spdandpwr

http://lightningmotorsports.com/i-16...FedlOgodTXYA6g

Trentimus

What do you mean a different lid? The hood?? The K&N replaces a part of the Si that are completely indentical. The upper side of that resonator is indentical part numbers and all. The lower is the only part different but even the lower connects at the precise point as each other.

On the Cobras the SRI would make a huge difference in power on the S/C.. dunno that this would be the same. I have never seen a heat issue but I know everyone talks about it.

spdandpwr

The lid of the intake box is different on the si. Also, the box seems to sit more upright in the si. Not sure if the mounting points on the two cars are different.

spdandpwr

Ive inspected both cars side by side and came to this conclusion some time ago. There's only one real way to find out, but with the AEM being cheaper, there's no point to not try that.

Trentimus

I disagree. The part numbers are indentical. The K&N is a direct replacement to this piece.

Si Box

ILX Box

spdandpwr

You're right regarding part numbers...that's weird, I checked one day and swore they were different...thanks for keeping me honest. Either way, I'd rather have the AEM intake if that fits.

spdandpwr

But, the firewall in the ilx seems to be set back further, so this intake won't be completely sealed off and the hoods are different shapes.

Trentimus

I'd be willing to bet the K&N will fit fine, but I understand the reluctancy with SRIs the cool thing about a SRI with our cars/Si is that the lower resonator grabs air too! But it all falls back on the simple fact that an intake can only draw so much power on it's own.. if you can save $80 REGARDLESS that's the one to go with!

I am sure the AEM will fit. 99.9% sure.. only take away that .1 for the fact I am no engineer.. but I can usually do a good job of taking a car apart.

spdandpwr

I found the K&N for 240 shipped so that's why I'm on the fence, lol

Trentimus

I personally prefer a SRI and the K&N for the fact it retains the lower resonator appeals a great deal to me. Where has you found for so cheap!? Lowest I found was around 270 -_-
I am obviously not a great price shopper lol

spdandpwr

Here's the intake for 242 shipped:

http://www.streetsideauto.com/p/kn-t...air-69-1019ts/

Get it! It'll be nice rippin on the car with the intake on.

Trentimus

Noticed too that this is similar to the design CT was using on the SEMA car but the SEMA car seemed to have more of a bend in the tube. (not that it was a finished product)

I really want this -_- but I keep thinking I should wait for the S/C then build around it.. or I should get my sway bars over the intake. S/C needs to be my priority!

You're distracting me with your voodoo magic!

spdandpwr

get the intake! You'll enjoy the car more. What's 240 in the grand scheme of things. The sway bars and s/c are the more expensive things that you should watch for. I'll probably order the AEM tomorrow.

Trentimus

I can't find anywhere people who have the K&N give their thoughts on sound and power. I wonder if the AEM will really bring in cooler air or if the K&N being short ram will give better fuel response and the lower resonator tube will pick up some cool air to compensate. Are there any proof in tests that show SRIs really are too hot?

opboarding

Aren't cold air intakes pointless unless you have the right exhaust + tune? From everything I've read just throwing one on is a waste. Unless all you care about is it sounding different.

Trentimus

Pieces of the puzzle friend-oh! It's not really gonna be a big gain any way you spin it, but once the supercharger, ect is on then it all affects the other.

opboarding

If you get other things to help out the intake, yes, eventually it will start to help out with gains. But I would say roughly statistically speaking, 97% of people with a CAI won't be SC.

For the 97%, the only thing they will get is sound.

Trentimus

Correction for clarity.. The CAI does indeed produce slight gains for the K24Z7. Nothing to cry in joy over. I am going S/C for sure, bar something dramatic happening in my life in the next couple months. It's only $200 no big deal, throttle response, slight hp/tq gains without tune, supports mods down the road, and sounds cool.. There are worse purchases even for the 97%'rs

opboarding

Just dont go making babies. I hear those things are expensive.

I really want to ride in a car with a SC. Sounds like fun.

Trentimus

It's only fun at WOT! Cobras are probably the best SC car to experience cause even the stock pulley whine is amazing.

LOL!! I definitely don't need a baby right now so I appreciate the tip!

