gauges
gauges
I have gauges and i don't know if i should install them in the car, what do u guys think?? i would really appreciate if the one who agree give me some ideas and post picts...thanks in advance
Veni, vidi, vici
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From: boston
gauges for what? you DO know the TL already comes with it's own guages. one for MPH, one for RPM, and even one for Fuel and Temp (kill two birds with one stone). You got a clap-o-meter? do you have a guage for how many guages you got/using? you got a guage for how good these jokes are? you got a guage for RICE?
Seriously, do you have like NOS or something, what exactly are they for? you got air bag suspension? you got something to measure? did you just randomly get guages for nothing? if so, that is EPIC RICE, and I guess you can "install" them in the glove compartment.
LOL, I'm just messing with ya... but seriously, don't install useless things on the TL.
Seriously, do you have like NOS or something, what exactly are they for? you got air bag suspension? you got something to measure? did you just randomly get guages for nothing? if so, that is EPIC RICE, and I guess you can "install" them in the glove compartment.
LOL, I'm just messing with ya... but seriously, don't install useless things on the TL.
Last edited by Bayam0n; Apr 12, 2010 at 12:33 PM.
Veni, vidi, vici
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From: boston
LOL, I'm so sorry, I couldn't resist, lol.
I've seen TL's with gauges in their glove compartment (I guess they actually do monitor something) and it looks good. I just think that's really a ricer thing, something you see on civic.
Racer
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i think a member here has gauges installed in the glove compartment. those monitors oil temp, oil pressure and maybe voltage???
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Veni, vidi, vici
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you are correct, and infact he has one of the sickest TL's in AZINE.
here is the link,.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...eanest&page=13
Advanced
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Never understood additional gauges unless the vehicle is highly modified. Having said that, I installed more gauges in my Duramax, but then again, I added a "chip" and regularly tow. It's a must to monitor EGT's when you modify a diesel...
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Instructor
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yeah, except for when you floor it to here the awesome sound of the supercharger and you run out of gas
jk looks like a good spot, when you get the pods post up some pics
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From outside of driver-side door at daytime
From outside of driver-side door at night
From standing behind car
From driver's seat
In pic below, this shows fairly accurately how the gauges do *not* obstruct my view of the road.
In case you would like to know what the gauges are.
Burning Brakes
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Something just tells me this Tl is going to dominate when it's done innacurate is doing all the right things in the right order the way it should be done in stages ....can't wait to see outcome ..thumbs up .....
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From: Houston, Texas
Rodney - Thank you very much for the kind words. You are right about the stages. Mine is a long term project requiring many different aspects to be covered. Your kind words mean a lot to me. Thanks
Phee - The diet is really very much habitable like you said. The only real negatives is that the interior is loud with all of the interior and insulation removed. There is a tremendous amount of road noise from the tires. Forget about listening to the radio. For me, I use my iPod with sound-isolating ear buds. Works great.
If I need to talk on my cell phone, I drop the speed to 55-60 mph so that the road noise will be at an acceptable level for me to talk over the cell phone. Needless to say, those are brief conversations with the wife (status check). Then, iPod back into my ears and the speedo back to 80+.
Phee - The diet is really very much habitable like you said. The only real negatives is that the interior is loud with all of the interior and insulation removed. There is a tremendous amount of road noise from the tires. Forget about listening to the radio. For me, I use my iPod with sound-isolating ear buds. Works great.
If I need to talk on my cell phone, I drop the speed to 55-60 mph so that the road noise will be at an acceptable level for me to talk over the cell phone. Needless to say, those are brief conversations with the wife (status check). Then, iPod back into my ears and the speedo back to 80+.
. cause of u my car is all gutted out too, and love the nimble feeling my car now has. 
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Nitrous pressure guage???
Now I'm curious. How much if any knock retard do you get in both regular driving and full throttle and do you run on 91 or 93 octane? I've never been able to compare to another TL before so this is exciting to me.
Now I'm curious. How much if any knock retard do you get in both regular driving and full throttle and do you run on 91 or 93 octane? I've never been able to compare to another TL before so this is exciting to me.
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IHC,
I am still in the process of experimenting with different scenarios. Most of my time has been devoted to finding a way to trick the ecu into not knowing that the oem knock sensor was removed. Boy,O, boy… Honda made the ecu too smart.
The ecu is looking for a random pulsing voltage from the oem sensor. Most knock sensors will produce a pulsing voltage from the “background” vibration. And, the ecu is programmed to see this “background” noise. But now, I am pretty sure that I have the ecu fooled into not knowing that the oem sensor is removed.
So for most of my time, I have been driving with a check engine light. It felt like the ecu was pulling out about 20* or 30* of timing with the check engine light on. Piss poor performance. Interestingly, the ecu is programmed to still give full timing during cruising even with the missing knock sensor causing a cel. My highway mpg did not drop in the slightest. I had to stay away from wot because the exhaust temps would peak at 1600* F with the low ignition timing.
