1G ILX Chat, Chit, and General Info Thread
#841
Drifting
This, and the throttle draws from the intercooler, not the intake (although some SC applications, they don't use an intercooler at all). intake pipe and filter is directed right to the turbo.
#842
Roots style blowers (ie. CT-E, 03 Cobra) have a core intercooler underneath the blower itself and sometimes connected to a front mount intercooler to assist with cooling. As far as my experience with the Cobra the front mount intercooler never moved air for throttle purposes.. The Air Intake did and the SRIs performed better than the CAI (on the Cobra). Sorry if I am confused on what you're saying but just in case I am not the intercoolers don't replace the CAI/SRI. The intercooler front mount helps cool the core and the core cools the air coming out of the blower.
#843
Drifting
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The problem is the you're comparing vehicles with aftercooled / intercooled setups. Also, the vehicles you are comparing utilize different, and perhaps more inefficient, blowers. The fact is the 8th civic si community swears by using a cai in conjunction with the m62 blower. Also note the position of the sri relative to the cai. The sri can only draw air from near the header / downpipe region (which is the hottest area in the engine). The cai, on the other hand, draws air from a much cooler area, away from the engine. If you like, I'd happily pull up some information/testimonials that prove the point, it'll just require some sleuthing (and time).
#844
The problem is the you're comparing vehicles with aftercooled / intercooled setups. Also, the vehicles you are comparing utilize different, and perhaps more inefficient, blowers. The fact is the 8th civic si community swears by using a cai in conjunction with the m62 blower. Also note the position of the sri relative to the cai. The sri can only draw air from near the header / downpipe region (which is the hottest area in the engine). The cai, on the other hand, draws air from a much cooler area, away from the engine. If you like, I'd happily pull up some information/testimonials that prove the point, it'll just require some sleuthing (and time).
I can see what you mean by the position of the intake itself. The Cobra has a front facing and the civic goes to the back of the bay. And, I am not trying to make it those direct vehicles as I know it's not really relevant in that sense but its the only factual information I have to compare.
If there is 8th gens with SC that have compared the SRI vs CAI I'd be willing to read that. But all the speculation is speculation on this or that about temps. The RSX Type-S benefited wildly from a CAI over SRI but it varies from car to car as we have already discussed.
It's worth noting I am not saying you're wrong I just find it worth discussing in depth lol
Last edited by Trentimus; 03-26-2013 at 10:24 PM.
#845
Drifting
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I'm all for positive discussions...lemme track the stuff down.
#846
Drifting
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Here you go (from the 8th gen si which uses the same sri / cai location and blower):
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Trentimus (03-27-2013)
#847
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From the tuner:
With the HAI (hot air intake) his average IAT's before the blower were 100-110*F and went down to 70* or so with the CAI. It picked up the power pretty much the moment the CAI was installed. A HAI compounds the IAT's after the blower.
On top of the cooler pre-blower IAT's, note how he is making more boost with the CAI... cooler air == more boost. With the CAI the setup is just performing more efficiently, period.
With the HAI (hot air intake) his average IAT's before the blower were 100-110*F and went down to 70* or so with the CAI. It picked up the power pretty much the moment the CAI was installed. A HAI compounds the IAT's after the blower.
On top of the cooler pre-blower IAT's, note how he is making more boost with the CAI... cooler air == more boost. With the CAI the setup is just performing more efficiently, period.
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Trentimus (03-27-2013)
#848
Welp.. that settles that.. HAHA
Do you know which SRI and CAI he used? Just for reference of design.
The Cobra was the exact OPPOSITE.. it would see more boost with the SRI which actually made it the better option by far. Good to know where the K motor stands on it and that gives me more piece of mind in choosing.
Do you know which SRI and CAI he used? Just for reference of design.
The Cobra was the exact OPPOSITE.. it would see more boost with the SRI which actually made it the better option by far. Good to know where the K motor stands on it and that gives me more piece of mind in choosing.
#849
Drifting
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I can't find out which one, I think it was teh K&N
#850
#851
Drifting
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aaron, aaron, aaron...
#852
Am I just being difficult?
