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Old Jul 21, 2020 | 07:36 PM
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That Volvo Polestar wagon is phenomenal
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Old Jul 25, 2020 | 10:02 PM
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Old Jul 25, 2020 | 10:10 PM
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Old Jul 25, 2020 | 10:21 PM
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The name is weird but I love the Subaru wagon there.
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Old Jul 25, 2020 | 10:51 PM
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Old Jul 25, 2020 | 10:55 PM
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That Levorg is new for 2020 (debuts next month, and it's the STI version.
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Old Jul 25, 2020 | 10:56 PM
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Old Jul 25, 2020 | 10:57 PM
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Old Jul 26, 2020 | 06:31 AM
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V60 vs A4 allroad

I have driven both. We were looking for a more "practical" car to be my wife Cindi's daily driver. The S5 has become increasingly difficult for her to get in and out of due to its ride height and the large seat bolsters on the sport seats. We were looking at sedans when she pointed at an SUV and said "What about something like that?" I told her no SUVs on my watch, but we can look at wagons. The Volvo was a cross country model. It was harder to get in and out of, even for me. The brakes seemed to take forever to stop the car, and the amount of work required to find thing things in the interface was frustrating. Also, as comfortable as the seats looked, they actually felt hard and uncomfortable. The A4 allroad was a much pleasanter driving experience, the interface was much easier to navigate, and IMO looks much better than the Volvo. There is a bit of lag from a stop, and the start/stop thing is kind of annoying to me (it can be manually turned off) but overall it rides and drives nice. That being said it is no S5 in regards to performance. But shelling out an additional 15 to 20K for an A6 allroad was not an option. We bought the Audi A4 allroad 2 weeks ago.

Our new 2020 allroad parked next to the last "new" car we purchased (2008 TL) almost exactly 12 years apart
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Old Jul 26, 2020 | 08:23 PM
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Nice job. The A4 is a good looking car. Now get the plastic in the wheel arches painted body color and you'll not be confused with us Outback drivers. Ha.
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Old Jul 27, 2020 | 06:26 AM
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Audi is a solid choice.
I just got into an S5.
I fucking love it. Nicely done @Oldsman71
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Old Jul 27, 2020 | 08:39 AM
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I wish Audi's leased better. The residual and money factor on them is terrible
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Old Jul 27, 2020 | 06:49 PM
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Interesting:

Genesis Shooting Brake?
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Old Jul 27, 2020 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmako
Neat...but, I'm still shallow to ever put that amount of coin into a Korean car.
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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 06:28 AM
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Now get the plastic in the wheel arches painted body color and you'll not be confused with us Outback drivers. Ha.
Yes, I would have preferred full body paint option. It was not available on cars this color (Terra Gray). My wife wanted this color, so we have to live with the plastic.
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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 06:36 AM
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Audi is a solid choice.
I just got into an S5.
I fucking love it. Nicely done
Congrats on the S5. What year and what color? S5s are a blast to drive. Some of the maintenance is a PITA due to the "over engineering" of these cars. (Probably all Audis are that way). I imagine I'll probably put our S5 on the market this fall, once we slow down at work.
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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 08:59 AM
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I was looking at the S5 Sportback before getting the V60, but what took it off the list was the rear seats. They’re quite small, and with a rear facing car seat the front passenger would have been way too close to the dash. Everything else about the car was great! It’s too bad we don’t get an S4 Avant here.
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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by fiatlux
I was looking at the S5 Sportback before getting the V60, but what took it off the list was the rear seats. They’re quite small, and with a rear facing car seat the front passenger would have been way too close to the dash. Everything else about the car was great! It’s too bad we don’t get an S4 Avant here.
How's the Polestar so far? We need more pics (or a build thread for it)
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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by fiatlux
I was looking at the S5 Sportback before getting the V60, but what took it off the list was the rear seats. They’re quite small, and with a rear facing car seat the front passenger would have been way too close to the dash. Everything else about the car was great! It’s too bad we don’t get an S4 Avant here.
Did the stealership loan you the car for a day or so to test out?

Before I bought the S5, I was almost but certain the A4 allroad was going to be my new vehicle...I never really paid attention to the S5 Sportback so when I saw it, I was so taken by how it looked that I started asking about it and in discussion with the sales guy and how I needed a car seat in the back for my kid, he said just take the demo for the weekend. We installed the kid seat, went around town, even picked up my Mom and had her get in and out...no issues. Sold.

