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Old May 19, 2010 | 08:05 PM
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Popped the good ol' hood today and i noticed that the stupid White Plastic thinggy has completly come out from where its supposed to be. What exactly does this do and why does it come out from time to time??

This was taken last month at the NC meet as you can see it backing out. its the white thing near my orange dip stick
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Old May 19, 2010 | 08:37 PM
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It shouldn't be slipping out. That part should be bolted down to an L plate that should have came with the super charger.
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Old May 19, 2010 | 09:00 PM
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huh its just a plastic ring? i know that the previous owner had that prob because you can see where they used like a flat head to tap it in
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Old May 19, 2010 | 09:46 PM
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It may just be an "o-ring". the S/C pulley move at all? That part should be bolted down (the left side) to a bracket that had to be put in during install. Not good with descriptions. I will take some pictures.
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Old May 20, 2010 | 02:15 AM
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So with the mods I currently have listed in my signature. What exactly would I need to get to have a successful installation? I've debated myself on the supercharger. Being 5AT and with no problems so far. I am very strict on my maintenance as is. Synthetic Oil baby, since I got it. Changed every fluid in the car. And I got like 113K now.
No issues. Plus if I had the supercharger couldn't I easily still just drive it regular?
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Old May 20, 2010 | 03:11 AM
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Yes the thing with a SC is that you can litterally drive the car normally and you will forget its there. Its more like power on tap and IMO the ultimate sleeper because unlike a turbo we dont need a IC.

However knowing you have the extra power and with the beauutiful sound it emits you might find yourself a bit more on the pedal than you might expect.

Looking at your mods you will be fine with the exception of you might wanna get some PCD's and your aem will have to be modified if you wanna run CAI. Other than that its just the little things that you will need like gauges a new battery, and maybe better spark plugs if you wanna get serious Methanol Injection and the AEM F/ic but none are needed of those are truly needed to run it.

Hope this helps sorta Are you looking to get new or used? Personally i would get it used from a reputable member on here and use that extra 1k-1.5k for the extra stuff.
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Old May 20, 2010 | 11:37 AM
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Are you looking to get new or used? Personally i would get it used from a reputable member on here and use that extra 1k-1.5k for the extra stuff.
And also if you buy new, you'll wait a hella of a long time.
I've been waiting for over 5 weeks.
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Old May 20, 2010 | 01:57 PM
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Yes the thing with a SC is that you can litterally drive the car normally and you will forget its there. Its more like power on tap and IMO the ultimate sleeper because unlike a turbo we dont need a IC.

However knowing you have the extra power and with the beauutiful sound it emits you might find yourself a bit more on the pedal than you might expect.

Looking at your mods you will be fine with the exception of you might wanna get some PCD's and your aem will have to be modified if you wanna run CAI. Other than that its just the little things that you will need like gauges a new battery, and maybe better spark plugs if you wanna get serious Methanol Injection and the AEM F/ic but none are needed of those are truly needed to run it.

Hope this helps sorta Are you looking to get new or used? Personally i would get it used from a reputable member on here and use that extra 1k-1.5k for the extra stuff.
The supercharger does need an intercooler, it just doesn't include one. Discharge temps of that small roots blower at 4-5psi will be the same or greater than the turbo at 10+psi. You could run the turbo with no intercooler if you chose to do it but you would lose power.

IC really isn't visible behind the bumper. The turbo makes an entirely different sound and you can control how loud it is by which intake you choose.
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Old May 21, 2010 | 02:26 PM
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Back on Page 13 of this thread, I mentioned the Phormula Knock Monitor. I finally got mine installed. Below is a link that shows pics in Post #20.

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Old May 29, 2010 | 02:53 AM
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Old May 30, 2010 | 12:13 AM
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Finished install this morning. Now it's just sitting in the garage like a caged animal.
Appointment for tune Tuesday.
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Old May 30, 2010 | 12:16 AM
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Holy shit Nice Kevin!!!! Yeah she looks mean as fuck w/o the front bumper lol Good luck on the tune
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Old May 30, 2010 | 12:23 AM
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Thanks man.
She's all put back together. I did a couple sprints around my neighborhood and watched my A/F go crazy. I think the RSX-S injectors helped it not be so lean.
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Old May 30, 2010 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Souljah
Thanks man.
She's all put back together. I did a couple sprints around my neighborhood and watched my A/F go crazy. I think the RSX-S injectors helped it not be so lean.
Thats good. I still have my injectors lying around. Im running 10.8-11.3 w/o them
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Old May 30, 2010 | 01:14 AM
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10-11, is that good? A little rich?

What should I expect from my tune?
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Old May 30, 2010 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Souljah
10-11, is that good? A little rich?

What should I expect from my tune?
Well everyone says anywhere in the 11's is the sweet spot. Not sure what you should expect with the tune but if i had to guess i would say 10.8-12.5 is where you wanna be. Cant wait for the dyno results

U running meth yet?
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Old May 30, 2010 | 01:47 AM
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No meth yet. Colorado is very high in elevation, very thin air. I have a buddy that is running HBP on his accord for couple years now. I think , i'll be fine without it.