I am glad that things unfolded the way they did. With the ecu throwing a cel, it gave me extremely low ignition advance under wot. This guaranteed that I had no detention. This allowed me to learn what a baseline level should be as seen by the Phormula knock sensor. The Phormula peaked at 35% on the display during wot. This 35% is the level of background noise being registered by the Phormula.
Now knowing what my baseline noise is, I set the Phormula to triggered an alert for anything higher than 40%. Anything higher than 40% will be detonation.
I have had very little time with my car fixed (no cel) since getting the Phormula installed. I just today was able to trick the ecu into not throwing a cel. But, I have had a few times with full ignition timing to learn a few things.
I purchase some Shell 87 octane to test the Phormula. This gave me a mixture a overall mixture of 50% Shell 93 octane and 50% Shell 87 octane in the tank. This averages to a 90 octane. With this 90 octane and full ignition mapping, the Phormula displayed an alert of 88% when testing it with a wot thru 1st gear.
Today I did the same test but I had pure Shell 93 octane in the tank. With Shell 93 octane and full ignition mapping, the Phormula gave me no alerts. It registered a 35%, which is just background noise and not detonation. This was while testing it with a wot thru 1st gear, same test as above.
However, the Phormula did give me an alert of 68% today when I did a wot from 60 mph to 100 mph. The weather temp was 92 degrees. I had pure Shell 93 octane in the tank and full ignition mapping. Remember that the ecu is not able to pull out timing because I have no oem knock sensor.
I will be doing more testing during the upcoming week during my daily commutes. I have a lot riding on this Phormula working correctly. I will be trusting my engine to this Phormula knock sensor, so I want to become very intimate with it and fully understand it.
I am still in the process of experimenting with different scenarios. Most of my time has been devoted to finding a way to trick the ecu into not knowing that the oem knock sensor was removed. Boy,O, boy… Honda made the ecu too smart.
The ecu is looking for a random pulsing voltage from the oem sensor. Most knock sensors will produce a pulsing voltage from the “background” vibration. And, the ecu is programmed to see this “background” noise. But now, I am pretty sure that I have the ecu fooled into not knowing that the oem sensor is removed.
So for most of my time, I have been driving with a check engine light. It felt like the ecu was pulling out about 20* or 30* of timing with the check engine light on. Piss poor performance. Interestingly, the ecu is programmed to still give full timing during cruising even with the missing knock sensor causing a cel. My highway mpg did not drop in the slightest. I had to stay away from wot because the exhaust temps would peak at 1600* F with the low ignition timing.
I am glad that things unfolded the way they did. With the ecu throwing a cel, it gave me extremely low ignition advance under wot. This guaranteed that I had no detention. This allowed me to learn what a baseline level should be as seen by the Phormula knock sensor. The Phormula peaked at 35% on the display during wot. This 35% is the level of background noise being registered by the Phormula.
Now knowing what my baseline noise is, I set the Phormula to triggered an alert for anything higher than 40%. Anything higher than 40% will be detonation.
I have had very little time with my car fixed (no cel) since getting the Phormula installed. I just today was able to trick the ecu into not throwing a cel. But, I have had a few times with full ignition timing to learn a few things.
I purchase some Shell 87 octane to test the Phormula. This gave me a mixture a overall mixture of 50% Shell 93 octane and 50% Shell 87 octane in the tank. This averages to a 90 octane. With this 90 octane and full ignition mapping, the Phormula displayed an alert of 88% when testing it with a wot thru 1st gear.
Today I did the same test but I had pure Shell 93 octane in the tank. With Shell 93 octane and full ignition mapping, the Phormula gave me no alerts. It registered a 35%, which is just background noise and not detonation. This was while testing it with a wot thru 1st gear, same test as above.
However, the Phormula did give me an alert of 68% today when I did a wot from 60 mph to 100 mph. The weather temp was 92 degrees. I had pure Shell 93 octane in the tank and full ignition mapping. Remember that the ecu is not able to pull out timing because I have no oem knock sensor.
I will be doing more testing during the upcoming week during my daily commutes. I have a lot riding on this Phormula working correctly. I will be trusting my engine to this Phormula knock sensor, so I want to become very intimate with it and fully understand it.
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From: Bakersfield
IHC,
I am still in the process of experimenting with different scenarios. Most of my time has been devoted to finding a way to trick the ecu into not knowing that the oem knock sensor was removed. Boy,O, boy… Honda made the ecu too smart.
The ecu is looking for a random pulsing voltage from the oem sensor. Most knock sensors will produce a pulsing voltage from the “background” vibration. And, the ecu is programmed to see this “background” noise. But now, I am pretty sure that I have the ecu fooled into not knowing that the oem sensor is removed.
So for most of my time, I have been driving with a check engine light. It felt like the ecu was pulling out about 20* or 30* of timing with the check engine light on. Piss poor performance. Interestingly, the ecu is programmed to still give full timing during cruising even with the missing knock sensor causing a cel. My highway mpg did not drop in the slightest. I had to stay away from wot because the exhaust temps would peak at 1600* F with the low ignition timing.
