THE 2007 College Football Thread
#1043
AP
1. Missouri (45) 11-1 1,604
2. West Virginia (20) 10-1 1,574
3. Ohio State 11-1 1,469
4. Georgia 10-2 1,354
5. LSU 10-2 1,269
6. Virginia Tech 10-2 1,266
7. Kansas 11-1 1,217
8. USC 9-2 1,212
9. Oklahoma 10-2 1,191
10. Florida 9-3 1,029
USA
1. West Virginia (37) 10-1 1,467
2. Missouri (17) 11-1 1,454
3. Ohio State (6) 11-1 1,383
4. Georgia 10-2 1,232
5. Kansas 11-1 1,161
5. Virginia Tech 10-2 1,161
7. LSU 10-2 1,134
8. Oklahoma 10-2 1,126
9. USC 9-2 1,073
10. Hawaii 11-0 958
1. Missouri (45) 11-1 1,604
2. West Virginia (20) 10-1 1,574
3. Ohio State 11-1 1,469
4. Georgia 10-2 1,354
5. LSU 10-2 1,269
6. Virginia Tech 10-2 1,266
7. Kansas 11-1 1,217
8. USC 9-2 1,212
9. Oklahoma 10-2 1,191
10. Florida 9-3 1,029
USA
1. West Virginia (37) 10-1 1,467
2. Missouri (17) 11-1 1,454
3. Ohio State (6) 11-1 1,383
4. Georgia 10-2 1,232
5. Kansas 11-1 1,161
5. Virginia Tech 10-2 1,161
7. LSU 10-2 1,134
8. Oklahoma 10-2 1,126
9. USC 9-2 1,073
10. Hawaii 11-0 958
#1044
So what are your picks for:
National Championship
Mizz WVA
(Mizz wins)
Orange
UGA VT
(UGA Wins)
Fiesta
KU ASU
(KU wins)
Rose
OSU USC
(USC Wins)
Sugar
LSU Haw
(LSU Wins)
National Championship
Mizz WVA
(Mizz wins)
Orange
UGA VT
(UGA Wins)
Fiesta
KU ASU
(KU wins)
Rose
OSU USC
(USC Wins)
Sugar
LSU Haw
(LSU Wins)
#1045
No He Can't
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Originally Posted by coconut
lulz, FSU has gotz to have like teh fattest kicker evar~~!
We were all laughing our ass off as they set up for that FG. He isn't consistent from under 40 so I had no idea why Bobby let him that try that, but obviously it paid off.
#1046
BCS Standings
1. Missouri 11-1
2. West Virginia 10-1
3. Ohio State 11-1
4. Georgia 10-2
5. Kansas 11-1
6. Virginia Tech 10-2
7. LSU 10-2
8. USC 9-2
9. Oklahoma 10-2
10. Florida 9-3
11. Boston College 10-2
12. Hawaii 11-0
13. Arizona State 9-2
14. Tennessee 9-3
15. Illinois 9-3
16. Clemson 9-3
17. Oregon 8-3
18. Wisconsin 9-3
19. BYU 9-2
20. Texas 9-3
21. South Florida 9-3
22. Virginia 9-3
23. Cincinnati 9-3
24. Auburn 8-4
25. Boise State 10-2
1. Missouri 11-1
2. West Virginia 10-1
3. Ohio State 11-1
4. Georgia 10-2
5. Kansas 11-1
6. Virginia Tech 10-2
7. LSU 10-2
8. USC 9-2
9. Oklahoma 10-2
10. Florida 9-3
11. Boston College 10-2
12. Hawaii 11-0
13. Arizona State 9-2
14. Tennessee 9-3
15. Illinois 9-3
16. Clemson 9-3
17. Oregon 8-3
18. Wisconsin 9-3
19. BYU 9-2
20. Texas 9-3
21. South Florida 9-3
22. Virginia 9-3
23. Cincinnati 9-3
24. Auburn 8-4
25. Boise State 10-2
#1053
Originally Posted by achenator
Lsu is behind VT in the bcs who they beat, that is shitty. They have the same record.
#1055
Bent = #1
Thread Starter
I think Tebow should win the Heisman, but I have a feeling the votes in the South will be split between Tebow & McFadden. If Mizzou wins big > OU in the Big 12 game then Chase Daniels has a good shot at winning it.
#1057
Which team tops two-loss heap?
By Brad Edwards
Special to ESPN.com
(Archive)
Insider
Updated: November 25, 2007, 6:22 PM ET
Perhaps for the first time all season, the national championship race can be explained very simply.