So I found out today I was approved for my lease. I'm supposed to go pick up the car tomorrow. I'm a bit funny when it comes to things I buy, it's almost like an OCD. I like to be the first to touch it. When I go shopping for higher priced items, like purses or watches, I always ask them to get a brand new one from the back because I know it hasn't been tried on by a lot of people.
I asked my salesperson today how many miles were on the car and he said there were 19. I know that isn't a lot, but I know it has been test driven a few times. While I know that it's almost impossible to be the first to use a car, I'd like to choose one with lower miles if its available. I'm online now and I see that they have two cars with my preference available.
I want to send him an email to let him know that I would like to check out both cars before I sign. Should I let it go? Or is it my prerogative to choose which car I want?
Thanks
I asked my salesperson today how many miles were on the car and he said there were 19. I know that isn't a lot, but I know it has been test driven a few times. While I know that it's almost impossible to be the first to use a car, I'd like to choose one with lower miles if its available. I'm online now and I see that they have two cars with my preference available.
I want to send him an email to let him know that I would like to check out both cars before I sign. Should I let it go? Or is it my prerogative to choose which car I want?
Thanks
#853
Everyday I'm rofling
So I found out today I was approved for my lease. I'm supposed to go pick up the car tomorrow. I'm a bit funny when it comes to things I buy, it's almost like an OCD. I like to be the first to touch it. When I go shopping for higher priced items, like purses or watches, I always ask them to get a brand new one from the back because I know it hasn't been tried on by a lot of people.
I asked my salesperson today how many miles were on the car and he said there were 19. I know that isn't a lot, but I know it has been test driven a few times. While I know that it's almost impossible to be the first to use a car, I'd like to choose one with lower miles if its available. I'm online now and I see that they have two cars with my preference available.
I want to send him an email to let him know that I would like to check out both cars before I sign. Should I let it go? Or is it my prerogative to choose which car I want?
Thanks
I asked my salesperson today how many miles were on the car and he said there were 19. I know that isn't a lot, but I know it has been test driven a few times. While I know that it's almost impossible to be the first to use a car, I'd like to choose one with lower miles if its available. I'm online now and I see that they have two cars with my preference available.
I want to send him an email to let him know that I would like to check out both cars before I sign. Should I let it go? Or is it my prerogative to choose which car I want?
Thanks
#854
If you're leasing do you have the option of ordering an ILX and having it shipped to you? That may affect your deals.
#855
I'm not sure, but I would just take the one they have. I was just thinking since they have two, the other one most likely has lower miles. I'm spoiled because my Honda had 3 miles when I purchased it.
#856
Drifting
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Personally, I'd measure the cost / benefits of your decision. Sure, it's less miles, but for just 19 miles, you're really making the dealer work as they may have to do all new paperwork, etc. If it was 200/300 miles, I'd be there with you, but I just don't see the virtue with 19 miles, especially as the cars are prepped so well upon delivery. Haggling the dealer over the 19 miles issue may not be worth it in the future, when you may need a favor.
#857
Personally, I'd measure the cost / benefits of your decision. Sure, it's less miles, but for just 19 miles, you're really making the dealer work as they may have to do all new paperwork, etc. If it was 200/300 miles, I'd be there with you, but I just don't see the virtue with 19 miles, especially as the cars are prepped so well upon delivery. Haggling the dealer over the 19 miles issue may not be worth it in the future, when you may need a favor.
#858
Three Wheelin'
Personally, I'd measure the cost / benefits of your decision. Sure, it's less miles, but for just 19 miles, you're really making the dealer work as they may have to do all new paperwork, etc. If it was 200/300 miles, I'd be there with you, but I just don't see the virtue with 19 miles, especially as the cars are prepped so well upon delivery. Haggling the dealer over the 19 miles issue may not be worth it in the future, when you may need a favor.
#860
Drifting
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how much, son?
#862
Drifting
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Nice, I found it for 205, so I won't hassle you about trying to go through your connection. Thanks for providing the info!
#863
Drifting
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Good morning, who's got work this AM? I know I do, lol.
#864
I am waiting on my computer to install all of it's updates so I can get to working..
Until then.. trolling around Azine, drinking this Red Bull.
** I dunno how people feel about the type of music but Justin Timberlake's new album is a worth-while listen.
Happy Friday!
