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Old Jun 14, 2010 | 05:46 PM
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I was thinking about a supercharger. My buddy Eric has one but he has the 6-speed. Will the Automatic transmission handle a supercharger?
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Old Jun 14, 2010 | 05:59 PM
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^yes! Not tryna be an ass but if you haven't done any research on the s/c, I recommend reading thru all of the pages this thread has to offer. In addition to searching other supercharger threads
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Old Jun 14, 2010 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by flemdeazy
I was thinking about a supercharger. My buddy Eric has one but he has the 6-speed. Will the Automatic transmission handle a supercharger?
My friend is getting his auto s/c'd and I will tell you that everything will be the same and handle the power but you may want to look into a tranny cooler which is about $150.
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Old Jun 18, 2010 | 09:08 AM
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Here are the 2 gauges im going to be using... Uego AFR Wideband and Boost. Can someone PLEASE help me decide where the shit to install them?? I dont recall reading anything about gauge pods for our cars..



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Old Jun 18, 2010 | 10:06 AM
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Check this thread below-

gauges (click here)


And check pages 64-65 and 78-80 of this thread below -

Turbo Kit for Acura TL 04-08 (click here)
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Old Jun 18, 2010 | 10:39 AM
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Check this thread below-

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And check pages 64-65 and 78-80 of this thread below -

Turbo Kit for Acura TL 04-08 (click here)

Hey man thanks a lot.. looking at them now.
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by flemdeazy
I was thinking about a supercharger. My buddy Eric has one but he has the 6-speed. Will the Automatic transmission handle a supercharger?
I have been running the s/c for a while now and I love it!!! Mine is a '05 w/ the auto tranny. With the blower, hbp, tune, and the full exhaust, i'm putting down 310 @ the front wheels on a mustang dyno. Makes it a fun daily driver
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Mjakaz06TL
Here are the 2 gauges im going to be using... Uego AFR Wideband and Boost. Can someone PLEASE help me decide where the shit to install them?? I dont recall reading anything about gauge pods for our cars..



Hey...I haven't seen any gauge pods out there for our cars. I mounted mine right on top of the steering column...just so I didn't have to look down while driving
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by flemdeazy
I was thinking about a supercharger. My buddy Eric has one but he has the 6-speed. Will the Automatic transmission handle a supercharger?
Dude really.... Gettin a TL cuz i had one is one thing but gettin a SC cuz i have one is another

EDIT: its not even ur car..its your wifes car
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RonJonTL757
Dude really.... Gettin a TL cuz i had one is one thing but gettin a SC cuz i have one is another

EDIT: its not even ur car..its your wifes car
Please don't be hatin' man.. but I have been kicking around the idea of FAI for a while now.
My biggest issues are still the tuning (where there has been some progress) and a clean way to mount those guages. Of course the other limiting factor is that metal ring... ON MY LEFT HAND. LOL
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 04:42 PM
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Eric... you hater!
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 04:49 PM
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Please don't be hatin' man.. but I have been kicking around the idea of FAI for a while now too.
Sadly.. My biggest issues are still the tuning (where there has been some progress) and a clean way to mount those friggin guages.
Of course the other serious limiting factor is that metal ring... ON MY LEFT HAND. LOL
Take it easy on ol' flemdeazy... YOU ARE A PIMP DUDE.. WE ALL WANT TO BE LIKE YOU. :-)
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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That ring is evil. Seek Mt. Doom in Mordor and burn that thing.
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Souljah
That ring is evil. Seek Mt. Doom in Mordor and burn that thing.
MY PRECIOUS..
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 03:18 PM
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I'm pretty new to this site and have a question. I've been reading the threads and haven't found anyone with a s/c'd AT 07 type-s. I only got the car two months ago and already the urge has hit me. Any help on this one?
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 03:22 PM
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^As far as I know, only one member had a S/C Type-S. If you are talking about the Comptech Engineering supercharger kit, it will require some custom fabrication to fit the kit on your car.
And personally, I believe the blower is a little underpowered for your 3.5L engine.
Hope that helps.
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by da718saila
I'm pretty new to this site and have a question. I've been reading the threads and haven't found anyone with a s/c'd AT 07 type-s. I only got the car two months ago and already the urge has hit me. Any help on this one?

