pens went 8-0 against last season :o )
Don't mind Yumachacha he's just a bitter Hawks and Bears fan.. He's got alot to be bitter about..
11-06-2007, 07:42 PM
chips and smokes, lets go
Originally Posted by BstonBruin
Bruins have called up Tuukka Rask, can't wait to see him play. Hope Leafs fans are happy with Raycroft
11-07-2007, 08:21 AM
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I just was looking at the tix and the game is tomorrow night and not Friday as I originally thought. I actually have an extra ticket - FREE - for anyone who wants to join me for the Penguins/Rangers game tomorrow night at the garden. PM ME
11-07-2007, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
Don't mind Yumachacha he's just a bitter Hawks and Bears fan.. He's got alot to be bitter about..
11-07-2007, 10:37 AM
The sizzle in the Steak
black is the only way to drink it.
11-07-2007, 10:39 AM
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And I also really like dark chocolate. Darker the better. That's bitter too. 
11-07-2007, 11:08 AM
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I guess I could be considered a Hawks fan too since we were affiliated with them for a few years but it seemed like everytime we got in groove someone else would be called up and so many of the Admirals players were wearing Hawks jerseys at the end of the year. Good for the young kids, not so good for the AHL team competing for division titles Wirtz is dead now so hopefully the future is looking brighter!
11-07-2007, 11:21 AM
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^ 
The Hawks do appear on the up...but, they still need to play with consistency. There's way too much reliance on the two kids right now.
The Hawks do appear on the up...but, they still need to play with consistency. There's way too much reliance on the two kids right now.
11-07-2007, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BstonBruin
Bruins have called up Tuukka Rask, can't wait to see him play. Hope Leafs fans are happy with Raycroft
I hope he plays awesome and takes over #1. That will have to equal another foot out the door for Ferguson.
11-07-2007, 11:44 AM
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^ Seriously...Why did the Leafs make that trade in the first place? I never understood why they would give up such a good prospect so early?
That's like the Hawks giving up Toews without even seeing what he could do.
That's like the Hawks giving up Toews without even seeing what he could do.
11-07-2007, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
^ Seriously...Why did the Leafs make that trade in the first place? I never understood why they would give up such a good prospect so early?
That's like the Hawks giving up Toews without even seeing what he could do.
That's like the Hawks giving up Toews without even seeing what he could do.
Because not one person running the team has a clue what they're doing. Ferguson has made mistake after mistake. They already have 40 mill against the cap for next season so its not as if they'll have any flexibility either.
No that I'm paying any attention.