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#865
Drifting
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Happy Friday! I'll take a listen. Suit and tie is alright, imo. Do you feel like being spontaneous and ordering the AEM cai today? I'll do it if you do it.
#866
Drifting
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Then again, I guess we can wait til Monday...
#867
Everyday I'm rofling
I'm working today! I've put in 48 hours the past 4 days. Busy week.
#868
Drifting
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Do you get paid hourly?
#869
Everyday I'm rofling
Nope. Salary with no overtime.
#870
Drifting
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48 hours isn't too bad. I used to clock in 50-60 hours some weeks when I was a consultant.
#871
Drifting
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#872
Everyday I'm rofling
I have 48 at the beginning of today, so I'll end up with 56 when I leave today. I might leave early though since there won't be many people at the office towards the end of the day. I met my deadlines for the week.
The 2g tsx forums are cool. Same old same old. Lots of new members have been popping up lately. Some are even contributing which is good.
The 2g tsx forums are cool. Same old same old. Lots of new members have been popping up lately. Some are even contributing which is good.
#873
Drifting
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Yea, I never understood people who sign up for the forums and then maybe post once every month. Or the person that's active and then randomly leaves, lol...I guess people are busy or don't place emphasis on being active like us. I dunno, I find forums kind of fun...way better than facebook posting. Lol, speaking of facebook, I never understood people who post their opinions on the huge threads with alike 1000 shares on it. There are people who's names are literally attached to some rather polarizing opinions. If I was in HR I would totally be on Facebook and Youtube and not hire people who act a fool on those mediums, lol.
#874
I would be willing to drop the cash on it but I am just worried about that.. I can afford to pay and play but I don't WANT to afford a hydrolocked motor
Wow, Ryan.. workhorse much? I have only ever been hourly but if someone were to offer me the right salary I am sure I would work 50+ hours a week.
#875
Drifting
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Unless you drive in 1 foot deep puddles, you're fine...I've driven in the biggest rainstorms and there are countless people on the forums who have cold air intakes that haven't hydrolocked. It's only the 4 or 5 outliers that have had hydrolocking that have created the hype. Our ILX is very well blocked from rain: the fog light housing, the fender well, and the cover underneath the engine block any water from coming in. There is the intake vent near the foglight, but that doesn't point to where the filter would be.
#876
Drifting
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or you can get the K&N then :thumbs up:
#877
Everyday I'm rofling
I know I can't really complain. This many hours doesn't happen very often. Plus if there is a lot going on like this week, there will be a few other people who stay late too. Then we usually get dinner expensed by the company. I used to hate working late when I first started and was in a relationship, but now I don't care as much.
#878
Everyday I'm rofling
Yea, I never understood people who sign up for the forums and then maybe post once every month. Or the person that's active and then randomly leaves, lol...I guess people are busy or don't place emphasis on being active like us. I dunno, I find forums kind of fun...way better than facebook posting. Lol, speaking of facebook, I never understood people who post their opinions on the huge threads with alike 1000 shares on it. There are people who's names are literally attached to some rather polarizing opinions. If I was in HR I would totally be on Facebook and Youtube and not hire people who act a fool on those mediums, lol.
#879
#880
So thought I would share, I got my Tablet installed in my car. I ordered a bluetooth OBD2 reader and purchased Torque so I will have all the gauges I want without modifying the dash.
Also I must say, the Tablet was installed just infront of the arm rest and runs to the AUX port in the arm rest. I'm going to say that I am 99.8% sure that port bypasses the factory headunit's EQ settings because my stereo sounds amazing off the tablet. The sub in the trunk plays a full range of sound for a sub, not just a partial 30-42hz range.
Anyway... happy friday. I'm at 63 hours for the week when I punched in this morning... but i'm not salary
Also I must say, the Tablet was installed just infront of the arm rest and runs to the AUX port in the arm rest. I'm going to say that I am 99.8% sure that port bypasses the factory headunit's EQ settings because my stereo sounds amazing off the tablet. The sub in the trunk plays a full range of sound for a sub, not just a partial 30-42hz range.
Anyway... happy friday. I'm at 63 hours for the week when I punched in this morning... but i'm not salary