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https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/project-blown-tl-type-s-underway-703021/

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BG4c...eature=related

ENJOY

And yes It is real. I saw it in person at that same meet in the vid 3/17/09
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 09:41 AM
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Thanks!!! I spent all weekend doing research on it and it seems like it would be better to go the N/A route since I have an 5A. It would've been pretty sick though.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 10:20 AM
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^^^ depending on how well mechanically well rounded you are plus having another car you can get this.....

the tranny will hold up....the turbo guys are running ~370-400hp without any issues....but if your not mechanically inclined then i would suggest staying NA....
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 11:45 AM
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You live in Virginia so I would suggest getting in touch with paul (NVA-AV6). I have a s/c for sale and he would be the one to uninstall it so we can work something out if you are interested. He is the man for custom work.
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 03:31 PM
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The oem O2 sensors are not wideband type. Oem O2 sensors can not read the AFR mixture in a linear fashion. Oem can not say how lean or how rich. Well, at least not in a linear fashion suitable for tuning purposes.
I was wrong in my quote above. I learned today that the oem O2 sensor is a wideband. If a person had a OBDII scanner or OBDII data logger, the oem AFR could be read and would be suitable for tuning purposes.

However, if you have an aftermarket AFR gauge, the aftermarket gauge would require an aftermarket Bosch wideband sensor. Do not attempt to wire an aftermarket gauge into the oem O2 sensors. Only a OBDII scanner can be used to read the oem O2 sensor data.

Please see this link for additional info on OBDII scanners and OBDII data loggers.

Data Loggers (click here)

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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Inaccurate
I was wrong in my quote above. I learned today that the oem O2 sensor is a wideband. If a person had a OBDII scanner or OBDII data logger, the oem AFR could be read and would be suitable for tuning purposes.

However, if you have an aftermarket AFR gauge, the aftermarket gauge would require an aftermarket Bosch wideband sensor. Do not attempt to wire an aftermarket gauge into the oem O2 sensors. Only a OBDII scanner can be used to read the oem O2 sensor data.

Please see this link for additional info on OBDII scanners and OBDII data loggers.

Data Loggers (click here)
I believe I posted this somewhere when I called up autometer about a narrow band gauge. I had to use a boshe one wire and weld a bung into my third cat, same way an ARF wideband is used. It also didn't start working until the exhaust to an optimal heat temperature.
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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10K on the blower update

Damn I had to search for this thread on the last page lol

Just wanted to update you guys on the SC TL. I have had the blower on for approx 10K miles and she is still strong. Havent sent any rods through the block and havent broken down at all!!! Reliability is 99%

Im still running the ACM and stock injectors and still have plans to run meth and the AEM FIC, but im going through some personal issues that have made me put things on hold

Clutch is still holding up fine but after some hard driving and hot weather is has slipped into 2nd and 3rd. Surging only occurs obviously when its hot outside and even more noticeable with the A/C on. It seems that the car struggles out of first till about 10 mph and then it seems to click and drive fine. Im sure its the ECU retarding the timing blah blah.

I have surprised lots of people and to be honest when they hear the whine they back off Im pretty much addicted to the sound it makes and I love blowing past cars with their windows dont at 6K making them deaf lolz.

Future plans are:
- Dyno AS IS (hopefully this weekend)
-Meth injection
-AEM FIC
-Toylene in my tank
-upgrading to a 3.40 pulley from the GTP's

Gas mileage well to be honest has improved. I drive pretty agressive almost everywhere I go and I use Exxon 93 ( I know shell is the best) and I maintain 24 on average. BEFORE the blower i was at 21 maybe 22.

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Installed the SC right a 70K


I did reset the battery after the install maybe at 500 but i havent since then


And for those who havent seen I had to get the right Personal tag :wink:


More to come
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 07:44 PM
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how about supercharging the inside cleaning a little bit
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 07:48 PM
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how about supercharging the inside cleaning a little bit
I know I know I have a meet this weekend and I will detail the inside.
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RonJonTL757
Damn I had to search for this thread on the last page lol

Just wanted to update you guys on the SC TL. I have had the blower on for approx 10K miles and she is still strong. Havent sent any rods through the block and havent broken down at all!!! Reliability is 99%

Im still running the ACM and stock injectors and still have plans to run meth and the AEM FIC, but im going through some personal issues that have made me put things on hold

Clutch is still holding up fine but after some hard driving and hot weather is has slipped into 2nd and 3rd. Surging only occurs obviously when its hot outside and even more noticeable with the A/C on. It seems that the car struggles out of first till about 10 mph and then it seems to click and drive fine. Im sure its the ECU retarding the timing blah blah.