If No. 1 Missouri (vs. Oklahoma) and No. 2 West Virginia (vs. Pittsburgh) both win on Saturday, they will play each other for the BCS title. If one of them loses, No. 3 Ohio State will slide into the national championship game. If Missouri and West Virginia both lose, a two-loss team will probably meet the Buckeyes in New Orleans for all the marbles.
It seems unlikely that West Virginia will lose at home against Pitt, but if it happens, choosing which two-loss team belongs in the national title game will be a difficult assignment for the voters.
No. 4 Georgia is the highest-ranked twice-beaten team in the standings this week, but that might change next week if it matters who's atop the two-loss heap. Because the Bulldogs didn't win their division of the SEC, it's doubtful voters would put them into a BCS championship slot, especially if another two-loss team (LSU) emerges as the conference champion.
Even though LSU is currently ranked behind Virginia Tech, the Tigers would likely move ahead of the Hokies (only if the No. 2 BCS spot is open) because of their 41-point win against them in September. If Tennessee wins the SEC, Tech might be able to sneak into the picture, assuming it wins the ACC title.
Oklahoma could also make a case after knocking off top-ranked Missouri. USC, however, seems to have way too far to climb with only a game against unranked UCLA left on the schedule.
Obviously, there's a one-loss team that hasn't yet been mentioned. Kansas sits at No. 5 in this week's BCS standings, but the Jayhawks are also a long shot, since they have neither a division title nor a win over any team currently ranked in the top 25.
My best guess: If Missouri and West Virginia both lose on Saturday, LSU backs into the title game with a win in the SEC championship.
The At-Large Spots
In the clubhouse at 10-2 without a conference title, Georgia seems to be a lock to finish either third or fourth in the BCS standings, which would assure the Bulldogs of receiving one of the four at-large bids to the BCS.
If Ohio State moves into the national title game, that will vacate the Big Ten champion's spot in the Rose Bowl, and with Illinois likely to become eligible (if either Tennessee or Boston College loses on Saturday) for an at-large spot, the Big Ten could unexpectedly get a second team into the BCS.
If Arizona State can beat Arizona this week and finish 10-2, the Sun Devils will certainly be an attractive option for the hometown Fiesta Bowl. Kansas should also receive strong consideration from the Fiesta.
And then there's Hawaii. The big win over Boise State vaulted the Warriors three spots into the coveted No. 12 position, which means they should earn an automatic bid to the BCS by closing the season with a win over Washington. The only scenario that could potentially push Hawaii back out of the top 12 would be for BC, Tennessee and Arizona State all to win this weekend.
Now let's explore the possibilities for the BCS matchups. For the sake of simplifying this process, we'll assume there are no upsets on Saturday. The only variable is the Big 12 championship game.
Projected BCS Matchups (If Missouri beats Oklahoma)
Allstate BCS National Championship Game
Missouri (Big 12 champ) vs. West Virginia (Big East champ)
The Rose Bowl Game presented by Citi
Ohio State (Big Ten champ) vs. USC (Pac-10 champ)
FedEx Orange Bowl
Virginia Tech (ACC champ) vs. Georgia (at-large)
Tostitos Fiesta Bowl
Kansas (at-large) vs. Arizona State (at-large)
Allstate Sugar Bowl
LSU (SEC champ) vs. Hawaii (at-large)
Projected BCS Matchups (If Oklahoma beats Missouri)
Allstate BCS National Championship Game
West Virginia (Big East champ) vs. Ohio State (Big Ten champ)
The Rose Bowl Game presented by Citi
USC (Pac-10 champ) vs. Illinois (at-large)
FedEx Orange Bowl
Virginia Tech (ACC champ) vs. Georgia (at-large)
Tostitos Fiesta Bowl
Oklahoma (Big 12 champ) vs. Arizona State (at-large)
Allstate Sugar Bowl
LSU (SEC champ) vs. Hawaii (at-large)
It seemed for the past four weeks that the Big 12 was certain to get a second team into the BCS, but the loss by Texas presents a scenario in which an Oklahoma victory in the conference title game could cost the Big 12 a BCS at-large spot. If the Rose Bowl has to replace Ohio State and chooses Illinois to do so, the lone Big 12 hope might be for the Fiesta to set up a "conference game" between Oklahoma and Kansas, which isn't as ridiculous as it sounds since the two didn't meet in the regular season.
After all, ridiculous seems to be all the rage in college football this year.
By Brad Edwards
Special to ESPN.com
(Archive)
Insider
Updated: November 25, 2007, 6:22 PM ET
Perhaps for the first time all season, the national championship race can be explained very simply.
