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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 07:48 PM
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I think you have 30 days to watch it then once you start it expires after 24hrs. Don't blame MS it's the content providers rules that they have to follow. The same rules apply for renting movies from iTunes.
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
Don't blame MS it's the content providers rules that they have to follow. The same rules apply for renting movies from iTunes.
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 08:56 PM
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Fucking XBL. I bought a movie through zune, never even started to watch it and now it is expired. wtf. I thought it only expired 24 hours after you start it?
your assumption is correct..
unless the movie is started... it should not expire..

i've had one sitting there for weeks before hitting play.
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 09:20 PM
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Wrong it does expire. Again these aren't MS or Apple's rules but it's the same for both services. These rules are dictated by content providers.

Originally Posted by Apple
The iTunes Store movie and TV Show rental usage rules are as follows:

You have 30 days to begin watching the movie or TV rental after the download completes. You can start watching the movie or TV rental while it is still downloading.
Once you've started to watch the rental, you have 24 hours to finish watching the movie or 48 hours for TV rentals (even if you start watching before the download is complete). You can watch the rental as many times as you want within this 24 or 48-hour period.
The rental will expire when either the 30 day or 24-hour limit is reached for movies, or 48-hour limit is reached for TV rentals. Once the rental expires, the rental is automatically deleted. You must rent and download the movie or TV show again to view it after your rental has expired.
You can move the rental between devices as many times as you wish during the rental period. However, the movie can only be played on one device at a time. If you rent a movie or TV show on an iPhone, iPad1, iPod touch, or Apple TV1, it is not transferable to any other device and you must watch it on that device.
On your device, the time remaining for you to finish watching the movie appears near the movie title.
You can only play your rented movies or TV Shows on the computer you rented it from and only if it is authorized to play your iTunes Store purchases and rentals.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1415
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 09:31 PM
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Actually there is a difference between Apple and MS rules. On the Zune marketplace you only have 14 days to start watching it before it expires. Maybe the content providers wanted to tighten the rules even more after seeing the how the iTunes rental system was working. iTunes had video service before Zune did. I wonder if iTunes will go down to a 14 day expiration date in the future.

b. VOD Content.

Effective on payment of the required fees, we grant you a personal, non-exclusive, non-transferable, limited right and license, subject to the terms of this contract, to view and privately display in your territory for personal, non-commercial purposes only, either via an Xbox 360 console, a personal computer or a portable device, VOD content you obtain via the service. The initial license to each item of VOD content is limited in its term and duration to fourteen (14) days from the date and time of your order or twenty-four (24) hours from the start of its initial display and viewing, whichever occurs first, unless otherwise specified as being limited to different term at the time of purchase (the “VOD viewing time”). VOD content can only be displayed and viewed on the device you initially downloaded or streamed to; however, you may display and view VOD content downloaded to your personal computer on one portable device. Once you chose to display and view VOD content on your portable device downloaded from your personal computer, you cannot view such content on your personal computer. To stream VOD content you must be logged into the service. Upon the expiration of the VOD viewing time, you will no longer be able to view the VOD content without obtaining an additional license. Unless otherwise authorized in this contract, you may not copy or move the VOD content from its originally stored location.
http://www.zune.net/en-US/legal/termsofservice.htm

There's also a difference within the iTunes store. In the Germany, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand you have 48hrs to watch the video after you start playing it instead of just 24hrs in the US.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3497

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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 10:47 PM
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Ya. It's 14 days...had no idea I bought it that long ago. Still not happy about that rule. I just won't rent from there anymore.
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 10:58 PM
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Why rent it if you weren't going to watch it right then and there?
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
Why rent it if you weren't going to watch it right then and there?

I rented two right away with the plan to watch the second the next day. Something came up and I never got around to watching it. No reason I have to be forced to watch a rental. I can watch it at my leisure with netflix and if MS an itunes want my business, then they will change their rules. Since I know they could care less about my business, I will stick with netflix.
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
Wrong it does expire. Again these aren't MS or Apple's rules but it's the same for both services. These rules are dictated by content providers.
i meant within the 24 hours

of course you have a limit to have it sittin in Queue
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Rockstar21
i meant within the 24 hours

of course you have a limit to have it sittin in Queue
I'm glad this was elaborated on because I was planning on renting something for next year and I would have been pissed.
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 10:05 AM
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sho_nuff1997
I rented two right away with the plan to watch the second the next day. Something came up and I never got around to watching it. No reason I have to be forced to watch a rental. I can watch it at my leisure with netflix and if MS an itunes want my business, then they will change their rules. Since I know they could care less about my business, I will stick with netflix.
Again these aren't MS and Apple's rules, these are the rules dictated by the people that own the content. These are the same people that are now withholding dvd availability of new releases on Netflix by a month. You now have to wait a month to get a DVD on Netflix after it becomes available for purchase. This is because the content providers are afraid that netflix is eating into their DVD sales at $20 a pop so they made Netflix sign a deal that would delay the availability of these on Netflix DVDs by a month.
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 12:34 PM
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
Again these aren't MS and Apple's rules, these are the rules dictated by the people that own the content. These are the same people that are now withholding dvd availability of new releases on Netflix by a month. You now have to wait a month to get a DVD on Netflix after it becomes available for purchase. This is because the content providers are afraid that netflix is eating into their DVD sales at $20 a pop so they made Netflix sign a deal that would delay the availability of these on Netflix DVDs by a month.

