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#843
Go Giants
Originally Posted by wstevens
Yeah, they really sucked balls last night.
At least their uniforms are better than those faggoty red disasters that he G-Pussy's were wearing.
At least their uniforms are better than those faggoty red disasters that he G-Pussy's were wearing.
#844
Originally Posted by Jonesi
It was a good game.. I wouldn't say
The whole game did come down to the last series..
But if you watch the game, you'll see you could say the Steelers
themselves many times.
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But if you watch the game, you'll see you could say the Steelers
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And yes they did own themselves at the end with those penalties...but their defense owned us near the end, we couldn't even get a first down and waste some clock
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#845
Originally Posted by Sdog2012
Can you believe how hard they tackled him? it was like he was waving a gun around!
It was like Matt Millen gave his security a license to kill
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#849
Go Giants
Originally Posted by CLpower
heard the greatest news of my season last night. Kerry Collins is getting benched
Let's go big # 8!!!!!!!!
Let's go big # 8!!!!!!!!
#852
Drifting
Originally Posted by Doom878
Wow, I had Seattle defense and had a whopping 48 points. I wish they'd play the Eagles every week. ![rofl](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
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translation please?
I can't believe the line was only 3 1/2 points! hahaha
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i wish the raiders would bring back rich gannon!!! i saw him back when daunte was struggling with the vikings and he said he woulda played this year, but he only wanted to start! bring him back!
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Originally Posted by Sdog2012
i wish the raiders would bring back rich gannon!!! i saw him back when daunte was struggling with the vikings and he said he woulda played this year, but he only wanted to start! bring him back!
gannon sucked as well. He was washed up even during the year we went to the Bowl
#859
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Maybe the Raiders have a shot at drafting Leinart, Quinn, or Young...?
#862
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Ouch...the Eagles' just keep bleeding...Westbrook done for year.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2250259
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2250259
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Lovie is my kinda coach. Finally, a guy who, 1. Gets it done and 2. Sticks to his word, no matter who is pressuring. Orton is his man, he has clearly said this. Even now he is sticking to it. He said simply that he will be expecting a much better performance, and that Orton needs to (obviously) step it up, or else there just might be a chance of Grossman coming in. GREAT coaching, part of the reason why the Bears are where they are despite the
Oh NO! fense.
oh and BTW, I am uber-pumped for this Sunday's game. I took off of work in order to watch it with my buddy's, who also took off work (mostly because we have a friend's special b-day the night before, but still..). I see a close game, but a Steeler win. Unforunately for the Bears, they are on the road against a PISSED Steelers bunch after losing 3 straight.
GO BEARS though
Oh NO! fense.
oh and BTW, I am uber-pumped for this Sunday's game. I took off of work in order to watch it with my buddy's, who also took off work (mostly because we have a friend's special b-day the night before, but still..). I see a close game, but a Steeler win. Unforunately for the Bears, they are on the road against a PISSED Steelers bunch after losing 3 straight.
GO BEARS though
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Whats up everyone,
Need some WR advice for the first round of the playoffs. I need 3 from this list.
Hines Ward
Santana Moss
Larry Fitz.
TJ Hoosyomamma
Amani Toomer
Im thinking Moss and Fitz are a given, dont know if I should go with Ward vs. a stingy Bears D, and Big Ben is shaky at best right now. Only thing is they will not be able to run, and PIT has nobody else to throw to.
Need some WR advice for the first round of the playoffs. I need 3 from this list.
Hines Ward
Santana Moss
Larry Fitz.
TJ Hoosyomamma
Amani Toomer
Im thinking Moss and Fitz are a given, dont know if I should go with Ward vs. a stingy Bears D, and Big Ben is shaky at best right now. Only thing is they will not be able to run, and PIT has nobody else to throw to.
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Maybe the Raiders have a shot at drafting Leinart, Quinn, or Young...?
Leinart will go early so Al Davis will need to work some magic to get in position to draft him.
#867
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Originally Posted by teg_to_bike
Bears 91
Steelers 3
Steelers 3
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And Orton's rating will be 323.6 right? Or wait...are 89 of those 91 points scored by the D?
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#868
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Oof...hope Moulds is not in anyone's football draft...he's about to be suspended.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
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And Orton's rating will be 323.6 right? Or wait...are 89 of those 91 points scored by the D?
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Does anybody here get the QB Rating system? why is a perfect rating 151.3 (i think, its something like that) why isnt it just on a scale of 1-100?
#871
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Originally Posted by Sdog2012
Does anybody here get the QB Rating system? why is a perfect rating 151.3 (i think, its something like that) why isnt it just on a scale of 1-100?
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How Does the NFL's Quarterback Rating System Work?
Chris Suellentrop
Posted Tuesday, Aug. 14, 2001, at 6:03 PM ET
Washington Post sports columnist Michael Wilbon says he can't understand the formula the National Football League uses to rate quarterbacks. Explainer to the rescue! How does the NFL calculate its passer ratings?
The NFL's system uses four metrics: completion percentage, yards per attempt, percentage of touchdowns thrown per attempt, and percentage of interceptions per attempt. The four factors are weighted equally.
A score between zero and 2.375 is calculated for each metric. A score of 1.0 is supposed to be average. A completely average quarterback would complete 50 percent of his passes, average 7 yards per attempt, throw 5 percent of his passes for touchdowns, and throw an interception 5.5 percent of the time.