If No. 1 Missouri (vs. Oklahoma) and No. 2 West Virginia (vs. Pittsburgh) both win on Saturday, they will play each other for the BCS title. If one of them loses, No. 3 Ohio State will slide into the national championship game. If Missouri and West Virginia both lose, a two-loss team will probably meet the Buckeyes in New Orleans for all the marbles.
It seems unlikely that West Virginia will lose at home against Pitt, but if it happens, choosing which two-loss team belongs in the national title game will be a difficult assignment for the voters.
No. 4 Georgia is the highest-ranked twice-beaten team in the standings this week, but that might change next week if it matters who's atop the two-loss heap. Because the Bulldogs didn't win their division of the SEC, it's doubtful voters would put them into a BCS championship slot, especially if another two-loss team (LSU) emerges as the conference champion.
Even though LSU is currently ranked behind Virginia Tech, the Tigers would likely move ahead of the Hokies (only if the No. 2 BCS spot is open) because of their 41-point win against them in September. If Tennessee wins the SEC, Tech might be able to sneak into the picture, assuming it wins the ACC title.
Oklahoma could also make a case after knocking off top-ranked Missouri. USC, however, seems to have way too far to climb with only a game against unranked UCLA left on the schedule.
Obviously, there's a one-loss team that hasn't yet been mentioned. Kansas sits at No. 5 in this week's BCS standings, but the Jayhawks are also a long shot, since they have neither a division title nor a win over any team currently ranked in the top 25.
My best guess: If Missouri and West Virginia both lose on Saturday, LSU backs into the title game with a win in the SEC championship.
The At-Large Spots
In the clubhouse at 10-2 without a conference title, Georgia seems to be a lock to finish either third or fourth in the BCS standings, which would assure the Bulldogs of receiving one of the four at-large bids to the BCS.
If Ohio State moves into the national title game, that will vacate the Big Ten champion's spot in the Rose Bowl, and with Illinois likely to become eligible (if either Tennessee or Boston College loses on Saturday) for an at-large spot, the Big Ten could unexpectedly get a second team into the BCS.
If Arizona State can beat Arizona this week and finish 10-2, the Sun Devils will certainly be an attractive option for the hometown Fiesta Bowl. Kansas should also receive strong consideration from the Fiesta.
And then there's Hawaii. The big win over Boise State vaulted the Warriors three spots into the coveted No. 12 position, which means they should earn an automatic bid to the BCS by closing the season with a win over Washington. The only scenario that could potentially push Hawaii back out of the top 12 would be for BC, Tennessee and Arizona State all to win this weekend.
Now let's explore the possibilities for the BCS matchups. For the sake of simplifying this process, we'll assume there are no upsets on Saturday. The only variable is the Big 12 championship game.
Projected BCS Matchups (If Missouri beats Oklahoma)
Allstate BCS National Championship Game
Missouri (Big 12 champ) vs. West Virginia (Big East champ)
The Rose Bowl Game presented by Citi
Ohio State (Big Ten champ) vs. USC (Pac-10 champ)
FedEx Orange Bowl
Virginia Tech (ACC champ) vs. Georgia (at-large)
Tostitos Fiesta Bowl
Kansas (at-large) vs. Arizona State (at-large)
Allstate Sugar Bowl
LSU (SEC champ) vs. Hawaii (at-large)
Projected BCS Matchups (If Oklahoma beats Missouri)
Allstate BCS National Championship Game
West Virginia (Big East champ) vs. Ohio State (Big Ten champ)
The Rose Bowl Game presented by Citi
USC (Pac-10 champ) vs. Illinois (at-large)
FedEx Orange Bowl
Virginia Tech (ACC champ) vs. Georgia (at-large)
Tostitos Fiesta Bowl
Oklahoma (Big 12 champ) vs. Arizona State (at-large)
Allstate Sugar Bowl
LSU (SEC champ) vs. Hawaii (at-large)
It seemed for the past four weeks that the Big 12 was certain to get a second team into the BCS, but the loss by Texas presents a scenario in which an Oklahoma victory in the conference title game could cost the Big 12 a BCS at-large spot. If the Rose Bowl has to replace Ohio State and chooses Illinois to do so, the lone Big 12 hope might be for the Fiesta to set up a "conference game" between Oklahoma and Kansas, which isn't as ridiculous as it sounds since the two didn't meet in the regular season.
After all, ridiculous seems to be all the rage in college football this year.
#1060
Bent = #1
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by pgatour1
Sucks that UGA had to lose some stupid games early on, they are easily playing like one of the best, if not the best team the last month or so.
