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Old 12-16-2008, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sT04Louis
Optima Yellow Top = DEAD

And Acura had a lovely design plan of making it so you cant open your trunk where you might possibly keep jumper cables.


Lame....
damn that sucks you just cant win the past 2 weeks can you?

doesnt your back seats have a key lock so you can open that way?
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Originally Posted by sT04Louis
Optima Yellow Top = DEAD

And Acura had a lovely design plan of making it so you cant open your trunk where you might possibly keep jumper cables.


Lame....

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damn that sucks you just cant win the past 2 weeks can you?

doesnt your back seats have a key lock so you can open that way?

YT is dead too? YT should have plenty reserve power to crank it up but guess not...

TL sux with the trunk that you can't open without the power. not even a keyhole to open up manually. trunk is one of its flaws..
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Old 12-16-2008, 06:22 PM
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i just took my tl for a short spin on the snow/ice. TL NOT RECOMMENDED on any of these conditions except rain. i wonder what makes TL so bad on snow roads compared to TSX. also VSA OFF is a must unless your going nowhere.
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i just took my tl for a short spin on the snow/ice. TL NOT RECOMMENDED on any of these conditions except rain. i wonder what makes TL so bad on snow roads compared to TSX. also VSA OFF is a must unless your going nowhere.
Tires tires tires

Wider tires suck on snow/ice

What kind of tires do you have?

I have NO problem with the VSA
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Originally Posted by bluecarbonfiber
damn that sucks you just cant win the past 2 weeks can you?

doesnt your back seats have a key lock so you can open that way?
Yes it does, but the person who put in the amp for my sub screwed it onto the seat back, covering said opening.

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YT is dead too? YT should have plenty reserve power to crank it up but guess not...

TL sux with the trunk that you can't open without the power. not even a keyhole to open up manually. trunk is one of its flaws..
Yea it is terribly dead. So dead that i just tried jumping it by myself with my girls car. But its little 4banger isnt giving enough powwwaa.

Then again, i have no where to go. And wont be able to make it anywhere if i did. So i may just wait till it warms up and try again.

Also i need to find out why it is dying so quick. It was fine on Sunday, but since then it has drained out. Ill be checking for a drain even when its off after the weather passes. Im gonna guess fog lights.

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i just took my tl for a short spin on the snow/ice. TL NOT RECOMMENDED on any of these conditions except rain. i wonder what makes TL so bad on snow roads compared to TSX. also VSA OFF is a must unless your going nowhere.
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Tires tires tires

Wider tires suck on snow/ice

What kind of tires do you have?

I have NO problem with the VSA
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I just drove my girls carolla around with bald ass tires...but they are skinny as shit as well. Had no problems at all with some conservative big pedal action.
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:48 PM
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Tires tires tires

Wider tires suck on snow/ice

What kind of tires do you have?

I have NO problem with the VSA

235/45/17 oem michelins last winter
235/40/18 nexen uhpas this winter

both have similar reaction on snow/ice

used to have 225 series kumho asx on my older tsx and it handled snow/ice far better than the current tl.
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TL has too much torque to the front wheels for icey conditions. Try to keep it in first gear and let the torque converter roll you forward then gently apply the gas, like big toe on the pedal. Also, big V6 in front with what I'd assume to be poor weight distribution front to back can create some issues on ice.

K24 is a fairly light engine compared to your V6, the TSX is also lighter than the TL, plus having a smaller engine creates a better weight distribution not to mention less torque. That would also explain while Kyle's girls corolla with bald tires manages decently.

Drove to work this morning, parked all day, OEM battery managed to start her up no problem. However did have the radio and interior lights shut off plus the radar detector unplugged. Still rolled over fairly easy after sitting all day outside cold.

If your car is stuck just rev til your motor falls out, VTECCCCCCCCC, NOSSSSSSSSS..... LOL
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Im in the zone chief.
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Old 12-16-2008, 11:42 PM
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TL has too much torque to the front wheels for icey conditions. Try to keep it in first gear and let the torque converter roll you forward then gently apply the gas, like big toe on the pedal. Also, big V6 in front with what I'd assume to be poor weight distribution front to back can create some issues on ice.

K24 is a fairly light engine compared to your V6, the TSX is also lighter than the TL, plus having a smaller engine creates a better weight distribution not to mention less torque. That would also explain while Kyle's girls corolla with bald tires manages decently.

Drove to work this morning, parked all day, OEM battery managed to start her up no problem. However did have the radio and interior lights shut off plus the radar detector unplugged. Still rolled over fairly easy after sitting all day outside cold.

If your car is stuck just rev til your motor falls out, VTECCCCCCCCC, NOSSSSSSSSS..... LOL


i think the same too. its the problem with nose heavy tl with more torque.


btw.. some guy is selling e-shift procats in bm for $650. pretty tempting but they are known to deteriorate very fast.
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i drove the truck in to work today.. it was soooooooooo much easier than the TSX.. might just have to drive it the next few days to avoid rock chips and crap
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Originally Posted by sT04Louis

And Acura had a lovely design plan of making it so you cant open your trunk where you might possibly keep jumper cables.


