Sony: PS4 News and Discussion Thread
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i read on a few websites that it was only something like 1200 accts that were hacked
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Psn seems very laggy today tried playing some cod and it's lagging Pretty hard in every game I play. Pretty sure it's not my TB Internet connection lol
#724
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It's great when multiple hobbies come together. On a watch forum I frequent, someone is looking to trade an unopened PS4 bundle for a watch that I have. It was sitting in my watch box not being used anyway, so score for me!
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How much are these things now?
Then again i only use my PS3 as a bluray player.
Then again i only use my PS3 as a bluray player.
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Ahh I see. Have there been any issues with the launch day PS4s?
Just like how the 60GB PS3 were prone to the YLOD/RLOD
Just like how the 60GB PS3 were prone to the YLOD/RLOD
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Probably too new to have any pop up yet.
PS2 & 3 had issues with their launch versions IIRC.
PS2 & 3 had issues with their launch versions IIRC.
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Yeah I didn't hear about YLOD until a couple of years after release. RROD felt like instantaneous.
Anyone pick up Injustice for free via PS+ yet? Anyone get episode 1 of Game of Thrones by Telltale?
Anyone pick up Injustice for free via PS+ yet? Anyone get episode 1 of Game of Thrones by Telltale?
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Here's a sale. $400 with GTAV/The Last of Us/and the camera
PlayStation 4 500GB System Black Friday Bundle with Grand Theft Auto V and The Last of Us Remastered for PlayStation 4 | GameStop
PlayStation 4 500GB System Black Friday Bundle with Grand Theft Auto V and The Last of Us Remastered for PlayStation 4 | GameStop
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this tickles my fancy..
PlayStation celebrates its 20th birthday with a retro-themed, limited-edition PS4
but... I will stick with the one I have.
PlayStation celebrates its 20th birthday with a retro-themed, limited-edition PS4
but... I will stick with the one I have.
#733
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So PS Now will be a monthly unlimited rental subscription at $20 a month and allows PS4'ers or 3'ers to clean out the backlog via the internet. Free 7 day trial.
Sony Reveals 'PlayStation Now' Monthly Subscription Model At Last - Forbes
Sony Reveals 'PlayStation Now' Monthly Subscription Model At Last - Forbes
PlayStation Now always seemed like a good idea, executed poorly. The concept of granting the PS4 backwards compatibility through new-age game streaming was cool (as was playing games without a console altogether, using some devices), but a clunky pay-per-view model with wildly varying prices across different games and rental periods made the entire thing something of a mess.
But while that option is still there, Sony has listened to critics who were hoping for something closer to a Netflix model of game consumption. As such, they’ve just debuted a new subscription model for the service which will kick off in North America January 13th. It’s either $20 a month or $45 for three months, which are the only two packages so far in this experimental stage. That will grant players access to 100+ PS3 games, including some heavy hitters like Uncharted, BioShock Infinite, The Last of Us and Arkham Asylum.
I believe a hundred or so games available means that some titles will be left behind from the original PS Now set-up. The hard part of a subscription-based system was always going to be getting all the publishers on board. This is why we saw such variance in pricing, as it wasn’t Sony setting the numbers. But now they appear to have worked out a good enough deal with a proper amount of publishers in order to make this subscription happen.
The value for PS Now just wasn’t there before. The weird pricing system meant 90-day rentals often cost more than what you could buy the game for used, or sometimes even on sale in the PS Store itself, and the base four-hour rental period was laughably short. Now, with a flat flee as a blanket covering all these games, it seems a lot more plausible that PS Now could end up being a good deal for many.
At essentially $15 a month, if you play more than a handful of PS Now’s games in a given month, you’ve probably already made back your money. Under the old system, just a four-hour rental was anywhere from $3-5, with a week’s worth of play around double that. With that as a reference, the subscription is just going to be an unequivocally better deal 95% of the time, it seems.
A few of these games may be dirt cheap as used copies at this point, but the idea behind PS Now is that if you’re using the service, you probably don’t own a PS3 for whatever reason. Either you don’t have a console at all, meaning that PS Now could be a pretty great value on enabled devices, or you’ve moved on with your life and hawked your PS3 to partially pay for a PS4, but still would like access to older games you either miss playing or never played.
For me personally, PS Now probably still isn’t worth the money, given that I’ve already played the vast majority of the “major” titles in this list of 100+, and there are few games I’ve missed that would be worth paying either $20 or $45 to access. Like sure, maybe I never got around to the Grid or Overlord series, but it’s not enough of a nagging itch that I need to get a Now subscription to catch up. My current-gen backlog is long enough as is, and ironically, despite my previous complaints, individual rentals of specific games may be enough for me.