More to come

You've been warned, no excuses when it lets go. Reliability is 100% till it sends a rod through the block.
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 08:41 PM
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LOL^

Anyways, you're not missing out on much with FI/C... it causes me more headaches than joy. Digging the plates bro. But not so much the emblem without the outside circle. Looks like Star Trek logo.
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 08:57 PM
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You've been warned, no excuses when it lets go. Reliability is 100% till it sends a rod through the block.
lol I know thats why i said 99% there is always that chance. Trust me im gonna get this soon. that is the reason why I dont have my aspec kit yet.

Originally Posted by Souljah
LOL^

Anyways, you're not missing out on much with FI/C... it causes me more headaches than joy. Digging the plates bro. But not so much the emblem without the outside circle. Looks like Star Trek logo.
Man dont say that about the FIC... I thought it was golden as long as it was tuned properly. Yeah i have had my emblem like that for 5 years now and i know its a "to each his own" thing I like it, but if you turn it upside down it looks like the transformers symbol lol
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by I hate cars
You've been warned, no excuses when it lets go. Reliability is 100% till it sends a rod through the block.
There's problems with everything, supercharged or not and even problems with the ol' reliable J N R turbo. Once you touch the car it gets very temperamental.
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 09:10 PM
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There's problems with everything, supercharged or not and even problems with the ol' reliable J N R turbo. Once you touch the car it gets very temperamental.
You're increasing chances of damaging the engine by 1,000% by running no engine management and/or no meth with the blower. It will blow, it's just a matter of time. In the meantime you're hammering the entire bottom end. That's like saying I'm only going to run 1 quart of oil because there's still a risk of the engine wearing out with 5 quarts.
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 09:12 PM
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lol I know thats why i said 99% there is always that chance. Trust me im gonna get this soon. that is the reason why I dont have my aspec kit yet.

I hope it works out for you. There is damage being done even before it lets go. You're hammering the rod and main bearings along with chiseling away at pistons and headgaskets. Everything is being worn and weakened. I would drive it easy until you get the meth or at least the higher octane.
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 10:59 PM
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..... by running no engine management and/or no meth with the blower. It will blow.......
Ok IHC. These great puns are intentional. I just know it.

Either way (intend or not), it's a good pun.
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Souljah
LOL^

Anyways, you're not missing out on much with FI/C... it causes me more headaches than joy. Digging the plates bro. But not so much the emblem without the outside circle. Looks like Star Trek logo.
Originally Posted by RonJonTL757


Man dont say that about the FIC... I thought it was golden as long as it was tuned properly.
yeah...souljah is right about the fic causes more headaches than joy. i have the fic, the modified harness and the rsx-s injectors sitting there doing f-all. why? because the fic may do wonders at open-looped, but not closed loop. during closed loop, the ecu goes into limp mode and it needs a reset. apparently paul is working on another black box solution that works together with his modified harness and fic. the purpose of this black box is to give the fic control of the closed loop. but that project has been put in the back burner.

i am running meth tho...hopefully that box comes out soon.
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 11:23 PM
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Ok IHC. These great puns are intentional. I just know it.

Either way (intend or not), it's a good pun.
You give me too much credit. I do think about it when posting at work. I just went through one "random" drug test. Maybe IT is monitoring my forum activity...
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 09:48 PM
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BUMP!

Any other S/C guys noticing an increase in MPG on their MID???
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 11:06 PM
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BUMP!

Any other S/C guys noticing an increase in MPG on their MID???
Ok if you are running the FIc with larger injectors the mid will say you are getting crazy mileage. I think this is because the mid looks at the percentage of injector duty cycle to figure fuel usage. In my case I'm running double injector so it thinks I'm sipin gas when it's only looking at half the flow.
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 11:52 PM
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^ i agree...

i just figure mine out the old fashioned way... fill the tank, reset the milage, run al low as you can, fill back up and see how many gallons you used, then do a little dividing, simple....

i average a measly 20mpg, but i have a lead foot too =/
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 09:00 AM
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I'm seeing the same thing. I haven't checked my MPG but I do know that I get into the boost all the time and can see the needle dropping much quicker than it used to and the MID is telling me I am getting the same or better MPG than usual.
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 09:13 AM
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I'm seeing the same thing. I haven't checked my MPG but I do know that I get into the boost all the time and can see the needle dropping much quicker than it used to and the MID is telling me I am getting the same or better MPG than usual.
Since boost raises the effective compression ratio, the engine is actually a little more efficient when under boost. Usually the extra fuel consumed by the extra power more than makes up for the extra efficiency, sometimes you will actually see an improvement.
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