Lame....
haha i bet they thought it was the smartest idea ever...the S2K is the same way - my friend who has his wrecked/blown up turbo one sitting in his garage freaked out cuz he couldn't get in his trunk the other day - i was like one what do u need out of your trunk considering your cars been sitting for over a year lol and 2 dead battery fool

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So out here where we live it's a bit icey but not too bad, good enough for the wife to drive me to work tomorrow, no way in hell I'll drive the TSX.


still can't get out of my neighborhood with out chains...decided to walk to the max today ugh what a horrible idea...then i watched some 4-runner go sliding thru the intersection cuz they wre going like 50 and slammed on their brakes(idoits)...the TL will just sit at home...its all for the best really


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I have NO problem with the VSA

are you kidding me?! I cant even drive in the rain with VSA on I get so angry I'm going to buy the switch where you can turn VSA off and it stays off (even when you restart your car) until you turn it back on...plus if you look around a good portion of the wrecked cars are people who have some type of stability assist crap and they think they are invincible
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are you kidding me?! I cant even drive in the rain with VSA on I get so angry I'm going to buy the switch where you can turn VSA off and it stays off (even when you restart your car) until you turn it back on...plus if you look around a good portion of the wrecked cars are people who have some type of stability assist crap and they think they are invincible
Nope, I'm not. VSA almost never kicks in though. And its NEVER flashed while driving in rain

For what its worth, I used to live in the Northeast so maybe I know how to drive on ice/snow
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my VSA only kicked in when i purposely gun the car. you know gotta rev it till the motor falls out HAHA.. (just had to throw that in) but anywho.. I also have 19s so its alittle bit heavier rim
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Old 12-17-2008, 01:32 PM
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VSA only kicks in when I start a race with every mother f*cker I see on the road lol!!!!!!
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Old 12-17-2008, 01:44 PM
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You guys gettin more snow up there in Portland today? We arent getting anything down here where I am.
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i got a little more this morning but its clear right now
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its been snowing since 10am for me..
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Old 12-17-2008, 02:18 PM
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^^same snowing since about 9:30 am, a good 1.5" or more on the ground. Got to lay fresh tred in my neighborhood but now my efforts have been covered up...
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It started snowing in SW Portland around 10am. I left to go home in Hillsboro - what an adventure that was! Sunset Hwy was fine, over Sylvan, etc, until past 217. It was pretty slick out there. Kept the TL in 2nd all the way, but had to exit off 185th because I was slipping too bad. 185th wasn't bad, but driving West on Cornell was pretty hairy. Some idiot in a Durango (piece of junk) turning West on Cornell from John Olson tried to beat the red light and did a 360. He stopped traffic for a while trying to get back on course.
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it started snow around 10:30am in my area. going out to discount tires to sipe tires on our pilot. got a lot cheaper compared to five years ago. only $11 per tire for siping.

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damn thats not bad at all i was thinking of siping the tires on the TSX but i keep going back and forth..

its expected to freezing rain now instead of just rain mix with snow =/
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freezing rain is the worse because it takes FOREVER for it to melt and it always knocks the power it, bleh.....

Min - let us know if the siping helped any.
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man... tire shop is really really really busy. i went to the discount tires on 185th and parking lot is more than full with people lining up to get chains or put new tires on. i thought it was thanksgiving black friday


i've done siping years ago on my old '98 accord when they weren't as popular as today and it really increases the traction. it was kumho 712 (summer performance) i believe and it survived a couple winter without any problem. back than it was a bit more than $20 per tire.

but one downside is it sounds like studded tires during summer. with increased number of treads, it creates similar noise like studs when your rolling with windows down. otherwise its pretty good traction device.
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Originally Posted by clee109
VSA only kicks in when I start a race with every mother f*cker I see on the road lol!!!!!!
that must be my problem lol...

oh and as for snow its been snowing since 6 when i walked to the max station lol
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http://www.sipers.com/sipers/index_large.asp


http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/tireSiping.dos


http://www.lesschwab.com/siping.asp



some info on siping. discount tires been doing the siping for many years but didn't know even les schwab started doing the siping
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melting here now, just to freeze into black ice tomorrow!
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melting here now, just to freeze into black ice tomorrow!
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Yay for frozen roads and "drifting" all over the place for fun!
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the mysteries of what tomorrow brings =)
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looks pretty tame out there today, but they are predicting more snow fall today.... we'll see, I can vouch for being tired of this weather though lol
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it was snowing in N portland when i was coming into work.. i want sunday to give us a ton of snow so i dont have to work.. then after that ill be done
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update... snowing really good here at work
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was snowing pretty hard here, still working from home again today! AWESOME!
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Dragging day.. even slow on here
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yep pretty slow on here, people must be out playing in the now melting snow
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anyone see the new Enkie rims coming out?
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they are lookin G-ewwwwwwwwd ill have to find a PIC of them.. they dont have them on there site yet =(
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