Well, I still have to pay MS or Itunes for the rental. So not totally their fault, and we don't have a content provider thread for me to rant in.
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 10:22 PM
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Should I buy a new Xbox or try to get my old one fixed? I wanna play Undead Nightmare! I think mine is pretty much fried, it either freezes up on the video or I get a grey screen in half english/japanese saying there's an error.
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 10:30 PM
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the old one is just going to break again
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 11:43 PM
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Should I buy a new Xbox or try to get my old one fixed? I wanna play Undead Nightmare! I think mine is pretty much fried, it either freezes up on the video or I get a grey screen in half english/japanese saying there's an error.


Is it E74 error? If so, have M$ fix it for free and buy a new one. Then you'll have two.
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 03:06 PM
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Is it E74 error? If so, have M$ fix it for free and buy a new one. Then you'll have two.
Yea that's what it said at the bottom of the screen. Will they fix it even though it's not under warranty (I don't think)?



Edit: wtf it was totally not working for weeks, I just turned it on and it works now

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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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Nvm, games are freezing within a few minutes of start up. Sometimes it'll freeze during the boot logo, sometimes it'll play for a few minutes or it'll get to the home screen and then it'll go black.
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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If you go to the xbox support page and enter your serial, it will tell you if it's covered. 3 years is the coverage for the e74 error. Mine was 2 years 8 months when I sent it back.
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 08:50 PM
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Anyone else getting emails from Xbox Live?

I got an email titled - Renewal cancelled for XXXXXX Xbox360 Annual Gold Xbox Live Basic Subscription (49.99) US

and other another 3 hours later - Confirmation of renewal of Gold – 12 Month

Anyone else experiencing this?
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 11:59 PM
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What's the trick to getting my XBL account on two different xboxes? I have only been able to do it by recovering my account on each machine. Is there any other way?
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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 07:11 PM
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Thank you hundred of thousands XBL users who never play for getting on tonight and downloading the dashboard update that you'll probably never use..

You are making my xbox have seizures..
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 02:59 PM
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know a few people who have already bought their kinect, few waiting for them to be shipped..

im for sure grabbing one... cant wait to get a better feel for it and start playing with all the gadgets...

love new toys.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 07:41 AM
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Some peeps I know have been playing Dance Central. They love it.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 08:38 PM
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Surprised no one is talking about ESPN3 yet. Really good picture.
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 03:25 AM
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Anybody read this? Its LMAO!
http://www.destructoid.com/do-not-pl...-central-naked

Well from a forum post of a guy who took off his clothes during dance central because it was getting hot and kinect at the end took pics of him, lol. Well, his issue is that he does not know where the pics are stored and how to delete them...
http://www.dancecentral.com/forums/s...n-During-Dance

So moral of post, don't play kinect naked!
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 12:25 PM
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Surprised no one is talking about ESPN3 yet. Really good picture.
I'm loving it.. By far the coolest feature on xbox.

They really stepped it up with this update.

The dvr feature is great for looking at close plays
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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So my stupid xbox red rings on me, minutes later I have it apart, get it back together and it turns on.. get the system update and reboots and me and my wife are like wtf! .. the new start screen confused the hell out of us for a second there...

kind of a had to been there type moment but none the less.

btw Im thinking about the kinietic for my wife's xmas present
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 02:05 PM
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I'm loving it.. By far the coolest feature on xbox.

They really stepped it up with this update.

The dvr feature is great for looking at close plays
BTW, after all that arguing over Live I re-upped until July 2013.
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 02:06 PM
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Surprised no one is talking about ESPN3 yet. Really good picture.
how much does it cost?
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 02:08 PM
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Free with Gold sub. You can tell you aren't watching cable for a couple of reasons, but it's still stellar.
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well hot damn. will need to try it out.
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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BTW, after all that arguing over Live I re-upped until July 2013.
blah.. its hard to stay away from... even though they are bumping the price.

im enjoying the new features though.. soon to have kinect as well
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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Got in on a deal the day before prices jumped. Not the cheapest I've paid, but I could always cancel and add cheaper.
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they started offering the family gold package deal.
$99 for everyone in the household...

considering you could easily have 3-4 people using the xbox.. thats a damn good deal.

even roomates could take advantage of the package..
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 04:20 PM
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Anyone try out kinect yet? I know my dad wants to get it, but I'm kinda advising against it for now. Main reason, I read on engadgets review that you need to be 6-8 feet away from the camera and have no obstructions, coffee table. We have a coffee table and our living room is kinda small. So thats our main problem.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 07:39 AM
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I personally haven't but I've read on FB and Twitter people love it
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 07:56 AM
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JRhodes got his already...
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a little vid of just how kinect sends those sensor lights out..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7nRK...ayer_embedded#!
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