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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 03:49 PM
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The general torque gains their dyno test show is very respectable.. and unlike the Takeda and other intakes there is no inconsistency in the powerband. I would say this one is promising.. also it's facing the opposite direction the INJEN was facing.. so you shouldnt see an issue with radiator heat.

Any reason no one likes the K&N Typhoon SRI? It should also fit our cars.

Share link to 205 shipped.. that's a dope deal. For cost purely the intake maybe the best.. for cost theres no way to justify others.
http://lightningmotorsports.com/i-16...FedlOgodTXYA6g
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 03:51 PM
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The k&n won't fit! The civic si has a different lid so I'm thinking there is a difference with how the intakes were designed to fit the cars.
What do you mean a different lid? The hood?? The K&N replaces a part of the Si that are completely indentical. The upper side of that resonator is indentical part numbers and all. The lower is the only part different but even the lower connects at the precise point as each other.

On the Cobras the SRI would make a huge difference in power on the S/C.. dunno that this would be the same. I have never seen a heat issue but I know everyone talks about it.
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 03:53 PM
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The lid of the intake box is different on the si. Also, the box seems to sit more upright in the si. Not sure if the mounting points on the two cars are different.
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 03:54 PM
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Ive inspected both cars side by side and came to this conclusion some time ago. There's only one real way to find out, but with the AEM being cheaper, there's no point to not try that.
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by spdandpwr
The lid of the intake box is different on the si. Also, the box seems to sit more upright in the si. Not sure if the mounting points on the two cars are different.
I disagree. The part numbers are indentical. The K&N is a direct replacement to this piece.

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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 04:02 PM
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I disagree. The part numbers are indentical. The K&N is a direct replacement to this piece.

Si Box

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You're right regarding part numbers...that's weird, I checked one day and swore they were different...thanks for keeping me honest. Either way, I'd rather have the AEM intake if that fits.
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 04:04 PM
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But, the firewall in the ilx seems to be set back further, so this intake won't be completely sealed off and the hoods are different shapes.
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by spdandpwr
You're right regarding part numbers...that's weird, I checked one day and swore they were different...thanks for keeping me honest. Either way, I'd rather have the AEM intake if that fits.
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But, the firewall in the ilx seems to be set back further, so this intake won't be completely sealed off and the hoods are different shapes.
I'd be willing to bet the K&N will fit fine, but I understand the reluctancy with SRIs the cool thing about a SRI with our cars/Si is that the lower resonator grabs air too! But it all falls back on the simple fact that an intake can only draw so much power on it's own.. if you can save $80 REGARDLESS that's the one to go with!

I am sure the AEM will fit. 99.9% sure.. only take away that .1 for the fact I am no engineer.. but I can usually do a good job of taking a car apart.
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 04:10 PM
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I found the K&N for 240 shipped so that's why I'm on the fence, lol
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by spdandpwr
I found the K&N for 240 shipped so that's why I'm on the fence, lol
I personally prefer a SRI and the K&N for the fact it retains the lower resonator appeals a great deal to me. Where has you found for so cheap!? Lowest I found was around 270 -_-
I am obviously not a great price shopper lol
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 04:15 PM
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Here's the intake for 242 shipped:

http://www.streetsideauto.com/p/kn-t...air-69-1019ts/

Get it! It'll be nice rippin on the car with the intake on.
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by spdandpwr
Here's the intake for 242 shipped:

http://www.streetsideauto.com/p/kn-t...air-69-1019ts/

Get it! It'll be nice rippin on the car with the intake on.
Noticed too that this is similar to the design CT was using on the SEMA car but the SEMA car seemed to have more of a bend in the tube. (not that it was a finished product)

I really want this -_- but I keep thinking I should wait for the S/C then build around it.. or I should get my sway bars over the intake. S/C needs to be my priority!

