cazzy

With the exception of the DET and MIN win, all their games have been won with few points scored. They have proved they can win without scoring big, just like the 2000 Ravens.

I think both of those games will be close. The CAR vs ATL game will probably produce one of the teams in the NFC Championship game. I hate the Girls, so that would be awesome to see them lose to the G-Men. Dallas has a solid D, so Eli could be in for a ruff day.

cazzy

Very true...but has Favre's luck run out against the lowly Bears. I would say

Yumcha

Lowly?

Are you still bitter that the ChiSox beat the Astros hence why you hafta call Da Bears lowly?

They may not have the greatest offense but all they need are a few for that D to protect the lead. But, again, this is Favre we're talking about and he's torched Chicago plenty in his career already...

cazzy

No, I was not upset. Actually I hope the Cubbies win the series next year so we can end all of these curses. Two years in a row that a team that hasn't won since the early 1900's won the series. Remind me again what year it was the ChiSox last won the series.

Lowly...I hit a nerve I see. I guess it is just habit referring to them as the Lowly Bears. This year's team is great though! I hope they can maintain momentum because I would be happy to see them beat Indy if both teams make it to the Big Game.

Scottman111

ha, I think we could spend an hour doing this with any Bengals draft picks in the past, QB or not. Dan Wilkinson comes to mind...and Ki-Jana Carter

teg_to_bike

I hope Favre like the taste of grass. That's all he's getting for lunch on Sunday.

Yumcha

Don't forget dirt. Dirt's good too.

Yumcha

Question for the football nerds:

Why is it that the shotgun formation is not used more often? I always get the sense that if a QB starts from that, he always seems to pass better? As well, doesn't it allow for better protection if the O-line is not that great since the QB is already back and does not need to do his 7-step (or whatever) drop?

gocubsgo55

i believe it is because 90% of the time, the shotgun formation aim at a pass play. dropping under center allows 2 tailbacks to show the threat of a run.

Oh, and I am worried about Bears-Packers. They really need this win; its easy and their magic number is only 4. GO BEARS

peacefrog

Yeah...what he said, look at Manning, he barks orders until there is like 2 seconds on the play clock and they start from center most of the time. Coming right out in shotgun spreads the coverage out, and its usually done when you have to pass or will run a draw to set up a better punting situation.

Doom878

When it's an automatic pass play the defense tends to blitz so it can be an easy sack. Also running the ball in shotgun formation is very difficult.

Yumcha

Thanks for the info guys...
I'm not disputing what you guys are saying about the inability to run...but, what's the difference if you line up two tailbacks with the QB in shotgun? Why does that make it hard to run?

Scottman111

Most defense's just basically assume since your in shotgun your throwing. It's not that you don't see runs from the shotgun, just chances are most of the time it will be a third down play so it's probably smarter to throw than run...and the defense knows that so they adjust accordingly. Thats how I figure it

Scottman111

Now that I think about it, when is the last time you guys have seen a direct snap to a RB? I can't even remember. I see a lot of shotgun draw plays, etc but hardly ever direct snaps

Doom878

My Dolphins ran 2 of those last week. One was by Ricky Williams for a 4 yrd loss and the other was to Ronnie Brown for I think a 17 yrd gain. But then he fumbled.

If you're in a shotgun the QB most likely hands to the RB right next to him. Well the RB has no momentum and he's already several yards back where when the QB is up on the Center, the RB has space to pick up speed. Of course it's not impossible to run from this formation. The RB has a wider vision of holes opening up. However, with the speed of the NFL it's very difficult. I'm sure an NFL insider can also comment on line blocking schemes and play calling but this is my theory from my years of watching NFL.

Yumcha

Da Bears beat GB...! The season is considered a success now, no matter what happens.

fsttyms1

Now if only the bears had a offense.

Yumcha

Orton's stat: 6-of-17 for 68 yards.



An ever bigger is that this is only Favre's SECOND loss at Soldier field. He's 11-2 now against Da Bears in Chicago!

Whiskers

Sing it with me boys..... G.I.A.N.T.S.

gocubsgo55

...they'd be competing with Indianapolis for the best record in the NFL. The offense was, put simply, absolutely pathetic. Too many dumb mistakes and poor play calls to name. Why the pass plays on the first possession? If you're going to pass, why not to your best Receiver? Kyle Orton; please, stop throwing of the back foot.

This was a very difficult win for them. Once again, it was all Defense+Special Teams. There is going to come a time when this football team is going to hit a brick wall. The Magic Number is 3, with 4 to go. I can't see them winning next week the way the offense played today. The Vikes have a decently easy schedule going the rest of the way. It's really sad how this unbelieveable Defense is being wasted by one of the worst offenses in the league.

Hey, they're 9-3 though, and finding ways to win. I'm just saying, come playoff time (I don't want to jinx anything, im used to far too much in terms of curses), this team needs to up its offensive production.

CL Platano

I can't believe my Boys lost to the Giants they had the game in the 2nd half but that horrible play calling killed them..4 minutes left 3 and 1 and play action pass to no one and then don't go for it on 4 and 1..Horrible game.. Also the Bills suck too, just thought I add that and the Bengals sleeper team of the year.

fsttyms1

Whiskers

mantis23

drew bledsoe can suck it

CL Platano

lol..i knew i was gonna hear it from you, I was saying to myself I'm not going on AZ tonight

Scottman111

Oh man, I was driving back from vacation in Tennessee today and couldn't watch any games, except for the Bengals, which I had to listen to on the radio I'm pissed but o'well we the Steelers, and the Broncos got owned

And judging by Whiskers post I guess the Giants won or somethin'???

Scottman111

I just saw the video on TV of the guy at the Lions game that was running around with the "Fire Matt Millen" sign (or whatever it said).



Then he got by security, ha

Doom878

4th and 1 and not going for it. Typical conservative Parcells.

How bout them Dolphins. Down 21-0, 23-3, and then WON?!?!?!?!? I hope someone here started Chambers.

Jonesi

It was a good game.. I wouldn't say The whole game did come down to the last series..


But if you watch the game, you'll see you could say the Steelers themselves many times.

Whiskers

Life is rough....

Doom878

to myself for not starting Larry Johnson again instead of weak ass Steven Jackson.

Dfreder2

We're not going anywhere.

Yes, we did beat Green Bay, arch rivals. And we have had a good run.

But we have no offense to speak of.

We'll make the playoffs, but it will be one and out.

Sdog2012

Can you believe how hard they tackled him? it was like he was waving a gun around!

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

The 'Skins defense owned Fitzpatrick all day long. I watched the entire game and after the Rams' first drive I felt sorry for the poor guy.

Sdog2012

i have Houshmanzadeh, Ward and Chambers all on my team those 3 guys pretty much put me in the playoffs in my league

synth19

werd. The bears offense is just plain pathetic. BUT... at least they're not turning it over too much. Relying on the defense so much makes me nervous.

Whiskers

Eagles =

CL Platano

Seriously what the hell was that last night

wstevens

Yeah, they really sucked balls last night.

At least their uniforms are better than those faggoty red disasters that he G-Pussy's were wearing.

cazzy

Who loses by 42 points and doesn't score?