Ryan, when I get my SC we can go for a spin

spdandpwr

There are plenty of reviews online and they're all positive. I can link to some posts later, if you want, just let me know. I did note that people had a tricky time with the installation (using super glue), but nothing you can't figure out. Here are some vids:

spdandpwr

Also, there was a thread somewhere discussing the variances in iats between intakes. Suffice it to say, cold air was much much better.

Trentimus

You ordering the AEM tomorrow? I'll order the K&N if you do

spdandpwr

Haha, I'll let you know when I order it.

Separately, I saw this review of the ilx and they added a tip to it and it looks pretty good!

Spirited Driver

Yeah, I saw that last week. Looks better with it. I wonder what kind of tip that is, wan't to get one myself.

Trentimus

That tip looks better than the factory. Still must cut hole for legit exit.

spdandpwr

No doubt that the tip is burning the bumper.

spdandpwr

On a side note, has anyone else noticed the proliferation of 2.0s on the owner sign-in? I wonder how the manuals are doing in terms of sales.

Trentimus

I see more ILXs running around my area.. but dunno if they're 2.0 or 2.4L.. you see the exterior is indentical haha

spdandpwr

Yea, I know! I experience the same problem. I see some ilx's and never know whether it's a manual or not. All I know is I'm confusing a lot of people when I drive through in my car

Trentimus

Handling pick up trucks one gear at a time.

aaronnn

I get asked the weirdest questions about my car. But mostly "is this the new TSX?"
Then they look at the badge and ask "what's... an ILX??"

This car really wasnt advertised at all, it seems..

aaronnn

I'm gonna go with the AEM intake. Probably next week though. This week I gotta work on the track car. Got a few Autocross and open road course track day events lined up.

I'm also considering running the ILX in the stock class. See if I can match times with a few of the stock SI's, RSX, 1G TSX, etc..

spdandpwr

Nice! I'll wait on you before I buy. Just curious, won't they see the modified rsb and endlinks?

00TL-P3.2

The only commercials I can recall are the aggressively driving Santa one & the double life commercial (guy walking through an airport on one side & a beach/resort on the other, both sides end up in an ILX.

Try it in a stock auto-x class. I bet it would do pretty well.
I used to do a lot of auto-x around here. Started in a completely stock '96 automatic Saturn SL2 on steel wheels & cheap tires, dad & I co-drove it & had fun beating kids in Golfs & GTIs
Totalled that & got a Civic EX & only autocrossed it a couple times.

Wouldn't mind getting back into it.

aaronnn

rear sway bars alone won't bump me up a class. Most of the guys actually run sway bars and upgraded tires on their stock class cars as well.

aaronnn

oh yeah, i remember those commercials during the past holiday season..

and ive actually only autocrossed in my subarus. First time with a fwd car. I'm really curious to see how it does because this car does handle better than my subarus did before all the modifications. the ILX feels much more neutral and lighter compared to the heavier awd cars, although not as planted.

Trentimus

I am still bent between the AEM and K&N.. the AEM will be cooler air but it's so long and has 2 bends.. the K&N is short and will get some cool air from the resonator, also has a heat shield but will inevitably pull warmer air..... neither would be a negative... but merrrr I will wait til you get the AEM one and see how it goes.

I am also interested in AutoX and how well the ILX will perform.. I am gonna have to learn how to drive FWD really quick to not be embarassed lol

spdandpwr

Why would you get the K&N over the AEM? A longer intake doesn't really affect throttle response too much because air resides within the tubing anyway, so when throttle closes, you still have the air didn't go into the engine. Also, for an s/c application, you'll need the coolest air possible.

Trentimus

It's still slightly more difficult to draw air through longer tubing and bends. The K&N wont hydrolock, which is a potential issue in my area during rainy season, the heat shield and addition of the fresh air from the resonator chamber also assist with the air temps.

On S/C applications that's not always the case in the sense of a SRI vs CAI.. like I have previous said the difference in any of the CAI and a particular SRI was consitently a 20-30% increase for Cobra drivers. (not 20-30% total power just the difference in intakes)

But, if it weren't debatable I would of already bought one. I am actually thinking the way the K&N is designed it maybe the most functional on this car.

I want to see a dyno of the AEM.. maybe it will be like the old K20s and the AEM CAI blew everyone out of the water with gains on just the intake.. though I HIGHLY doubt we'd ever get 20whp off a intake lol