ttribe's German-Kimchi-Then-German-Then-Blow-Up-Engine-Then-Fix-It Journey Thread
12-05-2012, 04:30 PM
#1321
Engineer
Primarily because of how it interacts with the ECU. As I understand it, JB is basically fooling the ECU into believing that the pressures and temps are still stock. As a result, its much less drive-able on a daily basis (in terms of general smoothness, etc., the torque curve is more lumpy). Also, with ESS I'll have a tune that is customized to my car's existing software and how it interacts with my specific hardware. There are always minute variations, and this will better account for those. I'll still be able to swap the tunes with about a 20 minute turnaround just using my laptop and a cable.
I'm anticipating ~360HP and 400tq. I'll be doing pre-and post-dynos as well.
I'm anticipating ~360HP and 400tq. I'll be doing pre-and post-dynos as well.
12-05-2012, 05:02 PM
#1322
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Yeah, there's not much question I can probably get a little more power, at a slightly lower price, from another tune. However, I don't think I can get a smoother, safer, better adapted to daily use, tune than the one I'm getting from ESS. I think I'll have plenty of additional power, be virtually worry-free, and still have an eminently drivable car.
12-06-2012, 10:59 PM
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i would have done the cobb bc their tune doesnt lock your vin which means when you go back to stock you can still sell the cobb where as you cant with the ess...good luck tho!
12-07-2012, 08:07 AM
#1324
Three Wheelin'
Piggys have been around a long long time and have come a long way with how they fool the ecu with increased boost. I run the Procede and am fbo with meth for about 30k miles and this is my daily driver. Not trying to change your mind, it's nice to have a custom tune for the car but the word "custom" is used very loosely in the tuning industry.
Good luck, once you tune the car its going to be hard to go back. I know your M was a money pit but keep an eye on your valve gasket, you'll notice oil near the boost solenoids, right above the turbos. This is about a $800+ dealer job and is becoming more prevalent, just did mine a few weeks ago. Also, get ready for a walnut blasting, I did a diy video so you can see what it entails.
Good luck, once you tune the car its going to be hard to go back. I know your M was a money pit but keep an eye on your valve gasket, you'll notice oil near the boost solenoids, right above the turbos. This is about a $800+ dealer job and is becoming more prevalent, just did mine a few weeks ago. Also, get ready for a walnut blasting, I did a diy video so you can see what it entails.
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12-07-2012, 09:04 AM
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12-07-2012, 09:07 AM
#1326
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Piggys have been around a long long time and have come a long way with how they fool the ecu with increased boost. I run the Procede and am fbo with meth for about 30k miles and this is my daily driver. Not trying to change your mind, it's nice to have a custom tune for the car but the word "custom" is used very loosely in the tuning industry.
Good luck, once you tune the car its going to be hard to go back. I know your M was a money pit but keep an eye on your valve gasket, you'll notice oil near the boost solenoids, right above the turbos. This is about a $800+ dealer job and is becoming more prevalent, just did mine a few weeks ago. Also, get ready for a walnut blasting, I did a diy video so you can see what it entails.
Good luck, once you tune the car its going to be hard to go back. I know your M was a money pit but keep an eye on your valve gasket, you'll notice oil near the boost solenoids, right above the turbos. This is about a $800+ dealer job and is becoming more prevalent, just did mine a few weeks ago. Also, get ready for a walnut blasting, I did a diy video so you can see what it entails.
12-07-2012, 10:50 AM
#1327
Three Wheelin'
12-07-2012, 10:54 AM
#1328
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12-13-2012, 09:47 AM
#1329
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Original file was sent to Norway last night. 
12-13-2012, 10:20 AM
#1330
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12-13-2012, 10:29 AM
#1331
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I won't lie...if things go right, I may get rid of the FX and go sauerkraut in the next year or two.
5-Series, please.
Although, that new 4er.
5-Series, please.
Although, that new 4er.
12-13-2012, 10:31 AM
#1332
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That 4-series looks downright gorgeous.
12-13-2012, 10:31 AM
#1333
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12-13-2012, 10:43 AM
#1334
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12-13-2012, 11:04 AM
#1335
Engineer
12-13-2012, 11:24 AM
#1336
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12-13-2012, 11:26 AM
#1337
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535xi w/ juicebox 
12-13-2012, 11:29 AM
#1338
אני עומד עם ישראל
12-13-2012, 11:43 AM
#1339
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12-13-2012, 12:57 PM
#1340
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12-13-2012, 02:55 PM
#1342
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12-13-2012, 03:14 PM
#1343
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Just got word - the Stage 1 file is ready. Car goes in tomorrow at 9AM for upload and dyno testing. 
12-13-2012, 03:29 PM
#1345
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Well, it's a lot easier with the turbo charged engines. When I had my M5, really the only significant gains required the addition of a supercharger. Since that upgrade costs ~$16k on an E60 M5, I immediately ruled that one out.
12-13-2012, 04:01 PM
#1347
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Can push the 500HP V-10 over the 700 mark. It's pretty impressive.
12-13-2012, 04:34 PM
#1348
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Here you go: http://www.esstuning.com/products/S8...er-System.html
Can push the 500HP V-10 over the 700 mark. It's pretty impressive.
Can push the 500HP V-10 over the 700 mark. It's pretty impressive.
12-13-2012, 04:36 PM
#1349
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12-13-2012, 04:39 PM
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12-13-2012, 04:48 PM
#1353
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Not just the shortcomings of the engine / trans.. but from install, tune, meth, tune.. all that goes into boosting a NA engine, especially such a fragile exotic like the S85.. it will become a money pit quick.
12-13-2012, 04:50 PM
#1354
Whats up with RDX owners?
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The supercharger comes with meth????
12-13-2012, 04:52 PM
#1355
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12-13-2012, 05:16 PM
#1356
Whats up with RDX owners?
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That shit'll mess you up.
12-13-2012, 05:17 PM
#1357
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
only if you use pure crystal meth. 
12-13-2012, 06:31 PM
#1358
The sizzle in the Steak
12-13-2012, 06:40 PM
#1359
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12-13-2012, 06:41 PM
#1360
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Dont we all 