You're distracting me with your voodoo magic!
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 04:25 PM
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get the intake! You'll enjoy the car more. What's 240 in the grand scheme of things. The sway bars and s/c are the more expensive things that you should watch for. I'll probably order the AEM tomorrow.
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by spdandpwr
get the intake! You'll enjoy the car more. What's 240 in the grand scheme of things. The sway bars and s/c are the more expensive things that you should watch for. I'll probably order the AEM tomorrow.
I can't find anywhere people who have the K&N give their thoughts on sound and power. I wonder if the AEM will really bring in cooler air or if the K&N being short ram will give better fuel response and the lower resonator tube will pick up some cool air to compensate. Are there any proof in tests that show SRIs really are too hot?
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 07:28 PM
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Aren't cold air intakes pointless unless you have the right exhaust + tune? From everything I've read just throwing one on is a waste. Unless all you care about is it sounding different.
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 07:44 PM
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Aren't cold air intakes pointless unless you have the right exhaust + tune? From everything I've read just throwing one on is a waste. Unless all you care about is it sounding different.
Pieces of the puzzle friend-oh! It's not really gonna be a big gain any way you spin it, but once the supercharger, ect is on then it all affects the other.
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 07:49 PM
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If you get other things to help out the intake, yes, eventually it will start to help out with gains. But I would say roughly statistically speaking, 97% of people with a CAI won't be SC.

For the 97%, the only thing they will get is sound.
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 07:52 PM
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If you get other things to help out the intake, yes, eventually it will start to help out with gains. But I would say roughly statistically speaking, 97% of people with a CAI won't be SC.
Correction for clarity.. The CAI does indeed produce slight gains for the K24Z7. Nothing to cry in joy over. I am going S/C for sure, bar something dramatic happening in my life in the next couple months. It's only $200 no big deal, throttle response, slight hp/tq gains without tune, supports mods down the road, and sounds cool.. There are worse purchases even for the 97%'rs
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Trentimus
Correction for clarity.. The CAI does indeed produce slight gains for the K24Z7. Nothing to cry in joy over. I am going S/C for sure, bar something dramatic happening in my life in the next couple months. It's only $200 no big deal, throttle response, slight hp/tq gains without tune, supports mods down the road, and sounds cool.. There are worse purchases even for the 97%'rs
Just dont go making babies. I hear those things are expensive.

I really want to ride in a car with a SC. Sounds like fun.
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 07:56 PM
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I really want to ride in a car with a SC. Sounds like fun.
It's only fun at WOT! Cobras are probably the best SC car to experience cause even the stock pulley whine is amazing.

LOL!! I definitely don't need a baby right now so I appreciate the tip!

Ryan, when I get my SC we can go for a spin
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 08:00 PM
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There are plenty of reviews online and they're all positive. I can link to some posts later, if you want, just let me know. I did note that people had a tricky time with the installation (using super glue), but nothing you can't figure out. Here are some vids:





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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 08:08 PM
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Also, there was a thread somewhere discussing the variances in iats between intakes. Suffice it to say, cold air was much much better.
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 08:23 PM
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You ordering the AEM tomorrow? I'll order the K&N if you do
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 09:25 PM
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Haha, I'll let you know when I order it.

Separately, I saw this review of the ilx and they added a tip to it and it looks pretty good!
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 09:34 PM
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Haha, I'll let you know when I order it.

Separately, I saw this review of the ilx and they added a tip to it and it looks pretty good!
Yeah, I saw that last week. Looks better with it. I wonder what kind of tip that is, wan't to get one myself.
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 10:04 PM
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That tip looks better than the factory. Still must cut hole for legit exit.
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 08:09 AM
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No doubt that the tip is burning the bumper.
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 08:57 AM
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On a side note, has anyone else noticed the proliferation of 2.0s on the owner sign-in? I wonder how the manuals are doing in terms of sales.
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 10:19 AM
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I see more ILXs running around my area.. but dunno if they're 2.0 or 2.4L.. you see the exterior is indentical haha
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 10:23 AM
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Yea, I know! I experience the same problem. I see some ilx's and never know whether it's a manual or not. All I know is I'm confusing a lot of people when I drive through in my car
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by spdandpwr
Yea, I know! I experience the same problem. I see some ilx's and never know whether it's a manual or not. All I know is I'm confusing a lot of people when I drive through in my car
Handling pick up trucks one gear at a time.
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 11:46 AM
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I get asked the weirdest questions about my car. But mostly "is this the new TSX?"
Then they look at the badge and ask "what's... an ILX??"