Albeit, I'm ...so, if you're a hulking 6'+ gwai lo...well, I could see maybe why the S5 is too small.
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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
How's the Polestar so far? We need more pics (or a build thread for it)
So far so good, some minor quibbles (very minor) but no annoyances like I've had with my TLX thus far.

Ask an ye shall receive

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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Did the stealership loan you the car for a day or so to test out?

Before I bought the S5, I was almost but certain the A4 allroad was going to be my new vehicle...I never really paid attention to the S5 Sportback so when I saw it, I was so taken by how it looked that I started asking about it and in discussion with the sales guy and how I needed a car seat in the back for my kid, he said just take the demo for the weekend. We installed the kid seat, went around town, even picked up my Mom and had her get in and out...no issues. Sold.

Albeit, I'm ...so, if you're a hulking 6'+ gwai lo...well, I could see maybe why the S5 is too small.
No, I just brought a tape measure. I knew how much room would need to exist between the bottom of the rear seat back and top of the front seats, so I had my wife adjust the seat to what it would need to be to make that space. I suppose if she was under 5 feet and didn't mind sitting very upright it would have been OK...for reference it's a Cybex Aton M infant seat. It's already one of the more compact ones, as we had to get something smaller because the larger ones would not fit in the back of my wife's TLX (I have no idea how Acura managed to take a car that's so big and make the interior packaging in the back so horrible).

The S4 might actually have been a better fit because I think the rear legroom is slightly better, but I didn't bother trying because I wanted something with a liftgate, not a 3-box sedan. SQ5 would have definitely been better, but if I were in the market for something like that would have been far behind the X3 M40i and GLC43 (in that order).
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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 12:51 PM
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Such a lovely wagon.
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Old Jul 29, 2020 | 07:05 PM
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It's purty....... TIme to go
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Old Jul 29, 2020 | 08:33 PM
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Old Jul 29, 2020 | 08:49 PM
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 12:50 PM
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 02:22 PM
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Not a fan of the wheels .. kind of which the FMIC was a bit more stealthy.

But otherwise ... you don't gotta convince me.

BMW wagons
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 02:26 PM
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make urs like that... with different wheel and black FMIC

It is a better platform to spend $$ on than your S4

I cant imagine how it feels with performance of B58 and the driving feel of E46 ....
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 02:36 PM
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You shut your whore-ish mouth!

For real though .. BMW and boost is heavenly. A much more attainable / realistic goal is boosting an E36 M3 .. S52s can make a gingerly 500whp with just headstuds / tougher headgasket ... on a conservative tune with pump gas.

You still get that excellent chassis / weight distribution too
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 02:41 PM
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 03:19 PM
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You shut your whore-ish mouth!

For real though .. BMW and boost is heavenly. A much more attainable / realistic goal is boosting an E36 M3 .. S52s can make a gingerly 500whp with just headstuds / tougher headgasket ... on a conservative tune with pump gas.

You still get that excellent chassis / weight distribution too

well.. Do it... i think you have your S4 long enough... i havent seen you pulling engines lately., it is getting "boring"

They dont make cars like that anymore... E36 M3...
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 03:49 PM
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well.. Do it... i think you have your S4 long enough... i havent seen you pulling engines lately., it is getting "boring"

They dont make cars like that anymore... E36 M3...
100%. If CA wasn't such a smog nazi state, I would consider 2 cars boosted to irresponsible levels. In that case .. Texas seems alright

The B5 doesn't feel nimble / anything like the E46, but it has character .. that's for sure. Any car you've invested hundreds of hours into / quite literally has chunks of my skin / blood in it .. it's not exactly an easy car to get rid of.
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 05:13 PM
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 05:22 PM
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Out of all the E55/E63s, that gen is my favorite... The car was so elegant to look at and sounded like a Monster at the same time.
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 05:25 PM
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The One-Off BMW E46 M3 Touring


https://www.bmwblog.com/2016/09/28/o...46-m3-touring/


This "M3xi Touring" Is the Best of Everything BMW E46

M3 engine, manual transmission, all-wheel drive, wagon. It's the perfect combination of components to create the ultimate BMW.


https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...touring-wagon/
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 05:44 PM
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I am surprised no one said anything about the F8X M3 Wagon ....
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 06:47 PM
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That E46 M3 Touring =
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 06:50 PM
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I am surprised no one said anything about the F8X M3 Wagon ....
I posted about them a few pages back. Gorgeous things.
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 07:20 PM
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So, WYHI...?

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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 08:39 PM
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The wheels / tack on fenders and big rear spoiler. Not my style.
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