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12-12-2005, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by andyjl
i need to pick up another receiver for my team. Right now kevin curtis just isn't producing now that fitzpatrick is the QB, but there aren't many options out there right now. I'm thinking either I should pick up antwaan randle El (but i'm not sure if he's a starting receiver now or he just does kick returns), derrick mason, courtney roby, quincy morgan, can't think of anyone else. are there any better options out there?
Also about the RB situation, i have steven jackson but the past 2 or 3 weeks he just has not been producing, so for week 15 (steven jackson vs. philly) i am contemplating whether i should bench him and start ricky williams (vs jets) , fred taylor (vs. SF), or ryan moats (vs st. louis). What do you think. My gut says to just stick with jackson though because philly has been getting worse with the rush defense.
Also about the RB situation, i have steven jackson but the past 2 or 3 weeks he just has not been producing, so for week 15 (steven jackson vs. philly) i am contemplating whether i should bench him and start ricky williams (vs jets) , fred taylor (vs. SF), or ryan moats (vs st. louis). What do you think. My gut says to just stick with jackson though because philly has been getting worse with the rush defense.
12-13-2005, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by teg_to_bike
I guess dating that Packers fan this weekend was a bad idea. I jinxed the team!
i have been fucking favre's estranged mistress for over a year now. she can be a packers fan all she wants, but i am taking full credit for the packers sucking ass this year, and the bears stepping it up. poor brett
go bears, try not to look like joliet catholic against morris again next week
12-13-2005, 12:08 AM
#925
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Interesting stats. Drew Bledsoe is 5th all time in completions. Ronde Barber is the only NFL corner to have 20 sacks and 20 picks. HofF bound?
Oh and I won my pool again. Thanks for running up the score Atl!!!!
Oh and I won my pool again. Thanks for running up the score Atl!!!!
12-14-2005, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Doom878
STick with your star. Jackson has to be due. As a Miami fan Ricky's not a great fantasy back anyways.
i still need a wide receiver..any suggestions? what about stokely?
12-14-2005, 03:45 PM
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Well, looks like Collins is back at QB for the Raidahs...So, whoever has him in their draft should be happy? 
12-14-2005, 04:15 PM
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Well, this is news to me...and rather interesting...
Always thought McNabb was rather worshipped in Philly...
(and if they don't want him, I know Chicagoans would give their left nut for him!)
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McNabb answers critical column from NAACP leader
ESPN.com news services
Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb has expressed surprise and disappointment after hearing of racially-charged criticism made by Philadelphia NAACP president J. Whyatt Mondesire in a Nov. 27 column in the Philadelphia Sun.
Mondesire, the Sun's publisher and editor, wrote that McNabb is a "mediocre talent" who tries to disguise his ineffectiveness behind "some concocted reasoning" that African-American quarterbacks who scramble are somehow lesser "field generals."
McNabb, who endured Rush Limbaugh's comments just a few years earlier, was baffled by Mondesire remarks.
"Especially being the same color I am," McNabb told the Philadelphia Inquirer. "Obviously if it's someone else who is not African-American, it's racism. But when someone of the same race talks about you because you're selling out because you're not running the ball, it goes back to what are we really talking about here?
"If you talk about my play, that's one thing. When you talk about my race, now we've got problems. If you're trying to make a name off my name, again, I hope your closet is clean because something is going to come out about you ... I always thought the NAACP supported African-Americans and didn't talk bad about them. Now you learn a little bit more."
Mondesire also claimed that McNabb's "failure as a team leader off the field" led to the Terrell Owens situation. If McNabb "had the courage to offer only a tiny fraction" of his bonus to Owens and running back Brian Westbrook, Mondesire wrote, the "media circus" could have been avoided.
"When you go deep into that, or say I didn't stick up for someone, or why didn't I give a little bit of my money to someone else who is making money, you try to find an answer for that," McNabb told the Phialdelphia Daily News. "There's no answer that I've found."
McNabb plans to move on from Mondesire's column, but for the first time in his Eagles' tenure, McNabb has to answer questions about locker room leadership.
"This season was a tough season from the beginning," McNabb told the Inquirer. "People may blame it on just one particular person, but ... it's something that kind of spread in the locker room.
"There's never been a question of me losing the locker room until this year. If I've lost the locker room, then the question goes up why. Is it because now people are starting to look at me sideways for what I've been doing, or what I make, or whatever he had a problem with? That's the question I'm trying to get answered: If I've lost the locker room or not? No answer has come my way.
"But I do know the main reason we're not a good team is because we don't play as a team. Everybody has to realize that in order for us to get back to the Super Bowl and win it, we all have to play well together. You never heard anything like this coming from the Indianapolis Colts. You never heard anything like this coming from the New England Patriots. Baltimore, when they won the Super Bowl, they never had anything like this."