Here's how each metric is calculated (remember that no score can be lower than zero or higher than 2.375, no matter how well or how poorly the QB throws):
1. Completion percentage: Subtract 30 from the percentage of passes that are thrown for completions, then multiply by .05.
2. Yards per attempt: Subtract yards per passing attempt by three, then multiply by .25.
3. Touchdown percentage: Multiply the percentage of touchdown passes per passing attempt by .2.
4. Interception percentage: Multiply the percentage of interceptions per passing attempt by .25, then subtract that number from 2.375.
The scores for each category are added together. That sum is divided by six and multiplied by 100, which converts it into a rating on a scale from zero to 158.3. A putatively average QB would receive a rating of 66.7 (1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 4, and 4/6 * 100 = 66.7).
If you don't have the patience for the math, you can enter the numbers into this ratings calculator.
No matter how well a QB plays, his score can never exceed 158.3, even if every pass is a 99-yard touchdown strike. By the same token, a QB's rating can never drop below zero, even if every pass he throws gets picked off.
The NFL emphasizes that its ratings system assesses how well a quarterback passes, not how well a quarterback plays. It doesn't account for rushing yardage or rushing touchdowns, nor does it account for variables such as leadership, play calling, or how good the team's wide receivers or offensive linemen are. But as this article points out, the NFL's ratings system is also limited in how well it measures passing. The system doesn't value third-down conversions, avoidance of sacks, or late-game heroics. (It actually penalizes a quarterback who throws an incompletion to avoid a sack.) John Elway's career passer rating is 79.9, good for 33rd overall, below lesser contemporary QBs such as Neil Lomax and Danny White.
One other problem with the NFL's system: In the modern NFL, the average rating is higher than 66.7. That's because the scores are calculated based on what the NFL thought would be average statistics for a quarterback in 1973, when the system was introduced. But in 1978, the NFL changed its rules to open up the passing game, by prohibiting defenders from bumping receivers downfield and by allowing offensive linemen to extend their arms to pass-block. As a result, modern-day QBs dominate the list of all-time passers. (Though old Cleveland Browns great Otto Graham still ranks third. Click here to view the list kept by the Pro Football Hall of Fame. You'll need Adobe Acrobat to view it.) Last year's average passer rating was 78.1, roughly equivalent to the career rating for Johnny Unitas.
#872
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Originally Posted by teg_to_bike
yeah, 12 touchdowns by the defense, the last one from Orton tripping over himself and accidentally landing in the end zone.
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#875
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Originally Posted by teg_to_bike
He's played what?... 6 whole games in his career?
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His name should be changed to Hexed Grossman...
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What do you guys think of this week's games?
i did my picks ...but i wanna see how far out to lunch i am...
chicago @ pittsburgh
cleveland @ cincinnati
houston @ texas
indianapolis @ jacksonville
new england @ buffalo
oakland @ NY jets
st. louis @ minnesota
tampa bay @ carolina
NY giants @ philadelphia
san fran @ seattle
washington @ arizona
baltimore @ denver
kansas city @ dallas
miami @ san diego
detroit @ green bay
mon. nighter
new orleans @ atlanta
i did my picks ...but i wanna see how far out to lunch i am...
chicago @ pittsburgh
cleveland @ cincinnati
houston @ texas
indianapolis @ jacksonville
new england @ buffalo
oakland @ NY jets
st. louis @ minnesota
tampa bay @ carolina
NY giants @ philadelphia
san fran @ seattle
washington @ arizona
baltimore @ denver
kansas city @ dallas
miami @ san diego
detroit @ green bay
mon. nighter
new orleans @ atlanta
#877
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CHI (but, I'm biased
)
CIN
TEN
IND
NE
OAK
STL
CAR
NYG
SEA
ARI
DEN
DAL
SD
GB
ATL
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CIN
TEN
IND
NE
OAK
STL
CAR
NYG
SEA
ARI
DEN
DAL
SD
GB
ATL
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Originally Posted by Andrea25
What do you guys think of this week's games?
i did my picks ...but i wanna see how far out to lunch i am...
chicago @ pittsburgh
cleveland @ cincinnati
houston @ texas
indianapolis @ jacksonville
new england @ buffalo
oakland @ NY jets
st. louis @ minnesota
tampa bay @ carolina
NY giants @ philadelphia
san fran @ seattle
washington @ arizona
baltimore @ denver
kansas city @ dallas
miami @ san diego
detroit @ green bay
mon. nighter
new orleans @ atlanta
i did my picks ...but i wanna see how far out to lunch i am...
chicago @ pittsburgh
cleveland @ cincinnati
houston @ texas
indianapolis @ jacksonville
new england @ buffalo
oakland @ NY jets
st. louis @ minnesota
tampa bay @ carolina
NY giants @ philadelphia
san fran @ seattle
washington @ arizona
baltimore @ denver
kansas city @ dallas
miami @ san diego
detroit @ green bay
mon. nighter
new orleans @ atlanta
houston @ TENNESSEE
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Originally Posted by Andrea25
oops..my bad
houston @ TENNESSEE
houston @ TENNESSEE
Edit: I also think KC will beat Dallas. Da Girl's defense is very good, but the offense is very stagnant.