They are the hottest team right now.. but so was California when they started the season and look at them now
#1061
Originally Posted by hornyleprechaun
They are the hottest team right now.. but so was California when they started the season and look at them now
Stupid loss to SC this year, and Tennessee was just a really poorly played game
#1062
Bent = #1
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by pgatour1
Yeah, but you play the bowl games at the end of the year...
Stupid loss to SC this year, and Tennessee was just a really poorly played game
Stupid loss to SC this year, and Tennessee was just a really poorly played game
I know. Ever since the Florida game they have been fired up. I just can't imagine a 2 loss team winning the NC
#1063
Карты убийцы
If Mizzu and WVU lose, UGA and NoShine could play for the NC against OSU.
Something has to be wrong with this system if a team doesn't win its conference or even its division, but could play for the NC.
Something has to be wrong with this system if a team doesn't win its conference or even its division, but could play for the NC.
#1064
Bent = #1
Thread Starter
UGA won't play for the NC.. First off I don't think WVU will lose.
If both WVU & Mizzou lose then it would either be OU or LSU vs. Ohio State. The voters won't put a team that doesn't win their conference into the NC game.. especially when these teams have 2 losses.
If both WVU & Mizzou lose then it would either be OU or LSU vs. Ohio State. The voters won't put a team that doesn't win their conference into the NC game.. especially when these teams have 2 losses.
#1065
There should be a separate ranking system for SEC teams. Its shitty that they have to beat themselves up all year, only to hurt their ranking. Ha.
On the other hand its retarded, that a 16-12 loss in Week 2 is what is keeping the (currently) best team in the SEC (and highest BCS ranked) from playing in the SEC Championship. I understand thats how it works, but the true two best teams in the SEC are LSU and UGA, they should be playing.
In terms of the NC, WV isn't going to lose against Pitt
On the other hand its retarded, that a 16-12 loss in Week 2 is what is keeping the (currently) best team in the SEC (and highest BCS ranked) from playing in the SEC Championship. I understand thats how it works, but the true two best teams in the SEC are LSU and UGA, they should be playing.
In terms of the NC, WV isn't going to lose against Pitt
#1066
Suzuka Master
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Originally Posted by hornyleprechaun
I think it will be Ohio State vs. WVU in the championship. I think OU knocks off Mizzou again
OU may have got the win in Norman (barely), but MU won't lose to them in San Antonio
(OU's Home Record since 1999: 53-2 - best in the country over that time)
and btw, MU>WV
#1067
Bent = #1
Thread Starter
O please I took KState straight up against Mizzou
$10 parlay you have MU > OU & > WVU (or whoever is in the NC game). If MU loses one of those games you give me $10.. if they win both I'll give you $20. You just sound so confident
$10 parlay you have MU > OU & > WVU (or whoever is in the NC game). If MU loses one of those games you give me $10.. if they win both I'll give you $20. You just sound so confident
#1068
Suzuka Master
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Originally Posted by hornyleprechaun
O please I took KState straight up against Mizzou
$10 parlay you have MU > OU & > WVU (or whoever is in the NC game). If MU loses one of those games you give me $10.. if they win both I'll give you $20. You just sound so confident
$10 parlay you have MU > OU & > WVU (or whoever is in the NC game). If MU loses one of those games you give me $10.. if they win both I'll give you $20. You just sound so confident
...and i know OU beat MU 7 games ago, but it seems strange that the #1 team in the country is a 3-pt dog to the #9 team ...especially on a neutral field.
#1069
Bent = #1
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by paz840
lol, you're on!
...and i know OU beat MU 7 games ago, but it seems strange that the #1 team in the country is a 3-pt dog to the #9 team
...and i know OU beat MU 7 games ago, but it seems strange that the #1 team in the country is a 3-pt dog to the #9 team
Mizzou is also playing better than OU right now, and in a neutral site. So Mizzou has to win both games for you to receive $20. If they lose 1 of the 2 I get $10
#1070
Suzuka Master
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Originally Posted by hornyleprechaun
Mizzou is also playing better than OU right now, and in a neutral site. So Mizzou has to win both games for you to receive $20. If they lose 1 of the 2 I get $10
j/k, i get it!
MU National Champs
#1075
Bent = #1
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by gatrhumpy
We would kill Illinois.
Hopefully. It'd be good for tv because the media will hype up Zook vs. Meyer/Florida.
#1077
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Originally Posted by hornyleprechaun
Aw come on Illinois fans don't you want Illinois vs. Florida in the Capital One Bowl? Zook vs. Meyer