Always thought McNabb was rather worshipped in Philly...
(and if they don't want him, I know Chicagoans would give their left nut for him!)
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McNabb answers critical column from NAACP leader
ESPN.com news services
Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb has expressed surprise and disappointment after hearing of racially-charged criticism made by Philadelphia NAACP president J. Whyatt Mondesire in a Nov. 27 column in the Philadelphia Sun.
Mondesire, the Sun's publisher and editor, wrote that McNabb is a "mediocre talent" who tries to disguise his ineffectiveness behind "some concocted reasoning" that African-American quarterbacks who scramble are somehow lesser "field generals."
McNabb, who endured Rush Limbaugh's comments just a few years earlier, was baffled by Mondesire remarks.
"Especially being the same color I am," McNabb told the Philadelphia Inquirer. "Obviously if it's someone else who is not African-American, it's racism. But when someone of the same race talks about you because you're selling out because you're not running the ball, it goes back to what are we really talking about here?
"If you talk about my play, that's one thing. When you talk about my race, now we've got problems. If you're trying to make a name off my name, again, I hope your closet is clean because something is going to come out about you ... I always thought the NAACP supported African-Americans and didn't talk bad about them. Now you learn a little bit more."
Mondesire also claimed that McNabb's "failure as a team leader off the field" led to the Terrell Owens situation. If McNabb "had the courage to offer only a tiny fraction" of his bonus to Owens and running back Brian Westbrook, Mondesire wrote, the "media circus" could have been avoided.
"When you go deep into that, or say I didn't stick up for someone, or why didn't I give a little bit of my money to someone else who is making money, you try to find an answer for that," McNabb told the Phialdelphia Daily News. "There's no answer that I've found."
McNabb plans to move on from Mondesire's column, but for the first time in his Eagles' tenure, McNabb has to answer questions about locker room leadership.
"This season was a tough season from the beginning," McNabb told the Inquirer. "People may blame it on just one particular person, but ... it's something that kind of spread in the locker room.
"There's never been a question of me losing the locker room until this year. If I've lost the locker room, then the question goes up why. Is it because now people are starting to look at me sideways for what I've been doing, or what I make, or whatever he had a problem with? That's the question I'm trying to get answered: If I've lost the locker room or not? No answer has come my way.
"But I do know the main reason we're not a good team is because we don't play as a team. Everybody has to realize that in order for us to get back to the Super Bowl and win it, we all have to play well together. You never heard anything like this coming from the Indianapolis Colts. You never heard anything like this coming from the New England Patriots. Baltimore, when they won the Super Bowl, they never had anything like this."
12-14-2005, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Well, this is news to me...and rather interesting...
Always thought McNabb was rather worshipped in Philly...
(and if they don't want him, I know Chicagoans would give their left nut for him!)
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McNabb answers critical column from NAACP leader
Always thought McNabb was rather worshipped in Philly...
(and if they don't want him, I know Chicagoans would give their left nut for him!)
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McNabb answers critical column from NAACP leader
WTF!
He always handles it well though. Its like they are provoking him to explode and make ignorant remarks. What a dumb thing to say on the part of the NAACP president.
12-14-2005, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mantis23
Damn McNabb gets criticized like a mofo.
WTF!
He always handles it well though. Its like they are provoking him to explode and make ignorant remarks. What a dumb thing to say on the part of the NAACP president.
WTF!
He always handles it well though. Its like they are provoking him to explode and make ignorant remarks. What a dumb thing to say on the part of the NAACP president.
And he's had a year to forget for a lifetime...bad record, drama from TO, season-ending injury, and now questions about his leadership and skills (which I think are some of the best in the NFL)...
12-14-2005, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
But my opponent is 5-1 over the last 6 weeks
12-14-2005, 09:57 PM
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Donovan F. McNabb would make the Chicago Bears the NFC Champions, by far. Hell, if they excecuted well, they might even have a shot at Indy IF and only IF they played solid and close to perfect. A bad game for Indy is a good to great game anywhere else.
12-15-2005, 11:59 AM
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ok....
i made my picks all by myself this week...
here they are,,
tampa bay @ new england
kansas city @ ny giants
denver @buffalo
arizona @ houston
carolina @new orleans
dallas @ washington
ny jets @ miami
pitssburgh @ minnesota
san diego @ indianapolis
seattle @ tennessee
san fran @ jacksonville
cincinnati @ detroit
cleveland @ oakland
philadelphia @ st louis
atlanta @ chicago
mon nighter
green bay @ baltimore total points 27
k...dallas @washington
and
cleveland @ oakland were really tough for me...
please discuss...
thanx
i made my picks all by myself this week...