This car really wasnt advertised at all, it seems..
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 11:51 AM
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I'm gonna go with the AEM intake. Probably next week though. This week I gotta work on the track car. Got a few Autocross and open road course track day events lined up.

I'm also considering running the ILX in the stock class. See if I can match times with a few of the stock SI's, RSX, 1G TSX, etc..
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 11:54 AM
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Nice! I'll wait on you before I buy. Just curious, won't they see the modified rsb and endlinks?
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronnn
I get asked the weirdest questions about my car. But mostly "is this the new TSX?"
Then they look at the badge and ask "what's... an ILX??"

This car really wasnt advertised at all, it seems..
The only commercials I can recall are the aggressively driving Santa one & the double life commercial (guy walking through an airport on one side & a beach/resort on the other, both sides end up in an ILX.

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I'm gonna go with the AEM intake. Probably next week though. This week I gotta work on the track car. Got a few Autocross and open road course track day events lined up.

I'm also considering running the ILX in the stock class. See if I can match times with a few of the stock SI's, RSX, 1G TSX, etc..
Try it in a stock auto-x class. I bet it would do pretty well.
I used to do a lot of auto-x around here. Started in a completely stock '96 automatic Saturn SL2 on steel wheels & cheap tires, dad & I co-drove it & had fun beating kids in Golfs & GTIs
Totalled that & got a Civic EX & only autocrossed it a couple times.

Wouldn't mind getting back into it.
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 12:34 PM
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Nice! I'll wait on you before I buy. Just curious, won't they see the modified rsb and endlinks?
rear sway bars alone won't bump me up a class. Most of the guys actually run sway bars and upgraded tires on their stock class cars as well.
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
The only commercials I can recall are the aggressively driving Santa one & the double life commercial (guy walking through an airport on one side & a beach/resort on the other, both sides end up in an ILX.

Try it in a stock auto-x class. I bet it would do pretty well.
I used to do a lot of auto-x around here. Started in a completely stock '96 automatic Saturn SL2 on steel wheels & cheap tires, dad & I co-drove it & had fun beating kids in Golfs & GTIs
Totalled that & got a Civic EX & only autocrossed it a couple times.

Wouldn't mind getting back into it.
oh yeah, i remember those commercials during the past holiday season..

and ive actually only autocrossed in my subarus. First time with a fwd car. I'm really curious to see how it does because this car does handle better than my subarus did before all the modifications. the ILX feels much more neutral and lighter compared to the heavier awd cars, although not as planted.
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 01:08 PM
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I am still bent between the AEM and K&N.. the AEM will be cooler air but it's so long and has 2 bends.. the K&N is short and will get some cool air from the resonator, also has a heat shield but will inevitably pull warmer air..... neither would be a negative... but merrrr I will wait til you get the AEM one and see how it goes.

I am also interested in AutoX and how well the ILX will perform.. I am gonna have to learn how to drive FWD really quick to not be embarassed lol
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 01:30 PM
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Why would you get the K&N over the AEM? A longer intake doesn't really affect throttle response too much because air resides within the tubing anyway, so when throttle closes, you still have the air didn't go into the engine. Also, for an s/c application, you'll need the coolest air possible.
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by spdandpwr
Why would you get the K&N over the AEM? A longer intake doesn't really affect throttle response too much because air resides within the tubing anyway, so when throttle closes, you still have the air didn't go into the engine. Also, for an s/c application, you'll need the coolest air possible.
It's still slightly more difficult to draw air through longer tubing and bends. The K&N wont hydrolock, which is a potential issue in my area during rainy season, the heat shield and addition of the fresh air from the resonator chamber also assist with the air temps.

On S/C applications that's not always the case in the sense of a SRI vs CAI.. like I have previous said the difference in any of the CAI and a particular SRI was consitently a 20-30% increase for Cobra drivers. (not 20-30% total power just the difference in intakes)

But, if it weren't debatable I would of already bought one. I am actually thinking the way the K&N is designed it maybe the most functional on this car.

I want to see a dyno of the AEM.. maybe it will be like the old K20s and the AEM CAI blew everyone out of the water with gains on just the intake.. though I HIGHLY doubt we'd ever get 20whp off a intake lol
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