As for the dyno, the TL is my daily driver and automatic transmission. Not really expecting a crazy whp/tq.
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Old May 30, 2010 | 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Souljah
No meth yet. Colorado is very high in elevation, very thin air. I have a buddy that is running HBP on his accord for couple years now. I think , i'll be fine without it.

As for the dyno, the TL is my daily driver and automatic transmission. Not really expecting a crazy whp/tq.
While the HBP may only show stockish boost numbers at your altitude, it will still be producing just as much extra charge air heat. I would not go down this path without meth.
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Old May 30, 2010 | 03:23 AM
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Are you speaking in terms of HBP?
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Old May 30, 2010 | 03:30 AM
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Hey what does a HBP new and used go for? had a seller PM me earlier
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Old May 30, 2010 | 03:32 AM
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I do not even know where to buy them from?
Where do you get it new?
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Old May 30, 2010 | 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Souljah
I do not even know where to buy them from?
Where do you get it new?
no effn' clue
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I just bought a 3.4" pulley for $78 shipped that would go on the supercharged pontiac's. HBP is too small for our S/C and will end up hurting the s/c including your engine.
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Old May 30, 2010 | 04:32 AM
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I see.
Yeah seems like HBP is nothing but bad news everytime it's mentioned.
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Old May 30, 2010 | 04:34 AM
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Do you guys think I should cut up my K&N CAI and attach it to the blower or continue to use the supplied Comptech "Icebox/Intake"?
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Old May 30, 2010 | 05:45 PM
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I just bought a 3.4" pulley for $78 shipped that would go on the supercharged pontiac's. HBP is too small for our S/C and will end up hurting the s/c including your engine.
Need details!!! what is the diameter of the stock and HBP?

How much over 5psi will it generate?
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Old May 30, 2010 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Souljah
Do you guys think I should cut up my K&N CAI and attach it to the blower or continue to use the supplied Comptech "Icebox/Intake"?
I would just get a custom piping for about $50 and use the same cone. Defiantly use a custom CAI.
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Old May 30, 2010 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RonJonTL757
Need details!!! what is the diameter of the stock and HBP?

How much over 5psi will it generate?
http://www.southfloridapulleyhq.com/...on_pulleys.htm

3.4" one. I would not recommend it unless you have a full exhaust and a good tune. HBP runs about 8-9 psi I would say this one runs about 7 psi. It all depends on how your car is set up also. A more free flowing exhaust will decrease boost.
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Old May 30, 2010 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AckTL05
http://www.southfloridapulleyhq.com/...on_pulleys.htm

3.4" one. I would not recommend it unless you have a full exhaust and a good tune. HBP runs about 8-9 psi I would say this one runs about 7 psi. It all depends on how your car is set up also. A more free flowing exhaust will decrease boost.
That would give me 5-6.5 all day. Thats awesome gonna look into that. Yeah im wide open so i only get 3.5-4.5 if im lucky
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Originally Posted by RonJonTL757
That would give me 5-6.5 all day. Thats awesome gonna look into that. Yeah im wide open so i only get 3.5-4.5 if im lucky
Not much to look into except your bank account. That was recommended to me by paul NVA-AV6.
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Anything Paul says is golden Will it require a smaller belt?
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Originally Posted by RonJonTL757
Anything Paul says is golden Will it require a smaller belt?
Not sure. I should probably ask him.
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Old May 30, 2010 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AckTL05
I would just get a custom piping for about $50 and use the same cone. Defiantly use a custom CAI.
Any reason not to hack up my K&N CAI?
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Old May 30, 2010 | 11:43 PM
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I see you lurking IHC, speak your mind brotha
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Originally Posted by Souljah
Any reason not to hack up my K&N CAI?
if I were you I'd sell your cai and make a custom one for less than a third of selling price. All you need is a 90• elbow and a straight 1.5-2 ft of intercooling piping and a cone.
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I see you lurking IHC, speak your mind brotha
Lol. Lots to say but I'm across the country with only my phone for internet access. Too damn slow to type anything.

For the CAI, in short, low restriction before the blower takes priority over inlet temp. If you can have both thats great.

If you install a knock guage like Inaccurate there will bbe no guessing of what is safe and what isn't. If you install the HBP and it shows no knock you're perfectly safe.

To the others, the HBP by itself won't kill the engine or blower. Its the accompanying knock that will kill the engine. Get rid of that and it will last a long time.

On the blower end you're spinning it 20% or whatever faster so it will wear out 20% quicker but should still last a long time.
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Lol. Lots to say but I'm across the country with only my phone for internet access. Too damn slow to type anything.

For the CAI, in short, low restriction before the blower takes priority over inlet temp. If you can have both thats great.

If you install a knock guage like Inaccurate there will bbe no guessing of what is safe and what isn't. If you install the HBP and it shows no knock you're perfectly safe.

To the others, the HBP by itself won't kill the engine or blower. Its the accompanying knock that will kill the engine. Get rid of that and it will last a long time.

On the blower end you're spinning it 20% or whatever faster so it will wear out 20% quicker but should still last a long time.

The blower itself cannot handle the HBP, its too small and will harm the blower.
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Old May 31, 2010 | 02:05 AM
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Blower will be fine. It becomes very inefficient but no harm will be done.
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Lol. Lots to say but I'm across the country
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