I am glad that things unfolded the way they did. With the ecu throwing a cel, it gave me extremely low ignition advance under wot. This guaranteed that I had no detention. This allowed me to learn what a baseline level should be as seen by the Phormula knock sensor. The Phormula peaked at 35% on the display during wot. This 35% is the level of background noise being registered by the Phormula.
Now knowing what my baseline noise is, I set the Phormula to triggered an alert for anything higher than 40%. Anything higher than 40% will be detonation.
I have had very little time with my car fixed (no cel) since getting the Phormula installed. I just today was able to trick the ecu into not throwing a cel. But, I have had a few times with full ignition timing to learn a few things.
I purchase some Shell 87 octane to test the Phormula. This gave me a mixture a overall mixture of 50% Shell 93 octane and 50% Shell 87 octane in the tank. This averages to a 90 octane. With this 90 octane and full ignition mapping, the Phormula displayed an alert of 88% when testing it with a wot thru 1st gear.
Today I did the same test but I had pure Shell 93 octane in the tank. With Shell 93 octane and full ignition mapping, the Phormula gave me no alerts. It registered a 35%, which is just background noise and not detonation. This was while testing it with a wot thru 1st gear, same test as above.
However, the Phormula did give me an alert of 68% today when I did a wot from 60 mph to 100 mph. The weather temp was 92 degrees. I had pure Shell 93 octane in the tank and full ignition mapping. Remember that the ecu is not able to pull out timing because I have no oem knock sensor.
I will be doing more testing during the upcoming week during my daily commutes. I have a lot riding on this Phormula working correctly. I will be trusting my engine to this Phormula knock sensor, so I want to become very intimate with it and fully understand it.
I am still in the process of experimenting with different scenarios. Most of my time has been devoted to finding a way to trick the ecu into not knowing that the oem knock sensor was removed. Boy,O, boy… Honda made the ecu too smart.
The ecu is looking for a random pulsing voltage from the oem sensor. Most knock sensors will produce a pulsing voltage from the “background” vibration. And, the ecu is programmed to see this “background” noise. But now, I am pretty sure that I have the ecu fooled into not knowing that the oem sensor is removed.
So for most of my time, I have been driving with a check engine light. It felt like the ecu was pulling out about 20* or 30* of timing with the check engine light on. Piss poor performance. Interestingly, the ecu is programmed to still give full timing during cruising even with the missing knock sensor causing a cel. My highway mpg did not drop in the slightest. I had to stay away from wot because the exhaust temps would peak at 1600* F with the low ignition timing.
I am glad that things unfolded the way they did. With the ecu throwing a cel, it gave me extremely low ignition advance under wot. This guaranteed that I had no detention. This allowed me to learn what a baseline level should be as seen by the Phormula knock sensor. The Phormula peaked at 35% on the display during wot. This 35% is the level of background noise being registered by the Phormula.
Now knowing what my baseline noise is, I set the Phormula to triggered an alert for anything higher than 40%. Anything higher than 40% will be detonation.
I have had very little time with my car fixed (no cel) since getting the Phormula installed. I just today was able to trick the ecu into not throwing a cel. But, I have had a few times with full ignition timing to learn a few things.
I purchase some Shell 87 octane to test the Phormula. This gave me a mixture a overall mixture of 50% Shell 93 octane and 50% Shell 87 octane in the tank. This averages to a 90 octane. With this 90 octane and full ignition mapping, the Phormula displayed an alert of 88% when testing it with a wot thru 1st gear.
Today I did the same test but I had pure Shell 93 octane in the tank. With Shell 93 octane and full ignition mapping, the Phormula gave me no alerts. It registered a 35%, which is just background noise and not detonation. This was while testing it with a wot thru 1st gear, same test as above.
However, the Phormula did give me an alert of 68% today when I did a wot from 60 mph to 100 mph. The weather temp was 92 degrees. I had pure Shell 93 octane in the tank and full ignition mapping. Remember that the ecu is not able to pull out timing because I have no oem knock sensor.
I will be doing more testing during the upcoming week during my daily commutes. I have a lot riding on this Phormula working correctly. I will be trusting my engine to this Phormula knock sensor, so I want to become very intimate with it and fully understand it.
One small item, have you checked into the different frequencies caused by different knock (since the sensor is a piezio (sp)element) such as preignition vs detonation? I admittantly don't know the facts but I do know one will have a higher frequency (depending on the severity) and one will be slightly lower. Anyway, this is the kind of info this communitiy needs even though I doubt they will be taking advantage of it in the next 5 years.
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From: Houston, Texas
I hope that you didn't think that I forgot about you.
Yes, I have beat the CEL. It stays off. I will be explaing the CEL topic late today or tomorrow in the linked thread below.
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Hi bmeyer,
I hope that you didn't think that I forgot about you.
Yes, I have beat the CEL. It stays off. I will be explaing the CEL topic late today or tomorrow in the linked thread below.
Knock Monitor (click here)
I hope that you didn't think that I forgot about you.
Yes, I have beat the CEL. It stays off. I will be explaing the CEL topic late today or tomorrow in the linked thread below.
Knock Monitor (click here)
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