With that said, I won’t claim to speak for everyone, and I think PS Now is still a solid concept and is only made better by a subscription option. For players who have missed out on a lot of great last-gen games, I’m not sure there’s a better way to catch up with them. In my time using PS Now so far, I’ve had no technical problems streaming games, which is frankly something of a miracle in the current, fragile online gaming landscape. The system works as intended, and if the catalog of available games continues to expand (eventually to PS 1 and 2 games as well, Sony says), it will become a better and better value over time.
Does PS Now appeal to you more now that it has a subscription model?
But while that option is still there, Sony has listened to critics who were hoping for something closer to a Netflix model of game consumption. As such, they’ve just debuted a new subscription model for the service which will kick off in North America January 13th. It’s either $20 a month or $45 for three months, which are the only two packages so far in this experimental stage. That will grant players access to 100+ PS3 games, including some heavy hitters like Uncharted, BioShock Infinite, The Last of Us and Arkham Asylum.
I believe a hundred or so games available means that some titles will be left behind from the original PS Now set-up. The hard part of a subscription-based system was always going to be getting all the publishers on board. This is why we saw such variance in pricing, as it wasn’t Sony setting the numbers. But now they appear to have worked out a good enough deal with a proper amount of publishers in order to make this subscription happen.
The value for PS Now just wasn’t there before. The weird pricing system meant 90-day rentals often cost more than what you could buy the game for used, or sometimes even on sale in the PS Store itself, and the base four-hour rental period was laughably short. Now, with a flat flee as a blanket covering all these games, it seems a lot more plausible that PS Now could end up being a good deal for many.
At essentially $15 a month, if you play more than a handful of PS Now’s games in a given month, you’ve probably already made back your money. Under the old system, just a four-hour rental was anywhere from $3-5, with a week’s worth of play around double that. With that as a reference, the subscription is just going to be an unequivocally better deal 95% of the time, it seems.
A few of these games may be dirt cheap as used copies at this point, but the idea behind PS Now is that if you’re using the service, you probably don’t own a PS3 for whatever reason. Either you don’t have a console at all, meaning that PS Now could be a pretty great value on enabled devices, or you’ve moved on with your life and hawked your PS3 to partially pay for a PS4, but still would like access to older games you either miss playing or never played.
For me personally, PS Now probably still isn’t worth the money, given that I’ve already played the vast majority of the “major” titles in this list of 100+, and there are few games I’ve missed that would be worth paying either $20 or $45 to access. Like sure, maybe I never got around to the Grid or Overlord series, but it’s not enough of a nagging itch that I need to get a Now subscription to catch up. My current-gen backlog is long enough as is, and ironically, despite my previous complaints, individual rentals of specific games may be enough for me.
With that said, I won’t claim to speak for everyone, and I think PS Now is still a solid concept and is only made better by a subscription option. For players who have missed out on a lot of great last-gen games, I’m not sure there’s a better way to catch up with them. In my time using PS Now so far, I’ve had no technical problems streaming games, which is frankly something of a miracle in the current, fragile online gaming landscape. The system works as intended, and if the catalog of available games continues to expand (eventually to PS 1 and 2 games as well, Sony says), it will become a better and better value over time.
Does PS Now appeal to you more now that it has a subscription model?
#735
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^Good point if you have more than one system. I already acquired several PS3 games in the last 2 years for dirt cheap through Gamefly or Gamestop so I won't be needing this. I've tried the $1 Gamefly and they're delivery is just too slow and I'll usually play one or two games for a month or two so it doesn't justify the $15 monthly.
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^Good point if you have more than one system. I already acquired several PS3 games in the last 2 years for dirt cheap through Gamefly or Gamestop so I won't be needing this. I've tried the $1 Gamefly and they're delivery is just too slow and I'll usually play one or two games for a month or two so it doesn't justify the $15 monthly.
#737
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I joined the party last night! My friend got a ps4 and had been bugging me to get one but I wasn't in any Rush to go out and buy one. So he calls me up last week and tells me he'll pay for half the cost of the PS4 as an early bday present.
So I took him up on the offer.
My first complaint is how long it takes to get up and running. We got back to his place around 1130pm last night and didn't have a game playing until 330am. Downloading the 250mb system update over his 75/75 fios took about 30 minutes. Then downloading GTA V took forever, then installing it for fucks sake man! The out of box experience is terrible. I was hoping they'd fix the slowness of initial setup but it appears it's even worse than the PS3.
So I took him up on the offer.
My first complaint is how long it takes to get up and running. We got back to his place around 1130pm last night and didn't have a game playing until 330am. Downloading the 250mb system update over his 75/75 fios took about 30 minutes. Then downloading GTA V took forever, then installing it for fucks sake man! The out of box experience is terrible. I was hoping they'd fix the slowness of initial setup but it appears it's even worse than the PS3.