here they are,,
tampa bay @ new england
kansas city @ ny giants
denver @buffalo
arizona @ houston
carolina @new orleans
dallas @ washington
ny jets @ miami
pitssburgh @ minnesota
san diego @ indianapolis
seattle @ tennessee
san fran @ jacksonville
cincinnati @ detroit
cleveland @ oakland
philadelphia @ st louis
atlanta @ chicago
mon nighter
green bay @ baltimore total points 27
k...dallas @washington
and
cleveland @ oakland were really tough for me...
please discuss...
thanx
12-15-2005, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrea25
ok....
i made my picks all by myself this week...
here they are,,
tampa bay @ new england
kansas city @ ny giants
denver @buffalo
arizona @ houston
carolina @new orleans
dallas @ washington
ny jets @ miami
pitssburgh @ minnesota
san diego @ indianapolis
seattle @ tennessee
san fran @ jacksonville
cincinnati @ detroit
cleveland @ oakland
philadelphia @ st louis
atlanta @ chicago
mon nighter
green bay @ baltimore total points 27
k...dallas @washington
and
cleveland @ oakland were really tough for me...
please discuss...
thanx
i made my picks all by myself this week...
here they are,,
tampa bay @ new england
kansas city @ ny giants
denver @buffalo
arizona @ houston
carolina @new orleans
dallas @ washington
ny jets @ miami
pitssburgh @ minnesota
san diego @ indianapolis
seattle @ tennessee
san fran @ jacksonville
cincinnati @ detroit
cleveland @ oakland
philadelphia @ st louis
atlanta @ chicago
mon nighter
green bay @ baltimore total points 27
k...dallas @washington
and
cleveland @ oakland were really tough for me...
please discuss...
thanx
NE
NYG
DEN
ARI
CAR
DAL
MIA
PIT (
)SD (
)SEA
JAC
CIN
CLE
PHI
CHI
GB
12-15-2005, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gocubsgo55
Donovan F. McNabb would make the Chicago Bears the NFC Champions, by far....
12-15-2005, 01:03 PM
#942
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Originally Posted by bent09
Atleast I hope so. He has been clutch this year! Funny thing is Brooks is not getting the turn overs like I am used to.
12-15-2005, 02:42 PM
#943
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Darrel Russell died
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2260155
4 Vikings were charged for the boat party. Culpepper, Smoot, McKinnie, and Moe Williams.
That's pretty messed up when your star QB gets busted for that shit.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2260155
4 Vikings were charged for the boat party. Culpepper, Smoot, McKinnie, and Moe Williams.
That's pretty messed up when your star QB gets busted for that shit.
12-15-2005, 02:44 PM
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12-15-2005, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Doom878
Darrel Russell died
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2260155
4 Vikings were charged for the boat party. Culpepper, Smoot, McKinnie, and Moe Williams. That's pretty messed up when your star QB gets busted for that shit.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2260155
4 Vikings were charged for the boat party. Culpepper, Smoot, McKinnie, and Moe Williams.
That's pretty messed up when your star QB gets busted for that shit.
12-15-2005, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
I'm gonna have to find a bar in Colorado that has the game.
I really hope it's a good game.
I really hope it's a good game.
Or would a tie be better???
12-15-2005, 05:13 PM
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Something about this pic just makes me laugh...
Sorry, you may carry on with the current topic now...
Sorry, you may carry on with the current topic now...
12-16-2005, 09:05 AM
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I hope we own them like last time, but do not fall asleep at the end again....I wonder which team will show up - the point scoring offense or the run it every down despite no gains - conservative offense.
Giotta stay close with the giants - I am hoping KC gives it to them,
Giotta stay close with the giants - I am hoping KC gives it to them,
Originally Posted by mantis23
dal will own wash ( i hope )
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12-16-2005, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Doom878
Correction to my statement btw. Not just corners, nobody has done that.
I have seen all 28 picks and 20 sacks
My favorite quote from Smoot when he came out of college.
"80% of the earth is covered by water, the other 20% by Smoot."
12-18-2005, 07:00 PM
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Go Giants
Originally Posted by mantis23
Fuck the Cowboys, fuck Drew Bledsoe, and fuck the Cowboys offensive line. :silvermad
As a matter of fact, fuck everybody!
As a matter of fact, fuck everybody!
12-18-2005, 08:15 PM
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Interesting. Interesting.
Originally Posted by mantis23
Fuck the Cowboys, fuck Drew Bledsoe, and fuck the Cowboys offensive line. :silvermad
As a matter of fact, fuck everybody!
As a matter of fact, fuck everybody!
Meh. You'd have to have one of the best offensive lines of all time to stop Phillip Daniels.
12-18-2005, 08:49 PM
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Interesting. Interesting.
Also is Roy Williams not the most over-rated player in football? The guy blew coverage against Chris Cooley all day and was a non-factor against the run. He flat out sucks.
The only thing that guy is good for is a couple penalties per game.
The only thing that guy is good for is a couple penalties per game.