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This is neat...
Suspend feature for gaming?
Source: PS4's next update brings Suspend for games, 60fps Share Play
Suspend feature for gaming?
Source: PS4's next update brings Suspend for games, 60fps Share Play
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Yes yes yes!!! Bring all the features since I'm getting one later this year in time for Rock Band 4 and Metal Gear 5 The PP. I hope at e3 they announce the Slim with 4k. That will continue my streak of a Playstation being my first media player of a new format: PS2 DVD, PS3 BluRay, PS4 4k?
Oh I don't think there's an Uncharted 4 thread but it got pushed back to Spring '16. That's cool Batman will keep me busy for great storyline and action after Metal Gear.
Oh I don't think there's an Uncharted 4 thread but it got pushed back to Spring '16. That's cool Batman will keep me busy for great storyline and action after Metal Gear.
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Wait...Doomie...you have a PS4 finally? Or did you always have one? I thought you were on the PS3.
But, if you just recently scored the PS4, congrats! Even if there are no games.
But, if you just recently scored the PS4, congrats! Even if there are no games.
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Oh okay.
Didn't think you had a PS4 yet. But, you're not missing anything at the moment anyhow.
Didn't think you had a PS4 yet. But, you're not missing anything at the moment anyhow.
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I just find it odd how slow the games are coming out for the PS4...it's snail-like IMO.
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Ps4 can't play PS3 games right?
How is it as a expensive bluray player?
How is it as a expensive bluray player?
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It's not bad. But, I do have an annoying issue with the sound. For some reason (even on the PS3), any movie I play, I need to crank up the volume to hear anything...
It's like a giant notch quieter than what I get from my cable box. Go figure.
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Yeah, I believe mine is set to max. But, I'll check again tonight...I know I looked into it when the PS3 was the primary BR player...and just gave up and just got used to cranking up the volume on the soundbar.
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Hmm never had an issue with needing to crank up the volume.
Must be a thing
Must be a thing
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Yeah, it's connected via an optical cable though...so, HDMI or whatever. It's an older model...I've had it for 10+ years.
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I'll play around a bit more with my settings tonight but I think I'll hit a dead-end again...maybe my bar is just too old?
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Probably too old, dun be so cheep, do the right thing.. Furtee foe fiddy
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I thought there was . I know I saw the trailer for it somewhere. And it's really pushed back? Oh well, guess I'll be getting the PS4 next spring then.
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Hey guys I've got a question...
PS4s new pause/resume feature. My buddy has been talking about this a lot.
I was curious when he started talking about it and asked a few questions I thought were obvious. Main question being "how does that work with online gaming?"
He informed me that it would work with 90% of the ps4 titles including online games.
This to me didn't make sense. How can one player pause an online game being played by 15 other people from anywhere in the world? In my opinion... You can't.
I looked into it more and saw one game bloode something where people were saying it "obviously" won't work in online due to obvious online limitations. I assume this for all games that play online with other people that may not want to pause when you do.
Thoughts? Am I wrong? Will you be able to pause online gaming like a gta5 open lobby or destiny match made events?
PS4s new pause/resume feature. My buddy has been talking about this a lot.
I was curious when he started talking about it and asked a few questions I thought were obvious. Main question being "how does that work with online gaming?"
He informed me that it would work with 90% of the ps4 titles including online games.
This to me didn't make sense. How can one player pause an online game being played by 15 other people from anywhere in the world? In my opinion... You can't.
I looked into it more and saw one game bloode something where people were saying it "obviously" won't work in online due to obvious online limitations. I assume this for all games that play online with other people that may not want to pause when you do.
Thoughts? Am I wrong? Will you be able to pause online gaming like a gta5 open lobby or destiny match made events?
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It will not work in online games. It can't, obviously. If you do turn the console off during an online game, the game will kick you out of the lobby and return you to a menu screen.
This feature has been on the Xbox One since launch.
If say you wanted to pause your single player game and have to leave, ect., you'd simply turn off the console. When you come back and power it up, it will instantly resume where you left off. No waiting for loading screens or anything like that.
I also find it useful for boot up times. From a cold start, the Xbox One takes about 30 seconds or so to fully boot, with the sleep feature on, it comes on in about 5.
This feature has been on the Xbox One since launch.
If say you wanted to pause your single player game and have to leave, ect., you'd simply turn off the console. When you come back and power it up, it will instantly resume where you left off. No waiting for loading screens or anything like that.
I also find it useful for boot up times. From a cold start, the Xbox One takes about 30 seconds or so to fully boot, with the sleep feature on, it comes on in about 5.